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You said that the Silver Edition is incompatable with the 83+ when it comes to "Archive" and "Unarchive"? My 83+ has those two commands, but they don't archive and unarchive programs, just variables (including lists, matrixes, pics, I'm assuming GDB's, etc.).

Did you mean that the S.E. can archive and unarchive programs or something else? And if so, can you use the "DelVar" command to delete programs also?

Thanks, I'll try to check on those plots. (Still not 100% clear though.)

Oh, I almost forgot to say; I haven't looked too hard, but I can't seem to find the CD for the calc to computer program. I know I've seen it before and I know that _I_ have not thrown it away, but I do have two semi-dumb brothers and ya never know.

BTW, if anyone wants to send me their TI-83+Silver Editon in the mail, that would be great. All you have to do is give a complete stranger your $100 calculator and I will PERSONALY give you my thanks and gratitude. I PROMISE!!!!! No seriously though, if you were to do that, I would like "not" send you a million E-mails. I would greatly appreciate it.
If you are still reading this, I want you to smack yourself in the face, then tell me that you did so I can laugh at you.

I meant that if you use the archieve/unarchieve command for anything, it will no longer be compatable with a regular ti-83 since it don't support that command. You may however still want to use it since it is the only way to take advantage of archieve space especially in a ti-83 se.

By the way, when i say regular ti-83, i mean one without the plus.
(basic games are compatable with the ti-83 and the ti-83 plus by default. Only the archieve command i think is not supported

OKAY, first of all, I would like to say that I am a total looser and this is how I am spending my Sunday.

With that said, can the Silver Edition come in different colors than that clear silver lookin' color? I would like the regular black cover. It would make it less likely to be stolen. People at my school aren't the nicest people in the world, in fact we're quite ghetto. They don't even know what RAM (Random Access Memmory) stands for. All they know is that they want more than anyone else. Would it be possible to take it apart and switch it with the case from the TI-83+? I don't care about warrenty or anything like that. Would it be possible (without destroying the calc) to do it? I know I've taken apart a different TI-83+ and it was nearly impossible to do so. The screws were messed up and some wierd octagonal lookin', doohicky. Yeah, that's right, I said it..."Doohicky". Watch' gonna' do 'bout it? Punk!!

Where did Silent Fury go lately? I'm starting to think that he might be dead, or unconcious, or ummm... yeah. I think that we are the only ones keeping this web page alive.

Je ne connais pas ou Silent Fury a habit. Je vous toutes detest!!!!

Yeah, I'm getting tired of typ

Well you can PAY to have the company change your case to your color of choice (not sure how much). I am pretty sure you can take it apart although i will have to check on that. It really shouldn't be a problem unless they completely encased the calculator without anyway of opening it which i doubt(hard to repair if they did that) so to the best of my knowledge, you most likely can do that but don't quote me on it.

I had the same idea to switch the case of a 83+SE that I found at school with the case off my 83+ so it wouldn't get stolen. A few days after the switch, my original 83+ with the new case did get stolen. The screws on the outside of the case were a little tricky to get off but a small flathead screwdriver worked. As for the inside I don't recall having any problem. I'm not very computer/calculator savvy and I managed to do it just fine. Just dont break anything.

Okay, I don't know why I just typed such a stupid title for this, but umm...Thanks for the info.

I left my calc at school (doh!) so I can't check about the whole plots thing. I gues I'll have to check tommorow. Hey, maybe I can consult my TI-83+ book and then give everyone who visits this web page a small tutorial type thing.

I still don't know where Silent Fury is. Maybe he went in for laser-eye surgury and got implants by mistake. Who knows?

And, does and one here speak French? That would be pretty cool. Je vous toutes detest!!! Je m'adore. Est-ce que je peux avoir des bon-bons? Je regrette, mais ma mere n'a pas notre zoo.

Quit w/ that French Moon-man gibberish.

I just wanted to know how many people are reading this? If you are a registred member of ticalc.org please reply to this so I can, for some dumb reason, know.

I know dabud15, that kim person, the guy who keeps answering my questions about the Silver Edition, Silent Fury (who hasen't shown for quite a while), and umm... well... that's about it.

SO REPLY TO THIS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or I will haunt you in your sleep.

ummmmm, that kim person and me are the same, i just didn't want to show my real name since it looks like a girl's name and i'm a boy.

Who ARE you?

In fact, this does relate due to the fact that this
is all that i need to know before I program some really
cool ASM games.
Anyway, could someone give me an example of how to display
an 8x8 sprite. I sorta know how, but It keeps thinking the 00011101 is binary for a number, so it displays text
instead of a line. So, if some1 is willing to help me please e-mail me. Thanks!

Gerhalt

P.S. My E-mail is tgrmtn@Nocharge.com

I dunno, but you might want to ask the other good people who visit ticalc.org everyday.

Ohhhh, I get it. You want someone to answer your message, (gotcha). Clear as day.

Yeeeaaahhh, I still don't know what you're talking about. In fact I don't have a clue as to why I am typing. If anyone could give me some sort of idea, that would be great...yeeeaahh.

Does anybody have any money that they don't want?

Yeah.
The German Mark.

I know very little about asm programming but you may have to place the numbers with the type at the end. Example: 00010012h, h meaning hex. Also make sure it's not in quotes. the code i think looks like .db 00000000h or .db %00000000, i believe these two mean the same. I may be somewhat off however.

oh yeah heres the symbols if you don't know them.
(placed after number to show what it is)
d = decimal, normal numbers
h = hexidecimal
b = binary

there is another way of showing the number type but since i'm a novice asm programmer, i can't remember them.

Just for the record:
In asm, all data is exactly the same to the processor. You could actually display "Hello world" as a sprite if you wanted to (but it would look like gibberish), or write a sprite to the homescreen as text (again, gibberish... Would probably appear as "a*sdfs$Aour6oawG$aweo8r" or something of a sort). It all depends on what you do with the data.

Prefixes:
$ - Hex
% - Binary
nothing - decimal

Okay, this one is not meant to be stupid.

The title of this is my question. I haven't found a way to do it on the 83+ but maybe on the Silver Edition. That would make my RPG so cool, you wouldn't have to archive and unarchive manualy. I know most of us here know how to do that, but the only purpose of making a game is to give it to other people. No one at my school would know how to. I would have to put on screen instructions or something and the player would not want to do that. I don't care if it even takes a long time to archive a 10k program, I would just put

:ClrHome
:Disp "Loading...","","Please Wait
:Archive prgm<programname1>
:Unarchive prgm<programname2>
:ClrHome
:prgm<programname2>

It would be easy, everyone knows how to handle a loading screen. Not everyone knows how to archive and unarchive.

Can someone please tell if there is a way to do so in either the TI-83 Plus or the TI-83 Plus Silver Edition?

yeah that command is so EASY to do. I use it all the time for my larger basic programs. The time for a 10k file isn't too bad (maybe like 5 to 30 secs). The command is located in the mem section when your in editing. (edit program, 2nd, +, archieve or unarchieve)
Please becareful of this use because basic has no real way of knowing if a program is already archieved, so an error message will show up if you try to archieve a proram already archieved or vise versa.

oh here's an example of your code.

...stuff before...
output 5,5,"loading..."(want the loading in the middle)
archieve program (done with previous program)
unarchieve program (getting ready)
run program (use return command in your program)
archieve program
...etc or end...

P.S. If you are really short of ram, you can even archieve/unarchieve the main program by making the program they start with with this (use return if this is done)

unarchieve program
run program
archieve program

P.S. Don't use that command to much unless you have too. It's not my favorite command to use for good reason. It's the slowest command by far and most of the time i find that i can often optimise a program enough to fit it in the alotted memory and just archieve the main program as a whole so other programs can be used. archieving and unarchieving even just small lists will lead to the dreaded collect garbage which slow down your program even more.

By the way, REMEMBER that a ti-83 plus and a ti-83 plus se are basically identical for basic programming (a slight thing to consider in asm though).

Oh i just read your title, (didn't took a good look at it last time), the answer is simple. You can archieve and unarchieve a program (not while it's running) from basic as you might assume from what i said earlier. Reread what i said somewhere above if you miss the part of the where to find archieve and unarchieve. Also make sure to read it's downside to the command.