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TI Keyboard: More Information Released
Posted by Eric on 16 June 2002, 08:40 GMT

TI has finally released new information on something that should have come out many years ago, the TI Keyboard. The keyboard, which runs on 3 AAA batteries and contains many nifty features such as compatibility with Microsoft Word, will be available in the fall.

 


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Detached Solutions
DarkSlasher117

Does anybody know what happened to Detached Solutions?

     17 June 2002, 04:17 GMT


Re: Detached Solutions
TI83andTI89Owner Account Info
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You really should read other posts first, because I'm sure if Michael Vincent answers this again, he'll go insane or something. They lost their domain, so they have to use detachedsolutions.com from now on. It will be up shortly if not already.

     17 June 2002, 04:29 GMT

Re: Re: Detached Solutions
Torael  Account Info

It's back up already, actually.

     17 June 2002, 05:42 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Detached Solutions
lord_nightrose Account Info
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(In other words, he lost the *domain name*, not the site itself.)

     17 June 2002, 16:48 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Detached Solutions
Michael Vincent  Account Info
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"He" referring to Andrew Magness...

     17 June 2002, 21:01 GMT


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lsvllhs15

PLAY MEGAMAN86. ITS COOL, YO.

     18 June 2002, 03:39 GMT


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no_one_2000_  Account Info
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NEVAH!

     23 June 2002, 19:59 GMT

Re: Re: Detached Solutions
Michael Vincent  Account Info
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I wish I had the capability to go insane, but unfortunately I don't since I already have :)

     17 June 2002, 06:03 GMT


Detached Solutions
benryves Account Info
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Hooray for Detached Solutions!
(Maybe ticalc.org should post a discussion like the one they had for void...)

     17 June 2002, 09:35 GMT

Re: Re: Detached Solutions
DarkSlasher117

Hehe, I was too lazy to READ them all. I just used find for all the forums and nothing with "detached" in it came up. So I decided just post it as a question. Can't read everything as a result of Finals.

     17 June 2002, 12:32 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Detached Solutions
rmohr02 Account Info
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Use a Google search--most searches provided by a site for itself pale in comparison to Google. Just put site:ticalc.org "detached solutions" in the search box.

     24 June 2002, 03:12 GMT


Re: Re: Detached Solutions
lsvllhs15

PLAY MEGAMAN86. ITS COOL, YO.

     17 June 2002, 22:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Detached Solutions
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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I already did.

     23 June 2002, 20:00 GMT

Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
lsvllhs15

i think the Voyage 200 should have applications that emulate z80 calculater on it like the 83+ or the 86. then you could play your favorite games for the z80 calculators on a Voyage 200

     17 June 2002, 04:30 GMT

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Chickendude  Account Info
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That'd be sweet!

     18 June 2002, 02:43 GMT


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RCTParRoThEaD_  Account Info
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Don't encourage him to say stuff. It's not cool, yo.

     18 June 2002, 05:36 GMT


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Chickendude  Account Info
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Encourage him when it's not about megaman 86!!!
good boy, lsvllhs15, you were almost on topic!

     18 June 2002, 14:19 GMT


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no_one_2000_  Account Info
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BWAHAHA!

     23 June 2002, 20:05 GMT


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nolekid  Account Info

I don't think that would be really practical. Considering the size of VTI, the total size of about 10 good asm programs (anything less would be impractical in its own right), and the total memory on the voyage 200...

you might as well just keep your z80 in your other pocket (if the v200 will fit inside one pocket).

     19 June 2002, 00:05 GMT

Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
lsvllhs15

yeah... I guess you're right. Its not like I was expecting it too happen anyway. But it would be cool...

     19 June 2002, 00:15 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
Chivo  Account Info

I don't think the 68k in the V200 probably would be able to emulate the Z80 at even 1/10th of full speed. But then you'd play fast Z80 games easily!

     19 June 2002, 01:58 GMT


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benryves Account Info
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How about an app for 68K calcs that take a z80 program and convert all the z80 instructions into 68K ones? Granted, it would be a *huge* job, but then the programs could be run... or have an external z80 (it has been done before- look at the BBC Micro! You could plug a z80 into a BBC Micro... click the 'Web Page' button for a picture!)

     19 June 2002, 12:58 GMT

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Chickendude  Account Info
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How 'bout a z80 app that converts 68k to z80!!! ok, so maybe that was a stupid idea...

     19 June 2002, 14:34 GMT


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Gergely Patai  Account Info
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When will people learn that assembly programs cannot be translated automatically to other platforms. You have to recode everything, an this process cannot be automated. That's what high level languages are for...

     19 June 2002, 15:27 GMT


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Chivo  Account Info
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I found a program that converts Z80 to 68k assembly automatically (see Web Page, above). Of course, it needs a fair amount of overhead for it to work, but it still might be an acceptable solution for a beginner assembly programmer, or whatever.

     19 June 2002, 16:40 GMT

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Gergely Patai  Account Info
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And what is the point? It takes much less effort to rewrite it a lot more efficiently in C than to correct the generated source...

     19 June 2002, 21:21 GMT

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Gergely Patai  Account Info
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You probably know, the real problem with the conversion comes from the fact that the hardware and the software context are quite different between the two CPU lines of calcs. I'd be curious to see a fast solution to this. :)

     19 June 2002, 21:25 GMT


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Chivo  Account Info

I know you're all correct, but I just wanted to show that there IS a program that converts Z80 to 68k. I, too, would (re)write a program in C if I wanted to. That's all.

     19 June 2002, 23:03 GMT


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Gergely Patai  Account Info
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Of course, such a conversion is not too complicated (it would be interesting to see it working in the other direction though). It would be just as easy to write a Z80->x86 converter... Although it would choke on SMC, just like this one does.

     20 June 2002, 15:50 GMT


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no_one_2000_  Account Info
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I still think someone should make an on-calc compiler. That way, in class you could make assembly progs!

     23 June 2002, 20:07 GMT

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rmohr02 Account Info
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See link.

     24 June 2002, 03:17 GMT


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no_one_2000_  Account Info
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WOW that's cool!

     24 June 2002, 19:31 GMT


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rmohr02 Account Info
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Ditto.

     24 June 2002, 03:18 GMT


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no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Kay, I'm clicking on it right now *click*

     24 June 2002, 19:31 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
Benjamin Moody  Account Info

VTI is a computer program, with Windows overhead, GUI debugger, bells and whistles galore... If someone was to write a z80 emulator for a 68k calculator, it would be much, much less complex, and therefore much smaller.

     20 June 2002, 18:21 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
nolekid  Account Info

I was using VTI as an example, as it is the most popular emulator (also the most popular program period).

     21 June 2002, 00:01 GMT

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