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TI Keyboard: More Information Released
Posted by Eric on 16 June 2002, 08:40 GMT

TI has finally released new information on something that should have come out many years ago, the TI Keyboard. The keyboard, which runs on 3 AAA batteries and contains many nifty features such as compatibility with Microsoft Word, will be available in the fall.

 


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Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
rob.squared  Account Info
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I still think that this is kind of sad. While it would be interesting if an average person did it for novelty purposes; TI should realize that there's really not that big of a market for it.

What's next? The TI-Lightsaber? or is that sabre, I can never remember.

     16 June 2002, 14:44 GMT

Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
ac

No, I think that I will use this a lot. There will be a "large" market for this (Everyone who uses this site ;)

     16 June 2002, 15:06 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
Chickendude  Account Info
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I'll definitely get one (maybe another for my sister)

     16 June 2002, 15:48 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Aaaaahhhhhhhhh...

     22 June 2002, 00:22 GMT


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no_one_2000_  Account Info
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I can't remember why I posted that now. :)

     23 June 2002, 02:49 GMT


Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
rob.squared  Account Info
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I'd like to know why my threads always die a quick painful death.

     17 June 2002, 20:44 GMT

Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
lsvllhs15

PLAY MEGAMAN86. ITS COOL, YO.

     17 June 2002, 22:58 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
rob.squared  Account Info
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Shut the fuc|< up before I snap you in two!

I'd rather have my threads die than be resurrected by idiots.

     18 June 2002, 07:19 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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no

     22 June 2002, 00:22 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Actually, I just downloaded it, JUST FOR YOU

     23 June 2002, 19:43 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
Chickendude  Account Info
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I think that this is a great idea. (I have an 83+/se AND an 89 :)
They should have done this a while ago! Now, all we need is a tokenizing program so we can type on the homescreen! yippee!!

     18 June 2002, 02:36 GMT

Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
lsvllhs15

I thinnk they should build in speakers to the keyboard so there can be more of a use for sound programs

     16 June 2002, 15:40 GMT

Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
Torael  Account Info

WHY the heck does it have support for the 92+? They've already GOT keyboards - granted, they're small and kind of clumsy, but why not do it for the 86 or something? (I've got an 83+, so I don't REALLY care, but...*shrugs*)

     16 June 2002, 18:22 GMT

Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
343GuiltySpark  Account Info
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Well I care!
Stupid TI ... it's like they're trying to kill off the non-Flash calculators (essentially the 86 since the other ones aren't produced anymore). And what would that leave us? The 83 series (which isn't all that great), the 89 (which is banned in most math classes) and then the 92+ and Voyage 200 (which would be banned in almost EVERYTHING).

     16 June 2002, 20:31 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
nolekid  Account Info

yeah. I don't know why they haven't discontinued the 86 yet anyways. I said this a few weeks ago, but I'll say it again: TI is missing out on a lot of profit by killing the 86. If they just add a little bit (maybe like 100k) flash to it, they could have the perfect advertising setup. "The 89/voyage 200, the 'big boss' of the calculators that can do anything. The 83+, the one that doesn't have much to confuse you and is perfect for lower level math classes. Right in the middle, the 86, with higher math capabilities but still behind the 89."

     16 June 2002, 21:22 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
molybdenum  Account Info

We need an 86+

     16 June 2002, 22:24 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
TheCalcGenius  Account Info

PARADE! to petition TI to create an 86+ and make TI-Keyboard support for the non-flash calculators! Especially the 86!

     16 June 2002, 22:41 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
garyanddepleatedteamup  Account Info
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http://www.petitiononline.com /ti86flsh/petition.html

THEIR'S YOUR PETITION

     17 June 2002, 01:20 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
TheCalcGenius  Account Info

7TH SIGNATURE! PARADE!

     17 June 2002, 05:25 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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PARADE!

     26 June 2002, 01:14 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
343GuiltySpark  Account Info
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PARADE! to petition TI to create an 86+ and make TI-Keyboard support for the non-flash calculators! Especially the 86!

     17 June 2002, 01:22 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
garyanddepleatedteamup  Account Info

http://www.petitiononline.com /ti86flsh/petition.html

SIGN THE PETITION
THE TI-86 NEEDS YOUR HELP

     17 June 2002, 01:30 GMT


PETITION! to make a TI-86 Plus
RCTParRoThEaD_  Account Info
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PETITION! to make a TI-86 Plus! PARADE!

     17 June 2002, 02:11 GMT


Re: PETITION! to make a TI-86 Plus
benryves Account Info
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It doesn't really affect me- (my 83+ already has a 160k ROM), and I have never used (or even seen) an 86, but I reckon that my calc would be pretty useless (for all those handy programs I have) without the Flash.

It isn't that you don't have enough space on the calc already (96k is huge for RAM!), but if a ROM was added you could install apps- these are very useful in improving on the functionality of the calculator.

The only difference between the 83 and the 86 that I can see are the memory difference, the screen size and the OS. Surely an OS upgrade to support a ROM (like the OS upgrade from 83 to 83+) would not be too tricky? Sure, the internal design would have to change a bit too, but to offer a decent calculator at a more modest price than the 200 or the 89 would no doubt get TI a profit?

So I say- make an 86+ TI!

     17 June 2002, 12:11 GMT

Re: Re: PETITION! to make a TI-86 Plus
shakey_snake  Account Info
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they wont make it, there is no market for it. the 73 bumped the 83+ into the 86 market, and the teacher friendly calc won out, the 83+. TI wont make 2 calcs that compete against each other.

     17 June 2002, 18:32 GMT

Re: Re: Re: PETITION! to make a TI-86 Plus
molybdenum  Account Info

change the rom slightly, to make it switchable between 86 and 83 style menus, perhaps

     17 June 2002, 22:23 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: PETITION! to make a TI-86 Plus
lsvllhs15

PLAY MEGAMAN86. ITS COOL, YO.

     17 June 2002, 22:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: PETITION! to make a TI-86 Plus
nolekid  Account Info

If that's true, then why are GAP and Old Navy (which is owned by gap) so similiar? If you can get two of your own products competing, that's great!!!

     18 June 2002, 23:42 GMT


Re: Re: PETITION! to make a TI-86 Plus
343GuiltySpark  Account Info
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There are other differences. The 86 is a hell of a lot better function wise. It has a built-in polynomial root finder, simultaneous equation solver, and calculus functions. Also, it can actually type in lower case!! WITHOUT the use of 3rd party programs!!

     18 June 2002, 03:53 GMT


Re: Re: Re: PETITION! to make a TI-86 Plus
benryves Account Info
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1) Built in Polynomial root finder.
You can get a Flash app to do that for you (OK, not built in, but still...

2) Simultaneous equation solver.
Simultaneous equations are easy enough to do anyway.

3) Lowercase.
Oh no, my 160k Flash has a 21 byte program in it to enable lowercase (scrabbling noises as I hurry to delete this useless thing that takes up *far* to much memory).

TI-83 Plusses (?) are not better than 86s (apart from the Flash), but what they lack can be added on with extra software, such as Symbolic.

     18 June 2002, 09:20 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: PETITION! to make a TI-86 Plus
Chickendude  Account Info
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Also, about the lower case: In a way, I coinsider the lowercase a function of my calculator because I consider MirageOS a part of my calculator, it rarely (if ever) leaves...

     18 June 2002, 14:08 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PETITION! to make a TI-86 Plus
benryves Account Info
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Yes, I suppose so-
I only have to occasionally reinstall MirageOS (such as when OmniCalc screws the Flash (it does quite often!). There are a few problems with MirageOS though- like if you move a program to a new folder, then clear the RAM, it moves back- you have to move the program, run it from the new folder and then it will stay in the same place after a RAM clear.

     18 June 2002, 14:26 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PETITION! to make a TI-86 Plus
343GuiltySpark  Account Info
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Well ... users of the 83+ still have to go through the hassle of sending that extra software ...

     18 June 2002, 22:54 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PETITION! to make a TI-86 Plus
nolekid  Account Info

also, 99% (or is it 100%?) of 86 asm games are nostub, while there are few nostub for any other calc except the 89, which is still mostly kerneled.

     18 June 2002, 23:44 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PETITION! to make a TI-86 Plus
esweecoo  Account Info
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nostub means that you dont need anything else besides the program, right?

     19 June 2002, 05:42 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PETITION! to make a TI-86 Plus
343GuiltySpark  Account Info
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It means you don't need to run a program from a certain shell ... you can just run it from the homescreen.

     19 June 2002, 06:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PETITION! to make a TI-86 Plus
Chickendude  Account Info
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I think it's easier just to run it from a shell, but that's just my opionion.

     19 June 2002, 14:26 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PETITION! to make a TI-86 Plus
Chivo  Account Info

You CAN run most assembly programs from a shell on the TI-86, but you don't NEED the shell to run it. In fact, I've even run a shell within another shell, just to see if I can, and it worked fine.

     19 June 2002, 16:34 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PETITION! to make a TI-86 Plus
benryves Account Info
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Yes, I did that-
Run TSE from within MirageOS, then ION from withing TSE... (not IONEMU, *real* ION)- it worked OK for small games (it couldn't run Mario)

     20 June 2002, 12:22 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PETITION! to make a TI-86 Plus
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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I never tried that! I thought the calc would crash...

     23 June 2002, 02:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PETITION! to make a TI-86 Plus
Chickendude  Account Info
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You have an 83+? And to play games on your 82, don't you have to send a backup of your calc with the desired shell (preventing you from having two shells)?

     23 June 2002, 13:08 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PETITION! to make a TI-86 Plus
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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No, I don't have an 83+, but I've used them. And yes, on the 82, you have to send a backup to the calculator. :( I think that's cool on the 83 how you can type Send(9prgmPOOP and it will run it as an assembly program.

     23 June 2002, 19:45 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PETITION! to make a TI-86 Plus
rmohr02 Account Info
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For the bigger games you'd start running out of RAM.

     26 June 2002, 03:09 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PETITION! to make a TI-86 Plus
rmohr02 Account Info
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I did find one 86 game that claimed it wasn't nostub, but I can't anymore. Also, I never played it to find out.

     26 June 2002, 03:11 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
BullFrog  Account Info
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TI's page on the 86 (link) says that the 86 has 128K of RAM and 96K of user-available mem. What's the user-available? On all the 86s I've handled there's only been the 100K or so when I look at the mem screen. And they've been pretty new ones, too.

     16 June 2002, 22:30 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
Michael Vincent  Account Info
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96K user-available means RAM you can use....The operating system makes use of the other 32KB...Thus 128 total.

     16 June 2002, 22:51 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
BullFrog  Account Info
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Thanks!

     16 June 2002, 23:01 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
343GuiltySpark  Account Info
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Isn't 16K of the other 32K actually unused? I believe that Kirk Meyer's Pterodactyl program allows you to access that unused memory, although it won't work with most ASM programs ...

     17 June 2002, 01:24 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
Michael Vincent  Account Info
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Well almost 16K...there are a few things in there, but basically yes.

     17 June 2002, 03:11 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
lsvllhs15

PLAY MEGAMAN86. ITS COOL, YO.

     17 June 2002, 22:56 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Fermez la bouche, tu moron stupide!

     24 June 2002, 19:25 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
shakey_snake  Account Info
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the 73 is filling the lower platform specs and the 83(+(se)) is taking the middle pier. my guess is that that is the way teachers want it. It's the 73 that is you 86'ers problems not the 83(+). Dont you see, its like calculator natural selection, and teachers are the enviornment.

     17 June 2002, 16:15 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
343GuiltySpark  Account Info
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If it's natural selection, I don't think I want to know what it says about the teachers. The 83+ is more user-friendly (ie, it's for dumb people. Sorry to all those smart users out there, but it's true). But the 86 has more features and isn't really that user-unfriendly. So -- the teachers are choosing the calculator that is "more" user-friendly over the one that is actually better for math?
Of course, I do realize that the 83+ is more for lower math, but the 86 should have a place in higher math, instead of the 83+ taking its place there also.

     18 June 2002, 04:01 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
shakey_snake  Account Info
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"So -- the teachers are choosing the calculator that is "more" user-friendly over the one that is actually better for math?"

Yes, yes they are. It graphs, and has the stuff to take the place of looking up stuff on tables, and it's cheaper, and can more flexiblly respond to teachers demands i.e. Ti created Flash APPs.

     18 June 2002, 05:10 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
Torael  Account Info

That's what I was going to point out. Someone (above) pointed out that the 86 has other features built in over the 83+ like simultaneous equation solver and polynomial root solver and stuff. Check TI's online store, they made apps for the 83+ to do that. Tells me that teachers and others called for such things because the 83+ gets used more. Because of its Flash RAM, its more customizable.

     18 June 2002, 07:39 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
343GuiltySpark  Account Info
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What you say about customization is true ... but in order to do that, you guys have to use your precious Flash ROM. Now, if TI were to make an 86+, then it would be even better than the 83+. Customizable and already has a lot of built-in features.

     18 June 2002, 22:57 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
Chickendude  Account Info
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My flashROM isn't so precious on my SE (it never runs out!)

     19 June 2002, 14:27 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
Torael  Account Info

no KIDDING!!!!! I have (the equivilant) of about 30 normal 16k apps on my SE. And loads of other programs - games, utilities, etc. I've still got about 781k left (.78mb) So no, its not really "precious" archive space - I'd never fill it up unless I loaded everything from the archives onto my calc - which I wouldn't.

     20 June 2002, 23:29 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
Chickendude  Account Info
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I loaded the entire ion archives, and my FlashROM didn't run out (I didn't have much RAM, though...)

     23 June 2002, 13:10 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
shakey_snake  Account Info
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you missed the point, ti already has the teachers hooked on the 82 series, so the 85 series will be destroyed. Anyways, engineers dont need flash rom, and the 83 is cheeper.
the only people who would buy an 86+ would be the people who come to this site. now compare the 83 people at your school and on this site to all the 86ers you know, there aren't enough people to buy an 86+

     22 June 2002, 15:49 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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You're right. All the different types of calculators I've seen in schools are TI-73, TI-82, TI-83, and TI-83+.

     23 June 2002, 02:57 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
Chickendude  Account Info
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what abpout 89/92+'s?
At my middle school we had 92 plusses(?) with the geometers sketchpad app!
Also, there are many people out there whoo don't get an 86 because there is no FlashROM.

     23 June 2002, 13:12 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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That's what the petition thing is for! TI-86+! Though, I doubt it will work. :( I wonder if they'd listen to a PARADE PETITON!

     23 June 2002, 19:47 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
garyanddepleatedteamup  Account Info

if my petitions worked for microsoft and msnbc the will work for ti

     24 June 2002, 17:23 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Really? What petitions did you make to them?

     24 June 2002, 19:26 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
rmohr02 Account Info
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See link for M$'s response to a petition about their WebTV service's poor quality.

     26 June 2002, 03:15 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
rmohr02 Account Info
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And a response from CNN to a petition.

     26 June 2002, 03:16 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
rmohr02 Account Info
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And see this link for links to all of them.

     26 June 2002, 03:19 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
lord_nightrose Account Info
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The only time I've been banned from using a TI-89 is when I've been banned from using *any* calculator whatsoever. You're (sic) teachers are too uptight.

     16 June 2002, 22:26 GMT

Off Topic : Sic
Nick Johnston  Account Info
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The new poll should be "Do you know what (sic) means." I bet very few people do.

     16 June 2002, 23:28 GMT

Re: the 86
ravage485  Account Info
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wow first off topic post period. NICE. Anywho, I think it is about high time for TI to be rid of the 86, its like the middle man of graphing calculators (pointless and resource consuming). If you shop around, you can get an 89 for the same price as an 86. Not providing support for the keyboard is the first vital step to cutting it off. Whoever said the 89 is banned in most math classes must be in some kind of catholic whipping school or something, because Ive used mine all the way through high school without static (GO SENIORS :). I now await the flams of blindly devoted 86ers....

     17 June 2002, 00:34 GMT

Re: Re: the 86
Torael  Account Info

I dunno about other places, but the reason the 89/92/92+ are banned from math classes (well, not the classes, just the tests...) is because of some of the special functions available for algebra and whatnot.

     17 June 2002, 01:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: the 86
garyanddepleatedteamup  Account Info

http://www.petitiononline.com /ti86flsh/petition.html

     17 June 2002, 01:21 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: the 86
lsvllhs15

PLAY MEGAMAN86. ITS COOL, YO.

     17 June 2002, 22:56 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: the 86
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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I'm going to fart on you.

     24 June 2002, 19:26 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: the 86
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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You have a lot of petitions!

     23 June 2002, 02:59 GMT

Re: Re: the 86
343GuiltySpark  Account Info
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Just to let you know, the 86 isn't all that pointless and resource-consuming. It is a very good calculator. Now, if you ask me, you're confusing the 83+/SE with the 86. The 83+/SE is the pointless and resource-consuming calculator. And, the 89 usually isn't allowed because it can express answers in exact form (ie, radicals instead of decimals).

     17 June 2002, 01:27 GMT

Re: Re: Re: the 86
Torael  Account Info

how dare you dis the 83+ SE!!!!!!!!!!!

okay, seriously......how is the 83+SE a "pointless and resource-consuming calculator."?

BTW, I personally have no opinion one way or the other on the 86, except for the fact that I think it SUX because there are more levels available for its version of Super Mario Brothers =( I suppose thats cuz that version has been around longer though.....

     17 June 2002, 05:41 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: the 86
343GuiltySpark  Account Info
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Maybe not the SE ... I do have a healthy respect for it's unhealthy amount of memory.

     18 June 2002, 04:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: the 86
Torael  Account Info

"unhealthy" amount? LOL! I guess it does have quite a bit...not that I'm complaining. Besides, aren't there palms that have like 8mb of ram? I'd call THAT excessive.....but nonetheless, wouldn't mind having that much in my calc ;)

     18 June 2002, 07:41 GMT


Re: Re: Re: the 86
ravage485  Account Info
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The 83+/SE is not pointless because it is the bottome of the line, for people who are just looking for a decent calc. The 89 is the top of the line without going to qwerty, for those who want... well top of the line. The 86 is just kinda there, no one wants it and no one cares... I may point out that only 8% of ti's calc sales are 86....

     17 June 2002, 17:49 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: the 86
lsvllhs15

PLAY MEGAMAN86. ITS COOL, YO.

     17 June 2002, 22:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: the 86
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Okay, okay, fine.

     23 June 2002, 03:00 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: the 86
343GuiltySpark  Account Info
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Maybe if you look at it from a certain perspective.
Then again, the 86 has a lot more features than the 83+ and is only about $10 more. But, of course, most people are dumb (why else would they go for the 83+?) and just buy the cheaper calc.

     18 June 2002, 04:05 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: the 86
Chickendude  Account Info
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Ok, here's what I think: Schools either use an 83, 83+, or an 89. nowhere in there do they use an 86. If teachers/schools started using the 86's more,they'd probably become more popular (because they would be more supported).
Well anyways, that's just my opinion.

     18 June 2002, 14:13 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: the 86
esweecoo  Account Info
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82 for me, though there thinking about 83s

     19 June 2002, 05:46 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: the 86
Chickendude  Account Info
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yeah, my school first started with 82's, but the next year they switched to 83/+'s

     19 June 2002, 14:29 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: the 86
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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My old school still has 82s, but now also has 73s.

     23 June 2002, 19:48 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: the 86
wilson ng  Account Info
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Damn, i got ripped off :P my stupid ass AP CALCULUS teacher told our whole class to buy a 86!!!!! What a freaking rip off!!!!!I should have gotten a 89....I didn't even know there was such a thing as flash rom until i got my graphlink and all my friends asked me for games!!! Only a few people owned 82, 83s and 89 in my calc class.

Who said that graphing calculators are not allowed in higher math classes? As far as i know, you can consider calculus as a higher math class!!! I know a lot of people in college that still use their graphing calculators in calculus 1 and 2!!!! By the way, we could use our calculators most of the time in AP Calculus which requires you to use a graphing calulator!!!!! When i mean AP Calculus, it is the same thing as calculus 1 and 2 together.

For last year's AP Calculus class in my high school, nearly the whole class, like 30 out of 35, passed the AB or BC calculus exam with a three or higher :P

     20 June 2002, 00:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: the 86
rmohr02 Account Info
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At my school there was (and is) only one calculus, and the teacher isn't certified by the College Board to teach AP Calculus--he doesn't want to have to pay for it and we don't have a teacher's union to pay for him. However, he actually covered more than what was in the AB test.

Also, I assume you mean the year before last because scores aren't out yet this year.

I have an 86, but I used an 89 the whole year. I still did the work myself, but I checked myself with my calculator. But once you have an 89, you realize how easy it would have been to check yourself with an 86 or 83 too. It just wouldn't have been as pretty.

     26 June 2002, 03:28 GMT


Re: Re: the 86
nolekid  Account Info

not that anyone cares about my opinion but....

I think the "first vital step for cutting" off the 86 was when they came out with V200 and the SE in the last two years when there were already flash calcs in those series but not in the 85 series. The keyboard is just the next step.

PREDICTION: by this time next year, the 86 will be discontinued.

     18 June 2002, 23:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: the 86
ravage485  Account Info
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your right. i hadnt even thought of that. thanx

     21 June 2002, 20:29 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: the 86
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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I think they should continue it. More people have one than they think.

     23 June 2002, 03:02 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: the 86
Chickendude  Account Info
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or want one.

     23 June 2002, 13:14 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: the 86
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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I would get one, but just for the games. The TI-89/92 series pretty much covers all you'll need as a math calculator.

     23 June 2002, 19:49 GMT


Re: Off Topic : Sic
abcd

It means you purposely made a grammatical error. DUH!

     18 June 2002, 00:34 GMT


Re: Re: Off Topic : Sic
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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WHO are YOU?

     24 June 2002, 19:26 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
343GuiltySpark  Account Info
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Maybe. But the reason they ban it is because it can give answers in exact form. So, by banning it, they want to see if you can actually solve the problem, rather than using the calculator to do it for you. And, it's actually effective.

     17 June 2002, 01:28 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
rmohr02 Account Info
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You have to do the work anyway with most teachers.

     19 June 2002, 23:17 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Someone should make a program that solves an equation and DOES THE WORK for you! That would be so cool!

     23 June 2002, 03:03 GMT

Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
Brett Simmers  Account Info

It is supporting the 92+ because it's supporting the 89, and the 92+ is almost the exact same thing as the 89. Anything that is done on the 89 is very easy to port to 92+; in many (most?) cases things don't require any changes at all.

     17 June 2002, 00:34 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
lsvllhs15

PLAY MEGAMAN86. ITS COOL, YO.

     17 June 2002, 22:56 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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WHO ARE YOU?

     23 June 2002, 03:03 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
lsvllhs15

PLAY MEGAMAN86. ITS COOL, YO.

     17 June 2002, 22:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Are you Cullen Sauls? He wrote that game.

Actually, it looks pretty cool.

     23 June 2002, 03:11 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
343GuiltySpark  Account Info
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I would hope he isn't! Besides, I don't think game authors would advertise their games THAT much! (Ok, Kerm Martian did with Unreal Tournament, but not that much) Speaking of Unreal Tournament, I'd better get back to porting it ...

     23 June 2002, 03:50 GMT

Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
lord_nightrose Account Info
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FINALLY you post something other than PLAY MEGAMAN86. ITS COOL, YO!

     19 June 2002, 21:36 GMT


Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Actually, I was thinking of something on the same line as that....

All my headphones don't have the right end on them, and none fit in my calculator, isn't that how you're supposed to listen to the sound? (The AM radio thing is hard to pick up)

     23 June 2002, 02:51 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
Necrosis Account Info
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It requires that you splice a TI link cable. I made headphones for my calc(s) that way. It was pretty lame, and it sounds like crap, but the geek factor was pretty high.

     24 June 2002, 01:24 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Keyboard: More Information Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Do you know of any website that shows you how to do that?

     24 June 2002, 19:27 GMT

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