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ticalc.org is 20 years old!
Posted by the ticalc.org staff on 21 June 2016, 21:42 GMT

ticalc.org is 20 years old today! All of us involved with the site would like to thank all of you for creating and sharing and learning with us.

Several of us involved with the site over the years have shared their own reflections on ticalc.org below including (in alphabetical order):

Help us celebrate by sharing what ticalc.org has meant to you in the comments!

Chris Dornfeld, founding staff member:

It's funny to think back to 1996, the age of dial-up Internet, when coding wasn't cool and building even a modest website was a tricky and usually expensive undertaking. It feels like there's no topic, no matter how esoteric, that hasn't been fully explored and explained on today's web. But 20 years ago, with the right timing, a high schooler with a casual grasp of HTML and Photoshop could build a simple website that filled a need for a certain corner of the growing online population.

I'm grateful for Isaac's vision in bringing together a handful of scrappy sites like mine and still awed by Magnus, Henrik, and the dozens of other talented technical minds who have made simple devices do the amazing things that have been worth chronicling for the past two decades. The opportunity to help build and operate a high-traffic, bootstrapped, volunteer-based project with such a smart, diverse, and multinational team is a unique experience that has served me in ways I can't fully appreciate.

Multiple generations of young people, including me, have gotten their start in programming (or at least a break from boredom in math class) thanks to ticalc.org, and that's something special. I feel privileged to have played a role in its history and proud that the project has played a part in my own.

Travis Evans, archivist:

I got into TI calculators and programming quite young, around 1994 when I was barely 12 or so. It wasn't until years later later (1999 or so) that I discovered sites like ticalc.org during borrowed time (such as rare free days in computer classes in high school,) and it was many more years before I had my own Internet access and an actual account.

Before then, I always dreamed of being active in this community, and it was exciting to finally be able to do so. I never actually anticipated being a staff member of the site, though. The opportunity just kind of found me, I guess you could say, during that fateful [File Archiver] hiring run. I just started thinking about it and realized that I could really help the site out for a long time. I thought long and hard about it and decided to go for it, despite not quite being 100% confident I knew what I was getting myself into. Plus, I have to admit it: I was always curious about the behind-the-scenes of this site, and finding out in itself would be icing on the cake. ;-)

As it turns out, I never regretted it at all. It's been really cool to go from being some mysterious guy no one really heard of popping up out of nowhere to someone who could make a difference where the site sorely needed it, even if in a rather niche corner of the Web. I always wanted to be part of something that meant something to me but never seemed to be able to or have an opportunity. Being involved here gave me a chance to fill that desire. I think it's also helped me a bit to become a bit more sociable, at least in writing online and in IRC. It's still something that's never felt comfortable and natural to me in-person and even in phone exchanges, but it hasn't stopped me from wanting to meet others in the community [in real life], like I've managed to do with Astrid. Normally, I tend not to seek out social situations and prefer to be by myself, but this has helped me to find a way to socialize with people with similar interests to mine, where I knew of no such people around me (and would have had a lot of difficulty approaching if I did).

Joey Gannon, archivist:

I discovered ticalc.org as a 7th grader in 1999. A teacher handed me a TI-83 to use in a math competition. When a classmate said he'd heard you could play chess on it, I had to know more. I downloaded hundreds of programs and pored over their source to understand how they worked. I read the manual cover to cover to learn how to create my own. I saved up and bought a whole fleet of calculators, and published programs for all of them.

Writing software was the most satisfying feeling I'd ever had, and ticalc.org was both a tremendous resource and outlet for me. I became one of the site's most prolific authors, and then came aboard to help manage the file archives. I moved on to C++ classes in high school, then studied computer science at Carnegie Mellon, and now I get paid to write software for robots. Like Isaac, maybe I'd have found this path eventually anyway, but I'm eternally grateful that this site was able to steer me in the right direction.

Thanks for 20 years! Looking forward to many more.

Magnus Hagander, founding staff member and editor-in-chief:

Initially it was mostly about getting the ZShell content out there and things like that, for me as well the site fairly quickly took on an appeal of it's own. I learned a lot back in those days both about running servers, and about building web applications and systems. I'm amazed at how much of the things that were built around then and primarily around the time of the "second overhaul" are still in production and functioning well 15-20 years later. In fact, it's interesting to see how "best practices" in the industry over the years have in a lot of cases turned towards being the things we did back then. Those two things combine tell me we did at least something right.

While I was pretty certain I'd be getting into "IT" regardless, the early experiences with ticalc.org certainly helped steer me towards an involvement in communities around open source software, which has led me to the part of the industry where I am now. I may have ended up there anyway, but it definitely helped nudge me in that direction.

There's a lot of people who have been around for a long time, and I think it's great that a lot of the people from the "old days" are still in contact, and I'm very happy to call many of these people my friends. And *that* would definitely not have happened without ticalc.org.

And in slightly related news, if we can just sort out our calendars properly, I will be having lunch with the infamous nickd tomorrow.

Isaac Salpeter, founder:

Back in 1996, I was putting myself through film school doing computer support work on campus. I started the project mainly as a way to learn how to set up a domain on the internet from beginning to end, with a goal of providing a useful, non-commercial resource. It ended up being ticalc.org because I had gotten into programming my TI-85 in my high school years and there seemed to be a niche - there were a few scattered web pages, but no real rallying point. Fortunately, that nascent community of hackers (in the positive sense) that I reached out to in February of 1996 happened to include some of the smartest, most community-minded people I've ever met before or since, which is why ticalc.org was actually successful.

Through setting up the site, I learned how DNS and domain registration worked, how to set up and administer a Linux-based server running mail, web, and FTP services. I also learned (sometimes the hard way) how to put together a team and how to deal with the legal issues that can arise from operating a site hosting user-contributed content. This experience was what really launched my tech career.

Maybe this career happens without getting to work with (and learn from) all the people who contributed to ticalc.org - especially Magnus and Chris and Henrik back in the early days. Maybe not. Maybe I'd be retired now if I'd invested my time and money back then in speculating on domain names or any number of other crass pursuits instead. Maybe not. I am proud of ticalc.org though - we made something because it was interesting to us and useful to other, and it's still here, still useful 20 years later. That's pretty freakin' cool.

Astrid Smith, editor:

The TI scene has been one of the best social groups that I've had the privilege of being a member of. It was the first place I felt at home on the Internet, and still feels more like home than any other place. Kind of like a parent's home sometimes - I haven't spent much time here in a while but I'll always come back to it.

I've met so many nice people (and naturally some not-so-nice people)through calculators. I've changed the world, in very small ways, and I hope that I've done my little bit to help some people find their way. It's amazing what you can do with just a linkport :P

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Re: ticalc.org turns 20 years old today!
Isaac Salpeter  Account Info
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Oh, also, because this is a thing these days, you can AMA. I'll reply here.

Reply to this comment    21 June 2016, 22:17 GMT

Re: Re: ticalc.org turns 20 years old today!
Erkki-Juhani Lämsä  Account Info

Since no-one has asked anything yet (of which I'm bit surprised), I may start:

Is there anything that you would have wanted to do differently back then?

Reply to this comment    22 June 2016, 09:25 GMT


Re: Re: Re: ticalc.org turns 20 years old today!
Isaac Salpeter  Account Info
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> Is there anything that you would have wanted to do differently back then?

Well, everything worked out pretty well in the end so there's not much. We were a pretty self-selecting team with no hierarchy in the early days and that worked well - until it didn't and we had to put some structure around interviewing volunteers and compartmentalizing access and authority in place in order to protect the site and ourselves from antisocial behavior.

But by that point the site was pretty well established - I don't know if it would have gotten off the ground if I'd approached Magnus, Dan, Chris, Rob, Henrik (especially Henrik) insisting on hierarchy and offering them the opportunity to interview to volunteer for a site that didn't exist yet. It just wouldn't have been the right thing to do at that stage.(That's not my style anyway.)

Actually, if there's one thing I would have wished for, it would have been for more resources to replace failing hardware and the loss of my network connection at work that took us offline (and forced a panicked search for new hosting) for an extended period of time after less than a year of operations. That's why our web server statistics (linked on the 'About' page) "only" go back to April 1997.

Reply to this comment    22 June 2016, 11:15 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: ticalc.org turns 20 years old today!
DJ_Omnimaga Account Info
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I assume that's also why all news from before April 1997 are missing too?

Reply to this comment    22 June 2016, 15:02 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ticalc.org turns 20 years old today!
Isaac Salpeter  Account Info
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Yep, exactly. Fair to say our backups could have been better too. Like I said, lots of lessons learned.

Reply to this comment    22 June 2016, 15:34 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ticalc.org turns 20 years old today!
DJ_Omnimaga Account Info
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To be honest, back in the 90's and early 2000's, TI websites with stable hosting, URL and data protection seemed to be rare. :P

Reply to this comment    22 June 2016, 16:51 GMT

Re: Re: ticalc.org turns 20 years old today!
Jim Bauwens Account Info
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Do you still use your handhelds at times?

Reply to this comment    22 June 2016, 14:19 GMT


Re: Re: Re: ticalc.org turns 20 years old today!
Isaac Salpeter  Account Info
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If by handhelds you mean my calculators, no. I still have my original (overclocked!) TI-85 and a prototype TI-83 silver edition, but neither have batteries in them.

Honestly, I wasn't even using them when I set up the site. I just wanted to give back to the scene of school-age hackers (in the positive sense) that I'd come from. (I was just getting into into UNIX(-like) systems in a big way at the time, and that's where I've made my career since.)

Reply to this comment    22 June 2016, 15:40 GMT


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DJ_Omnimaga Account Info
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I can't imagine how many people we would be on ticalc.org if everyone here programmed their calculators or related softwares for as long as myself, Patrick Davidson, Lionel Debroux, KermMartian and BrandonW did. We started in 2001, 1998, 2001, 1999 and 199X-2000 respectively, yet still occasionally release new programs or software updates. :P

Reply to this comment    22 June 2016, 16:41 GMT


Re: Re: ticalc.org turns 20 years old today!
hart Account Info
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I have been visiting ticalc.org since 1999, and it has been interesting seeing the various ups and downs throughout the years. I think my favorite time in the TI community was 2001-2004, as there was just an explosion of activity with lots of new programs and members -- in fact, thinking about it right now puts a smile on my face :)

I don't know if this is the most appropriate place to ask, but I was wondering what you thought of the ticalc.org page on TI Story (URL: http://tistory.wikidot.com/ticalc)? Anything that should be changed or added?

Reply to this comment    27 June 2016, 03:20 GMT


Re: Re: Re: ticalc.org turns 20 years old today!
Chickendude Account Info
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We were around about the same time. I also remember the 'heyday' of the TI community, right up until the early 2000s. Comment filtering, first post wars, w00t, backlogs of thousands of programs waiting to be approved (maybe a little exaggeration), lots of programming groups, and tons of activity, both in the comments and the archives. It was a cool time to be a calculator programmer and i'm still in awe of what folks were able to do, especially in those early days with the "classic" programmers (TCPA immediately comes to mind) that probably inspired a lot of us to learn assembly and try writing our own games.

Reply to this comment    31 August 2016, 16:27 GMT

Re: ticalc.org turns 20 years old today!
Michael Vincent Account Info

Words cannot describe the impact that this site, it's people, and calculators have had on my life. It's been the most awesome experience to be part of the ticalc.org community and nothing I will ever do can match all those thousands of magic hours of my youth spent obsessing over the site, my programs, and everything else calculator-related, including those many late nights in 2001 in #tcpa on IRC.

This community has meant the world to me, and although I'm no longer active in calculators, it will always be a part of me.

Cheers to another twenty years!

Reply to this comment    21 June 2016, 23:41 GMT

Re: ticalc.org turns 20 years old today!
DJ_Omnimaga Account Info
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I remember when I first visited this site in late 2001. Its archives were down so I came back a few months later, when they were finally back up and realized the importance of this website in the TI community. I then got shocked to see it had been around for 5-6 years already at the time, something uncommon back when sites usually went offline after just 2-3 years. I'm glad to see it's still around after 20 years and kinda amazed that it still uses the same theme since 1999. Good job to the ticalc.org staff :)

Reply to this comment    22 June 2016, 01:02 GMT


Re: Re: ticalc.org turns 20 years old today!
Chickendude Account Info
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Yeah, i don't think i could get used to ticalc with a different theme...

Reply to this comment    31 August 2016, 16:29 GMT

Re: ticalc.org turns 20 years old today!
Jim Bauwens Account Info
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Congratulations! My discovery of ticalc.org only dates back to ten years ago, but it has definitely helped me with my ventures in CS, for what I am extremely thankful.

Reply to this comment    22 June 2016, 14:21 GMT

Re: ticalc.org is 20 years old!
DWedit  Account Info
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This is the first thread I've seen a while with people with lower user IDs than me :)

Reply to this comment    22 June 2016, 20:27 GMT

Re: Re: ticalc.org is 20 years old!
Dan Englender Account Info
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Pleased to oblige!

And glad to see familiar names.

Reply to this comment    23 June 2016, 22:51 GMT


Re: Re: ticalc.org is 20 years old!
DJ_Omnimaga Account Info
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This is also one of the few thread that you posted in where one of your post did not include a complaint about how we have to re-activate our account every 120 day. :P I'm glad they got rid of that "feature", lol.

Reply to this comment    24 June 2016, 05:22 GMT


Re: Re: Re: ticalc.org is 20 years old!
Caleb Hansberry  Account Info
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Oh haha, I remember that feature and the frustration - I'd sometimes skip commenting cause it was too much hassle. It's better now :)

Reply to this comment    29 June 2016, 06:37 GMT

Re: ticalc.org is 20 years old!
Chuck Slezak  Account Info

Congrats to everyone involved! I've been on here 16 years. My first calculator was a TI-86, and I was looking for a place for download some games. Then I found ticalc.org. As time went on, I began to make my own programs and wanted to share them with everyone.

Here's to 20 more years!

Reply to this comment    24 June 2016, 03:45 GMT

Re: ticalc.org is 20 years old!
fryedsoft  Account Info
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I've been around for 19.5 of those 20 years. And have watched every other site come and go through that time. While there has been some rocky moments you guys never lost faith in keeping the univerasal TI calculator archive Dream alive for the past 20 years.

Hope to see what the next 20 ears brings.

Reply to this comment    26 June 2016, 13:55 GMT

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