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Bryan Rabeler and ticalc.org Part Ways
Posted on 5 March 1999, 03:42 GMT

We are sorry to announce that Bryan Rabeler, a member of our staff for the past two years, will no longer be contributing to the project. While Bryan has played a tremendous role in making our site a success, we are no longer able to collaborate with Bryan in a beneficial way. We wish Bryan the best of luck for the future and once again would like to acknowledge the considerable commitment he has made to the site in the past.

 


The comments below are written by ticalc.org visitors. Their views are not necessarily those of ticalc.org, and ticalc.org takes no responsibility for their content.


Re: Bryan Rabeler and ticalc.org Part Ways
Rafael H. Padilla V.

for me Bryan Rabeler is the best in this
site he allway help me; other are like
dead men because no respond my e-mails.

     5 March 1999, 18:45 GMT

Re: Bryan Rabeler and ticalc.org Part Ways
Anonymous

They should have kicked Rabeler off the staff when he hacked into a rival site.

As far as I'm concerned, if people are going to act like 2 year olds they shouldn't be a part of TICalc's staff.

     5 March 1999, 19:12 GMT

Re: Bryan Rabeler and ticalc.org Part Ways
JEEPman98
(Web Page)

GROW UP PEOPLE. He's gone. So the site moves on. Big WHOOP.

     5 March 1999, 19:40 GMT


Re: Re: Bryan Rabeler and ticalc.org Part Ways
George Limpert
(Web Page)

I know I'm stating the obvious but you are a TI-FILES member. It's easy to see why you would feel that way. I agree with the person who posted that Bryan was one of the few members of ticalc.org that made any noticeable contributions and he was the only one who responded to e-mail. He did one hell of a job for ticalc.org. I wish everyone would shut up about the TI-FILES hack. Bryan came forward and apologized. Shut up and forget about it. And you JEEPMAN98 should be ashemed to post such messages. I think people should not speculate about why Bryan is no longer with ticalc.org. I also think that people with rival sites should not post messages complaining about Bryan. JEEPMAN98 needs to grow up and quit acting like a two year old.

     5 March 1999, 22:51 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Bryan Rabeler and ticalc.org Part Ways
Shaun (Emp) McCormick
(Web Page)

Ok. I'm not going to restate what I said at the top. Jeep, stop saying that stuff or you're gonna get yourself in even more trouble. Keep your opinions to yourself. That's hurting the TI-Files image. Now, Mr. Limpert (formal addressing), you really shouldn't be so stereotypical. Really. It's immature.

     6 March 1999, 04:30 GMT

Re: Bryan Rabeler and ticalc.org Part Ways
David Hall - (SiCoDe Member)
(Web Page)

Hey! Who are we supposed to pester now to get our games nominated for the Basic Program of the Month Awards? And why's Bryan still replying to my emails? Have you replaced him with a clone or something? Now how's THAT for a conspiricy theory...
- David Hall
SiCoDe Member

     5 March 1999, 19:51 GMT

Re: Bryan Rabeler and ticalc.org Part Ways
SPUI

You know what would be really funny? He could start a TI-related site and get it hosted by org :)

     5 March 1999, 21:36 GMT


Re: Re: Bryan Rabeler and ticalc.org Part Ways
Atom
(Web Page)

No, I beleive ticalc.org said in their TOS that they'll take a hosted site down if it gets more hits than ticalc itself :)

     5 March 1999, 22:14 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Bryan Rabeler and ticalc.org Part Ways
danny

haha that was pretty funny. I think, if he is still intrested, he should go to work with Dim-TI or eh maybe not that one hehe. ;) Bryan is a cool guy.

P.S. If that is true that if a site gets more hits than ticalc than that is really dumb.

     5 March 1999, 23:57 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Bryan Rabeler and ticalc.org Part Ways
atom
(Web Page)

It's a fine rule. First of all, it is extremely unlikely that this rule would ever need to be enforced. If such a TI site did exist - none do now - then they would probably want their own server, more than 30 megs, file archives, and a domain name. Also, I doubt ticalc.org could spare half their bandwith dealing with one site that they host.

That's all I have to say on this off-topic discussion :)

     6 March 1999, 19:12 GMT

Re: Bryan Rabeler and ticalc.org Part Ways
man

I was over at ti-files and they said that their IRC channel was taken over again, and someone is continuing to mess with their webpage. They "say" that it was no one from a rival site, but I wouldn't be so sure of that.

Yep that's it. Bryan has gone the rampage. Something musta poped in his head or something.

It's always sad when the best of them go loco

     5 March 1999, 23:01 GMT

Re: Re: Bryan Rabeler and ticalc.org Part Ways
CrashNbur
(Web Page)

I don't know who you are, but do the world a favor, and stop sticking your nose in places it does not belong. Bryan Rabeler has never taken the TI-Files IRC channel to my knowledge. Being a TI-Files member, I usually know what's going down. So why don't you wait till you actually know something before saying it.

     5 March 1999, 23:58 GMT

Re: Re: Bryan Rabeler and ticalc.org Part Ways
Da Wierdo

Suprisingly, that had nothing at all to do with ANY other calc site. dont blame it on Bryan.

     5 March 1999, 23:58 GMT


Re: Re: Bryan Rabeler and ticalc.org Part Ways
Shaun (Emp) McCormick
(Web Page)

Actually, I just have to reply to this. #Ti-Files, recent TI-Files hacks, and Bryan's unfortunate retirement have nothing whatsoever to do with each other. The takeovers and hacks were done by someone named Lord-I. This person has been netbusing people, nuking, flooding, and every other illegal internet related thing you can think of to the Files. So please, apologize. Bryan is nowhere near at fault for this.

     6 March 1999, 00:03 GMT

TI-Files hack is irrelevant
CrashNbur
(Web Page)

I agree with Mr. Limpert; Bryan did one helluva job for ticalc.org, more than I can say that anyone has done for the TI-Files (except maybe DJacKaL). The archives is probably the most difficult task to keep up with, and Bryan put up with it for two years. Even if he did "hack" the TI-Files, nothing was done that wasn't fixed within a few hours. And besides, people GAVE him passwords and told him to do it. I'm not saying it was right, but he did less wrong than the others involved.

To put it simply: Byran was the backbone of ticalc.org, and I won't be surprised if it slowly falls apart as a result of his departure. However, I would like to see the site go on very much; I love this site. Besides, who else would we compete with? Dimension-TI? HA! (respond atom, I dare ya... =)

     5 March 1999, 23:53 GMT

Re: TI-Files hack is irrelevant
MeltMan
(Web Page)

Us? Competition? Were so great we dont need to compete... =)

     6 March 1999, 00:01 GMT


Re: Re: TI-Files hack is irrelevant
ticalc.org
(Web Page)

Oh yeah, that's right... Too good for everyone else. Maybe that's why you basically copied ticalc.org's address (ti.calc.org), maybe you wanted a few accidental hits or something. Who knows? Anything low to get a few extra hits on a web page is perfectly legal. Or maybe that's why atom helped to hack the TI-Files a few months back. I see your point.

     6 March 1999, 00:19 GMT

Re: Re: Re: TI-Files hack is irrelevant
Chicane
(Web Page)

I really dont think that this is the place for a flame war between the various ti sites. Bryan Rabeler has just lost his place (due to unknown circumstances), which is extremely sad. He has always been a good guy, even if all of his decisions havent reflected it. So just stop the whole 'we are better than you' crap, and give Bry a little sympathy.

-Chicane

     6 March 1999, 00:41 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI-Files hack is irrelevant
atom
(Web Page)

*ahem* site competition

But I can't leave this subject open. First of all, Meltman is NOT a Dimension-TI member (Meltman, I'd appreciate it if you stopped refering to Dimension-TI is "us"). His views do not represent those of Dimension-TI.

Now as far as copying ticalc.org's address.. where did you get that idea? calc.net and calc.com, or anything else we could have wanted were already take, calc.org was actually one of our last choices. And you think we paid $70 for "a few accidental hits"? Sorry, but we have better ways to spend money. ti.calc.org just happens to work because *.calc.org forwards to us, provided that the third level domain is not being used for something else. We weren't expecting anyone to be stupid enough to insert a period after "ti" to make ticalc.org become ti.calc.org. We only wanted a short domain name that was somewhat relevent to calculators. Besides, we were responding to customer feedback, as we had a vote on this issue some time back.

     6 March 1999, 02:35 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI-Files hack is irrelevant
Andy Selle

Interestingly enough, ticalc.org had originally considered getting calc.org, but it ruled against it, because we thought it was too general (i.e. there are other types of calculators). In any case, it seems to be a natural domain name, and I agree with Atom on this issue.

     6 March 1999, 21:07 GMT

TI-Files SUCKS
----

just to let you know, i think dimension-ti kicks ti-files' but any day. ti-files is boring and old and they don't post anything interesting. dim-ti and ticalc.org at least have news and stuff. plus they have good-looking sites, unlike that ugly gray you guys use. turbosoft did a piss-poor job, but at least they did it to the right ti site.

get a life.

     6 March 1999, 00:47 GMT

NO FLAMES
George Limpert
(Web Page)

This is not the place to be posting flames. Your comments are irrelevant to the subject. BTW:Who are you?

     6 March 1999, 01:11 GMT

Re: TI-Files SUCKS
Shaun (Emp) McCormick
(Web Page)

Ok, you have obviously never heard of requirements, limitations, and resolution occurences. Probably because you never have even bothered to amount to anything via the WWW. Now, that's not a bad thing necessarily, but you have no right whatsoever to insult a company that did a much better job than any other TI* related group could have done. The real story behind the frames and the gray are:
1) We (Turbosoft) were required by the TI-Files Staff to use a baackground, except not to use a sideborder background. No other background besides the gray fit with the images. And, honestly, a plain white background was our first choice.
2) We were required to use frames. There are many reasons for this, one being that it is much easier to update. Secondly, it loads pages faster. Again, our first layout was tables.
3) That layout you so arrogantly demeanored was a job far more effective and "prettier" as we in the web design genre put it. Not only does it work flawlessly in all resolutions, but it has an interactive interface, high-intensity graphics, and loads quite fast.

Now, if you still aren't convinced, Turbosoft also provides Macromedia Flash support. See our site.
turbosoft.org --- Click on Flash.
Now if that still isn't good enough for you, I suggest you start doing this yourself.

     6 March 1999, 03:28 GMT


hey...
INV3RTIG0
(Web Page)

right on Shaun!looks like only a couple of people know how to add Flash Support to pages... My company Angel Wed-Site Design (not www. angelwebdesign .com) is specializing in fully interactive flash 3 sites... if you want an example of what we know how to do... check out macromedia's homepage, or Six Flags homepage..

As for the whole Bryan Rabeler leaving thing... I musts say, ticalc, I'm disgusted with you and you no longer have any of my respect whatsoever... after reading Bryan's post at Dim-ti today, I may never visit ticalc.org again, after I finish with this message. I think that you at ticalc.org must be the biggest group of underqualified, arrogant asses on the net. I hope you guys realize that the site will never be the same without Bryan, and hopefully, somebody will have the guts to come forward from your staff and give us the real reason why you fired him. Then , the whole TI world will know the truth.

I hope that one day you people learn to think for yourselves and stand up for what you belive in, like what I'm doing right now...


Ticalc.org,
here's hoping that your server overloads... and becomes a big paperweight!


INV3RTIG0

     7 March 1999, 23:48 GMT

TI-Files RULES
CrashNbur
(Web Page)

I have a sneaking suspicion of who you are, but I won't guess. I'm not into site-bashing, so I won't bash any of the three mentioned site. Actually, I really can't. In my opinion, Dimension-TI, ticalc.org, and the TI-Files are the three best TI calc pages on the internet, period. If you don't like any particular one, I'm sure the majority of us would rather not hear about it here. So do us all a favor, and let's just make comments on Bryan Rabeler's departure, and not bash other sites.

     6 March 1999, 04:21 GMT

Re: TI-Files RULES
danny

You are talking alot of stupid stuff. Those are the three best ti sites. They are the three only sites of there kind. With not just archives, but with all of what they all have(i will not go into what they have). So just chill. Think before you post.(i sound like a politician)

     6 March 1999, 06:42 GMT


Re: Re: TI-Files RULES
Crashnbur
(Web Page)

What the hell are you talking about? I didn't badmouth any sites. Think before you respond... And try to stay on topic (ironic considering my message topic...).

     8 March 1999, 22:43 GMT


Re: TI-Files RULES
Blade

Emp is one of the guys @ tifiles. He works on the TiFiles MOO.
Generally a cool guy... though no offense to him, he could stand to make peace w/ ticalc.org. The rivalry thing is getting a little out of hand.

     7 March 1999, 01:42 GMT


Re: Re: TI-Files RULES
Shaun (Emp) McCormick
(Web Page)

Really, thanks for the compliments. However, one thing is wrong in your last statement. I never have had any hard feelings for ticalc.org, and never will. I feel I am beyond that level. Instead of viewing the TI-Files and ticalc.org as two giants constantly fighting, I view them as two very-dedicated websites both providing their users with as much information as possible. As stated in my essay at the top, I am a valid and active supporter in cooling things down. Just wanted to clear that up.

     7 March 1999, 23:01 GMT

Re: TI-Files SUCKS
(KSA)Tekken

Hey, I hate to break it to ya but, TurboSoft did a GREAT job at ti-files, in my opinion its the best looking site now... I barly ever post comments to stuff like this but now you've gone to far... All of the sites update about the same time... Except for calc.org which is not their fault, having server problems, upgrades, etc... There gettin' back in the swing of things now though... Well that's my 2 cents...
(KSA)Tekken

     8 March 1999, 01:25 GMT

Re: TI-Files SUCKS
Caligula

I must disagree with you. TI-files looks great now, at the very least when compared to old look. Before it looked quite homemade. Now it looks professional. Its very smooth. I commend Turbosoft on a job well-done.

     8 March 1999, 04:49 GMT


Re: TI-Files SUCKS
JEEPman98

So you think TI-Files sucks uh? Well at least we're proud enough to put our name on it.

     8 March 1999, 14:54 GMT


Re: Re: TI-Files SUCKS
Crashnbur
(Web Page)

My thoughts exactly.

     8 March 1999, 22:46 GMT


Re: TI-Files hack is irrelevant
atom
(Web Page)

Since you dared me...

I'll keep the discussion about the past "hack" of TI-Files closed, as that happened months ago and I've already tried to stop conversation about it in this forum. Just one correction, so as facts don't get misinterpreted, Bryan was not "told" to do anything, it was his own decision.

If you don't think Dimension-TI is a site worth competing with, why do you keep bringing it up? If you truly didn't care about our site, you would say nothing about it. I would post more, but I don't want to disobey ticalc's rule against "website competition." If you want to discuss this with me further, E-Mail me or contact me on IRC.

     6 March 1999, 02:40 GMT


Re: Re: TI-Files hack is irrelevant
CrashNbur
(Web Page)

Sorry if I were unclear atom. I meant it in good fun (and maybe a little humor). Your site, Dimension-TI has been one of my favorites since late 1997. Don't get me wrong, you were never my favorite boss, but that has nothing to do with me picking on you.

As far as Bryan Rabeler not being "told" to hack the Ti-Files, sorry for being unclear. He was "told" the passwords, with which he could do what he wishes. If I've been unclear anywhere else, feel free to point it out.

Also, whoever is using my name, please stop.

     6 March 1999, 04:11 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI-Files hack is irrelevant
Me

All you people are making this guy look like some kind of master hacker...HE DIDN'T HACK ANYTHING. Hacking is NOT getting a password from someone who has access, logging in, and deleting stuff. You could call it an attack, but not a hack.

     6 March 1999, 08:01 GMT

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