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Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher for TI-83+
Posted by Andy on 12 August 2002, 04:44 GMT

Kirk Meyer of Detached Solutions released a flash application Graph³. It is faster than the TI-89's built-in grapher. It features rotation, zooming, tracing, and more. It also draws either wireframe or hidden surface plots (and rotation is fast with either).

Update (Andy): Version 1.0 is now available, which fixes some bugs as well as compatibility with OS version 1.13.

 


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Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
RCTParRoThEaD_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Cool! a fast grapher! FIRST POST! w00t! PARADE! PYRAMID! SKREEEEEEEEEE!! Sorry. It's my first first post!

     12 August 2002, 04:50 GMT

I feel old.
RCTParRoThEaD_  Account Info
(Web Page)

btw, yesterday was my birthday. i got nothing. i'm 14. When the new programmers arrive, i'll really feel like an old fart. :-p

     12 August 2002, 05:00 GMT

Re: I feel old.
PolarDPres Account Info
(Web Page)

This really has nothing to do with the program, other than I think its a great idea, and now I can stop trying to do that with my calculator.
Visit My Web Site, I need Ti-83+ programmers!
Please Visit
P.S.
I realize how childish that sounds

     12 August 2002, 06:05 GMT

Re: Re: I feel old.
<h3m04v+0+r0ph
(Web Page)

I'm a TI-89 programmer. Need them? Ahh, never mind. I need to keep my own group running. TI-68K programmers for Irregular Polygon are now being unofficially recruited, to sign up, all you can do is email me, there is no sign form on my website yer.

     12 August 2002, 21:05 GMT

Re: Re: Re: I feel old.
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Irregular Polygon? I'm a TI-89 programmer, but only in C, so I probably wouldn't be much help.

     13 August 2002, 15:55 GMT

I guess I'm schtoopid
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Heck, I can't even do the link routine stuff. I guess I'm schtoopid. :(

     13 August 2002, 17:14 GMT


Re: I guess I'm schtoopid
<h3m04v+0+r0ph  Account Info
(Web Page)

There are very few people who can do link routines right, you're not "schtoopid" if you can't either.

     13 August 2002, 19:55 GMT


Re: Re: I guess I'm schtoopid
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Yay! I'm not schtoopid! ;-)

     14 August 2002, 01:49 GMT


Re: Re: Re: I guess I'm schtoopid
RCTParRoThEaD_  Account Info
(Web Page)

but your no_one

     14 August 2002, 04:55 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: I guess I'm schtoopid
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Yeah, *sigh* I'm a no_one.

     14 August 2002, 18:20 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I guess I'm schtoopid
Joe Blow  Account Info

I don't believe this...the 89 has more ram than an 83 and a faster processor(am I wrong?), so how can it graph faster, and if it can, can the 89 use the same method to graph even faster? did the TI people just not know what they were doing when they made the TI-89 grapher?

     16 August 2002, 05:59 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I guess I'm schtoopid
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

What does that have to do with me being a no_one? ;-)

Actually, I think this was (kind of) explained further down in here. Kirk's prog was more effiecent and stuff. Plus, I think the screen size also has something to do with it.

     16 August 2002, 16:27 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I guess I'm schtoopid
Julien MONVILLE

well, the built-in 3d grapher of the TI68K is very unefficient :o
it's very slow (like all the AMS in fact..)

     17 August 2002, 00:38 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I guess I'm schtoopid
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Yeah, the pop-up windows are extremely slow.

     17 August 2002, 01:01 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I guess I'm schtoopid
Allan Peng  Account Info
(Web Page)

I think there is a TI-83plus version, too. It graphs pretty fast for a ti83plus.

     2 December 2003, 20:59 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I guess I'm schtoopid
Ravneet Singh  Account Info

noo see 89 has a bigger screen and thus it has to deal with more video mem and im guessing here but 89 has at leas 3 times more vid mem to work with so that really slows things down

     18 August 2002, 01:18 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I guess I'm schtoopid
Kirk Meyer Account Info
(Web Page)

Although the extra screen size doesn't help it, the 83+ with this code would still beat the 89 at its screen size. (I ran a test run of this actually, with a fake 160x100 video RAM.)

     16 June 2005, 02:26 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I guess I'm schtoopid
Kirk Meyer Account Info
(Web Page)

Although the 89 has a faster processor, they wrote in C. Even the assembly code on the 83+ isn't too efficient. It took some time to optimize the math and graphics in this to make it this fast.

     16 June 2005, 02:27 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: I guess I'm schtoopid
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Do you really know all of those languages for the TI-Graphing Calculators?

     16 August 2002, 21:04 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I guess I'm schtoopid
slimey_limey  Account Info

the z80 languages are all similar, as are the 68k languages.
The 68000 was named same becuase the first version had 68,000 transistors!

     17 August 2002, 05:50 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I guess I'm schtoopid
Halfmoon Account Info
(Web Page)

o0o0o0o...
By the way - I think I know who you are...

     18 August 2002, 02:20 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I guess I'm schtoopid
slimey_limey  Account Info

Who0o0o0o do0o0o0o yo0o0o0ou think I am?

     18 August 2002, 04:00 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I guess I'm schtoopid
Halfmoon Account Info
(Web Page)

Does 'Washington Middle School' ring any bells?
Hmmmm...
Name: Duncan Smith
Time Zone: GMT -08:00 Pacific (U.S. & Canada)
Calculator(s) Owned: TI-89
Are y0o0o0o wh0o0o0o I think y0o0o0o are?

     18 August 2002, 23:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I guess I'm schtoopid
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Um... why is his e-mail address

Mrs. Limey Limey?

     24 August 2002, 20:12 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: I feel old.
<h3m04v+0+r0ph
(Web Page)

I'm mainly interested in C programmers actually. Email me, you may be a big help.

     13 August 2002, 19:45 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I feel old.
benryves Account Info
(Web Page)

NO!! NOT C!!!!
ASM is the way forwards :)

     4 September 2002, 14:19 GMT

Re: Re: Re: I feel old.
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Hey, this looks kind of like a pyramid, and we didn't even do it on purpose! That's kinda weird...

     14 August 2002, 01:50 GMT


Re: Re: Re: I feel old.
PolarDPres Account Info
(Web Page)

If you want to submit work to Polar Development, then go ahead, we'll take any programs that work well. We only change it a little so that it says Polar Development, and your name. So any one feel free and send us some of your work.

     14 August 2002, 02:31 GMT

Re: Re: I feel old.
KermMartian  Account Info
(Web Page)

A 3D grapher! c00l! I am making one like that for the TI-83/+/silver calcs.

P.S.- If you like Ion and Mirage, chack out www.DoorsXP.tk (or click ^^ABOVE^^) for a cool new shell, Doors XP

     13 August 2002, 20:28 GMT


Re: Re: Re: I feel old.
KermMartian  Account Info
(Web Page)

Doors XP is a **MULTITASKING!!** GUI interface that autodetects ASM, SOS, Ash, and BASIC programs. It includes an incredibly fast mouse program and drivers for connecting a real (!!) mouse through the linkport. It is very similar to Windows XP, with a start menu, My Documents and My Pictures folders, Word XP and Excel XP, and many other incredibly cool programs such as Media Player XP that can play music! This program will be a major breakthrough in TI shells, and can be used as an alternative to the TI-OS. Once run for the first time, it can shutdown, restart, and includes the option of a secure, integrated, uncrackable password protection program. It allows multiple usernames with separate preferences for each user. Respond or email me at Kerm_Martian@yahoo.com if you have any comments, questions, or suggestions. It can multitask up to 4 programs at once! It can even make temporary interrupt programs so that a number crunching program can run while you are playing a game!

I need beta testers to test it out. I especially need skilled porters to convert it to TI-83+ ASM and Flash.

Please email me at Kerm_Martian@yahoo.com if you can help.

     14 August 2002, 19:53 GMT


It really can do all of that?
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Your program can do all of that? You must have worked on it for a long time--It can play music? I assume it needs headphones/AM radio? When you say it detects "Ash", you mean it's for the TI-82 as well? If it can detect Ash, can it detect CrASH? CrASH is more popular than Ash, because it can run most Ash games.

     14 August 2002, 20:53 GMT


Re: Doors XP Features
KermMartian  Account Info
(Web Page)

It can communicate with all sorts of devices using TICI (pronounced "tea key"), or TI Connection Inteface. It's kind of like USB, only for calculators. Now don't start flaming me about what a stupid idea it is, because it just needs a simple 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter for the headphones. As for the Ash/CRaSh stuff, I hope to put those in Version 1.0. If you can give me any suggestions or info, please go to www.DoorsXP.tk and enter your suggestion in the Guestbook. Hope this answers your questions.

     16 August 2002, 21:46 GMT

Re: Re: Doors XP Features
343GuiltySpark  Account Info
(Web Page)

Doors XP looks cool ... a little ambitious, but if it can be done, Kerm would be hailed as the next programming genius.
And a note for Kerm: The TI-85 port of Unreal Tournament is going to be really hard or even impossible to do due to the fact that it doesn't have the Text( command and probably others that are essential to the game. So don't expect to see a TI-85 version any time soon.

     16 August 2002, 23:40 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Doors XP Features
mike newkie  Account Info
(Web Page)

What about the ti-86 version??

     17 August 2002, 00:37 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Doors XP Features
mike newkie  Account Info
(Web Page)

What about the ti-86 version??

     17 August 2002, 00:37 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Doors XP Features
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

What about the ti-86 version??

     17 August 2002, 01:04 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Doors XP Features
mike newkie  Account Info
(Web Page)

I thought i remember him saying on another article, that he was porting it to the 86, maybe I was wrong.

     17 August 2002, 16:42 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Doors XP Features
KermMartian  Account Info
(Web Page)

The TI-86 version has in fact been released. Go to the link above and choose UnreaL TOurnaMent 86.

     17 August 2002, 17:23 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Doors XP Features
343GuiltySpark  Account Info
(Web Page)

Yep, it's been released. It took a little longer than I would have liked, due to summer work and the fact that I overlooked an If ... Then statement that kept the game from working.

     18 August 2002, 00:19 GMT


Re: Re: Doors XP Features
slimey_limey  Account Info

One couls make stereo pulse-code-modulation sound by connecting a pair of serial-in, parallel-out chips to a pair of analog-to-digital-converters, each of which is connected to a speaker! multivolume, multichannel sound!
I may do that!

I _will_ paint my calculator with blue paint and white racing stripes! Spray paint! Fun! I'm hyper!

     17 August 2002, 05:56 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Doors XP Features
Joe Blow  Account Info

Yes...of corse you will...it's time to take your pills now

     19 August 2002, 01:26 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Doors XP Features
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

I think he's a bit high...

     24 August 2002, 20:13 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Doors XP Features
KermMartian  Account Info
(Web Page)

Rrriiiggggghhhhtttttt........

You could also just connect the headphones using a stereo to stereo adapter; then you just put the left stream through the tip of the link port and the right through the middle. Base is GND.

     20 August 2002, 19:08 GMT


Re: Re: I feel old.
PolarDPres Account Info
(Web Page)

update your damn web site!!!!!!!!!
Now! this news is old now
I want something new to comment on.
Yes I am impatient
Oh yeah, change the poll to, its to old and has only shown us that most of your users haven't used Linux or Mac, and just make blanket statements when they know nothing about either.

     15 August 2002, 18:00 GMT

Re: I feel old.
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

And is it just me, or about 7 boards back, didn't you say you went to h00ters? (I'm not allowed)

     12 August 2002, 16:26 GMT


Re: Re: I feel old.
RCTParRoThEaD_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Kids eat free on tuesday.

     13 August 2002, 02:27 GMT


Re: Re: Re: I feel old.
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

LOL never knew that

     13 August 2002, 15:56 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: I feel old.
Elijah McNeish  Account Info

Man, I wish... And Mr. Vincent.. I do hear the word h00ters all the time on national television. This reminds me of when my Sunday school teacher made a joke in front of half the church saying something about how another church member (who's male) should work at h00ters... LOL!!!!

     13 August 2002, 21:26 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I feel old.
RCTParRoThEaD_  Account Info
(Web Page)

man-b00b!s

     13 August 2002, 22:15 GMT


h00ters!
Elijah McNeish  Account Info

Did you really go there?

     14 August 2002, 01:52 GMT


Re: h00ters!
RCTParRoThEaD_  Account Info
(Web Page)

yeah.

     14 August 2002, 04:54 GMT


Re: Re: h00ters!
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Did you like it?

     14 August 2002, 18:21 GMT


Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
Elijah McNeish  Account Info

Who wouldn't?

     14 August 2002, 19:31 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Perhaps a female...

     14 August 2002, 20:54 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
Elijah McNeish  Account Info

I honestly never thought of that.. Ya know, it's hard to understand why females like males, lol.. Hard to relate to..

     14 August 2002, 21:04 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Yeah, plus we're all males on this site (I think)

     15 August 2002, 03:21 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
PolarDPres Account Info
(Web Page)

No girl I know would use this web site, but then again, they hate everything computer except IM.

     15 August 2002, 05:24 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
Leigh Hamon  Account Info
(Web Page)

I know plenty of girls who think geeks are sexy. And I (a female, in case you lunkheads haven't picked up on that yet) think calculators are awesome. But, ya know, "What calculators do you have?" is not a good way to express interest in a girl.

As for all the ticalc users being male.... well that's a load of crap. My two best friends come here as often as most of you guys. Many female geeks claim a male identity in cyberspace because they feel more accepted. Often they don't ever address the issue and it is just assumed that they are male. There are more of us here reading you guys' gossip than you probably think.

     23 August 2002, 22:49 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

... Some girls actually think geeks are sexy? Whoa... cool...

     24 August 2002, 20:15 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
PolarDPres Account Info
(Web Page)

No girl I know would use this web site, but then again, they hate everything computer except IM. Which might explain why they wont go out with me...

     15 August 2002, 05:24 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
PolarDPres Account Info
(Web Page)

i dont know why that posted twice, and why both of them are slightly different. This serrver is wierd...

     15 August 2002, 17:31 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Well, it's because you had half of the message, hit post, then stopped it, then typed the rest and then hit post again. It happens to me every now and then.

     15 August 2002, 18:05 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
PolarDPres Account Info
(Web Page)

thanks its never done that to me before. Well Whatever.

     15 August 2002, 19:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

It happens to me only on occasion... look how far we're going to the right of the screen!

     16 August 2002, 16:28 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

I forgot what I was going to say.

     16 August 2002, 21:05 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
Elijah McNeish  Account Info

I think you were going to say PARADE! for h00ters!

     16 August 2002, 23:02 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
Elijah McNeish  Account Info

Ya know, maybe I should stop using "So.. What graphing calculators do you have?" to try to make conversation with girls.. I've actually done that.. Pathetic, huh?

     16 August 2002, 23:37 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

*laughs*!! That is hilarious!
You: Hey, baby!
Girl: Ya, like, what do you want? *puts finger in hair*
You: So, what graphing calculators do you own?
Girl: Like, wtf?

     17 August 2002, 01:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
Elijah McNeish  Account Info

I've found most of them don't know what a graphing calculator is, lol.. And the few that do usually don't have them.. So I've stopped asking..

     17 August 2002, 02:04 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
Joe Blow  Account Info

do you think there is a limit to how far over we can go?

     19 August 2002, 01:41 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
343GuiltySpark  Account Info
(Web Page)

We discussed that God knows how many posts back. The posts will go over as far as necessary. As for their width, it has to be at least as wide as the Reply to and time/date.

     19 August 2002, 21:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Well, that's pretty weird.
Here are some good sentences to start with before asking a girl out on a date.

"So... how many graphing calculators do you own?"
"Oh my gosh! I can't belive AMS 2.08 is out already!"
"Hey, want to make z80 ASM program together?"
"And, so anyway, the TI-82 doesn't have strings, and so you can't use some of those cool functions that the TI-83 has, but it's okay sometimes, because you can work around it, but it's hard, you know, because it's just so annyoing to have to do all that stuff to convert numbers to characters, but anyway, so I did it, I actually found a pretty fast way to do that and it runs okay and you know, it doesn't have any memory leaks, and so it works really great..."
I should shut up now. I've actually said things similar to girls. They usually just roll their eyes and walk away.

     24 August 2002, 20:19 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
Joe Blow  Account Info

HEY!!! I know a girl who would like to go to h00ters, if you know what I mean...I know her very well actually

     19 August 2002, 01:39 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
Kirk Meyer  Account Info
(Web Page)

Someone moral?

     17 August 2002, 04:46 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
Elijah McNeish  Account Info

They're fully clothed.. Someone needs to tell Kirk Mayo to "Get on up! Get on down to h00ters!"

     17 August 2002, 05:47 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
Kirk Meyer  Account Info
(Web Page)

Sorry, I was under the impression that you were going to see hooters. If you're going so that you can have intelligent conversations with them, then I guess I misunderstood.

Oh, and by the way, my name is Kirk Meyer.

     17 August 2002, 06:06 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
Elijah McNeish  Account Info

Sorry, Mr. Meyer. :) Anyway, you don't see the h00ters, they just have big ones. Do kids really eat free on Tuesdays?

     17 August 2002, 17:11 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
Konstantin Beliakov  Account Info
(Web Page)

Guys like you, Mr. Elijah thrash ticalc.org forums and make others not want to come to read them. Please decrease the number of your very important and very ontopic posts. This is getting ridiculous seeing those pyramide posts and other junk. It's nice remembering '98-'00 years of ticalc.org forums!...

     19 August 2002, 01:17 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: h00ters!
Kirk Meyer Account Info
(Web Page)

I am fully aware of what it is. I was referring to treating woman as objects as immoral.

     16 June 2005, 02:30 GMT

Re: I feel old.
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

(to my reply above)
not like it's some big wish I have or anything

     12 August 2002, 16:26 GMT


Re: I feel old.
Nathan Johnson  Account Info

Wait, is that yesterday as in August 12? And you turned 14 that day? If so, I am exactly the same age as you. Don't you feel lucky? ...or not...

--NJ--

     13 August 2002, 23:44 GMT


Re: Re: I feel old.
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Well, today, as in August 14th... I GOT CONTACTS! YEAH! They feel so weird...

     14 August 2002, 18:22 GMT


Re: Re: Re: I feel old.
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

But, I'm getting used to them.

     14 August 2002, 20:54 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: I feel old.
Elijah McNeish  Account Info

Contacts rule! w00t!

     14 August 2002, 21:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I feel old.
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

w00-h00! They didn't come out at s0ccer practice!

     15 August 2002, 03:21 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I feel old.
Elijah McNeish  Account Info

What kind do you have? I have soft disposable. (Taken out every day, discarded after 2 weeks..)

     16 August 2002, 23:06 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I feel old.
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

I have the type that you can put in and keep in for a week, then take them out, and put them in for another week. Then throw them out and get a new pair. It's really nice, because you don't have to worry about them too much.

     17 August 2002, 01:08 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I feel old.
Elijah McNeish  Account Info

Man, you're lucky! My optometrist (sp?) doesn't think I should have extended wear lenses. Something to do with my eyes (duh), but he didn't explain much. Although he prescribed contacts for me when I was 9, so he's pretty good. A lot of them won't let kids that young have them. Anyway, I don't wear them much, even though my vision is terrible. Just when I drive (which isn't often, ever since I hit that curb,) and special occasions where I need to see, lol.. I really should get into the habit of wearing them more often..

     17 August 2002, 02:12 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I feel old.
Joe Blow  Account Info

I have ones I have to take out every day, and replace every month

     19 August 2002, 01:43 GMT

Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
Michael Vincent  Account Info
(Web Page)

Yes, and now you've exemplified how not to act on message boards.

"Please be constructive and keep comment topics relevant to the article you are replying to." - Violated.
"Messages containing "first comment" boasts, requests for game ports, or criticisms of "newsworthiness" will generally be deleted." - Violated.
"Don't use language you wouldn't hear on U.S. network television." - Violated (no one would scream "first post" on national television).
Don't insult or flame other people in your comments. Keep such sentiments to private email, or better yet, avoid them completely." - Violated (you are insulting all the mature people who came here for serious calculator discussion).

Now that you've been so kind as to demonstrate barbaric and childish behavior, we can move on to the real purpose of my post. This program is very impressive, and since it runs faster than the TI-89, I think that this should show TI how much they are capable of optimizing. I'd like to see the 89/92+/Voyage 200's OS overhauled to be more efficient, like the HP calcs were. It'd really nice for the operating systems to take full advantage of the hardware for once.

     12 August 2002, 05:02 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
TI83andTI89Owner Account Info
(Web Page)

Hey, let's be a little nicer, shall we? If ticalc.org really believes it's worthless, they'll delete it. You took the "Don't use language you wouldn't hear on national television." out of context, you know what they meant by that. He was replying to something relevant, and said it was cool, which means he likes it. And I don't believe he was intentionally trying to insult you. Now that you've made this post, I'm forced to respond with something that has nothing to do with the article as well. But to keep it on topic, I haven't downloaded the program yet, but it's nice and on that note, I agree with you.

     12 August 2002, 05:19 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
connect4

Now that you've been so kind as to demonstrate barbaric and childish behavior, we can move on to the real purpose of my post. "

Jeesh, chill out. You didn't have to insult the person; you're part of the reason that drives people away from boards like this, and then you don't get the input you need. Think about it; a post that says "Woot awesome! (insert garbage here)" and a tactfully worded, "this is a good idea... (insert high vocabulary level garbage here)" essentially say the same thing: you like the program, which is why most people make these programs. Unlike yourself, who does all that Detached work that sometimes earns money, most people make the programs solely for the satisfaction of helping others. Your pompous attitude towards newbies is going to drive them away, and thus eventually cause the decline and end of sites like this.

So, Michael, GROW UP and stick to the guidelines of the board by commenting on the article, and not bashing others. And, learning a little bit of tact might be wise too; "Welcome to the board; just as a warning, they usually delete stuff like that, so watch out in the future" would be at least more civil than "Yes, and now you've exemplified how not to act on message boards." Next time, just don't post; you'll make all of us that much happier to not have to listen to your incessant ramblings.

And so this post is somewhat relevant (and so I don't get posts yelling at me the same way that he yelled at the first poster), this program looks awesome. I may occasionally have had issues with Kirk in the past, since his programs always seemed to make front page while he worked on staff, but he is a very good programmer, and this program demonstrates that well. Kudos to Kurt!

     12 August 2002, 05:30 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
Michael Vincent  Account Info
(Web Page)

Well I would normally agree with you...But perhaps you should check the past 20 news articles and see what this particular person has posted. He floods the comment boards with parades and pyramids, and doesn't care.

     12 August 2002, 05:39 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
acr34  Account Info
(Web Page)

Then you do agree. Be gentle. Your criticism of him is called for, if not in that manner.

Michael, try to remember what its like to be a loser (everyone starts as one), failing at everything you try, being mocked by the greators. Then, remember what it is like to be a so-so (for lack of a better word), anxious for approval.

Think of yourself 5 years ago, or 10, or whenever you were not-so-hot (and you were at some point, we all were.)

Finally, I have to disagree with that guy's remarks about DS/TCPA. Granted, they may put on airs sometimes, but that doesn't mean that they only program for money.

Please excuse the akward phrasing of this post, I'm just trying to make a point without being eloquent.

     12 August 2002, 06:13 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
RCTParRoThEaD_  Account Info
(Web Page)

ME? no. no_one_2000_ takes care of that for me.

     12 August 2002, 13:40 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

What did I do? :( Hey, if you check out the poll for the "Linux TI-GRAPH thing" then you'll see all of my 50+ posts were on-topic. (It's a miracle!) Besides, lord_nightrose told me to stop for a while, so I did.

     12 August 2002, 16:18 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
slimey_limey  Account Info

I told you too (I swore at you, something I very rarely do, ever), and you kept 90% on-topic since then!

     17 August 2002, 06:03 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Oh yeah, I remember that :) lol Remember what I said? Hehe...

     24 August 2002, 20:22 GMT


An apology
connect4

I would like to apologize for my tone in my post last night about Mr. Vincent's comments. Although they were inappropriate, the way I responded kinda was too... especially pulling Detached Solutions into the mix. The people at DS are excellent programmers, and actually do it for free (that's the scary part). So I apologize for my comments about the group and for the rashness of my post, although I do stand by my comments about the need for Mr. Vincent to cool down.

Thank you; hopefully this can end this portion of the debate and get back to discussing Kirk's program.

     12 August 2002, 16:41 GMT

Re: An apology
rmohr02 Account Info
(Web Page)

Yea, Michael's comments are generally on-topic. But he's been around long enough to remember when most comments on the boards were on-topic as well. I no longer read every comment I see, I just scroll through the names, and read the comments by people with names I recognize.

     12 August 2002, 22:48 GMT


Re: Re: An apology
slimey_limey  Account Info

Prejudice!!!

     17 August 2002, 06:01 GMT


Re: Re: Re: An apology
Halfmoon Account Info
(Web Page)

So do I...

     19 August 2002, 00:02 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: An apology
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

You DO? Oh well, you can read mine now... except for that h00ters string up there.. haha that's pretty funny actually.

     24 August 2002, 20:23 GMT


Re: An apology
Halfmoon Account Info
(Web Page)

<WEIRDNESS LEVEL="HIGH">Mr.</WIERDNESS> Vincent?

     19 August 2002, 00:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Guys, calm down! It's a freaking "first post!" You don't need to fight over it!

     12 August 2002, 16:19 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
BullFrog  Account Info
(Web Page)

How does it go? "Cast the beam out of thine own eye first..."

Everyone post off-topic posts. Especially me. No one on this earth is perfect. There was only one person who was. So you can't expect people to post on-topics 24/7 or what kind of discussion would that be? I think it would be pretty boring. There needs to be the occasional off-topic poster. Such as calcdrone as lsvllhs15 or whatever. Anyway, enough ranting.

     13 August 2002, 16:42 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Is that quote King James or something? thine? (I had enough trouble with Romeo and Juliet)

     13 August 2002, 17:17 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
Charlemagne Account Info
(Web Page)

Luke 6:41-42 (NIV)
"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,' when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."

     13 August 2002, 18:34 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
BullFrog  Account Info
(Web Page)

Thanks. I knew it was something like that.

And no_one_200_, it was from King James. Well, his version of the bible. Or whatever.

     14 August 2002, 00:53 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Yeah, I can't read that version, it's WAY too hard, in fact, I'm not that good of a reader anyway.

     14 August 2002, 01:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
RCTParRoThEaD_  Account Info
(Web Page)

I got a D in english because i was staring at a girl's @ss & b00b!s the whole time.

     14 August 2002, 04:53 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

HA! Really? That's so funny! Did she (the girl, I mean) notice?

     14 August 2002, 18:23 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
Elijah McNeish  Account Info

I like the King James. NIV sucks. Was she hot, RCT?

     14 August 2002, 19:34 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

RCT? Was she hot? *pant, pant*... um... oops...

     14 August 2002, 20:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
RCTParRoThEaD_  Account Info
(Web Page)

no, she was fat and ugly and looked like your mom... what do you think?

     15 August 2002, 20:01 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

*cry* My mommy isn't fat! Waaaaaa!!! *cry*

     16 August 2002, 16:29 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
Joe Blow  Account Info

oh! fat and ugly huh?!? I hate it when I'm caught staring at them!

     19 August 2002, 02:01 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

... and looked like my mom!?

     24 August 2002, 20:24 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
acr34  Account Info
(Web Page)

A little enthusiasim (or spelling;) never hurt anyone. Granted, posts such as this are annoying, but you could be a little gentler.

I remember some rather annoying things I've done in excitement.

Don't let it go to your head.

     12 August 2002, 06:07 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
ac

Don't insult or flame other people in your comments. Keep such sentiments to private email, or better yet, avoid them completely." - Violated (you are insulting all the mature people who came here for serious calculator discussion).
You wern't just flaming him, were you?

     12 August 2002, 19:04 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
Joe Blow  Account Info

Since when would someone not scream "FIRST POST" on network television? and how does saying W00T insult mature people? (if anything it would be the mature people who would not be insulted by that)
I think you need to take your head out of your @$$!!!
He and other people were having fun. This is the only place on ticalc.org where we can do that. If you don't want that, have someone set up a chat room on this site or something.

     19 August 2002, 01:59 GMT

Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Hey Guys, I got a question for all of you about C for the TI-89 and TI-92+

Alright, PLEASE answer me if you know...

Because I'm VERY confused here...

Okay, in a program, when sending variables from 1 calculator to another,

there are two functions SendCalc and GetCalc, how should I use these to send back and forth bytes, in a program? On one, do I need to use SendCalc and on the other GetCalc? Or do I just need to use one? I'm REALLY confused, because the documentation doesn't really give any help. PLEASE, PLEASE! Help me!

     13 August 2002, 17:13 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
Charlemagne Account Info
(Web Page)

I know this for 83+.
Getcalc recieves a var (let's say X) and stores it to the receiver's X. It tries once and if it fails, it fails. The sending calc must be paused or inactive, not busy. For example:
Repeat X=[whatever you are waiting for]
GetCalc(X
End
I don't know about Send calc.
However, OmniCalc for 83+ has a function that keeps waiting for a byte...

     13 August 2002, 18:38 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Okay, thanks, but I still don't understand the SendCalc() and it's purpose. I guess I'd just have to play with the functions until I understand them better.

     14 August 2002, 18:24 GMT

Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
Elijah McNeish  Account Info

Hey, RCT! n00b! ;) j/k... When's your blue LCD program coming out? Anyway, this program looks cool. Although I only have a 92, 86, and 82, hehe. Must...get...Voyage...200... Ok, I'll stop acting like an idiot now. w00t!

     13 August 2002, 21:22 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

He's not really a n00b, because he's been here for a while...
His Blue LCD proggy was released quite a while back, you'll just have to search for it ;-)
I want a Voyage 200 also (hope my mom hears that and she buys me one... yeah right)

     14 August 2002, 01:53 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
RCTParRoThEaD_  Account Info
(Web Page)

thank you to no one (except no_one).

     14 August 2002, 04:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

LOL every_one makes jokes about my name. :)

     14 August 2002, 18:25 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
Elijah McNeish  Account Info

Ok, calm down, RCT is a friend, I was just kidding...

     14 August 2002, 19:56 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Huh? :)

     14 August 2002, 20:56 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
RCTParRoThEaD_  Account Info
(Web Page)

he is.

     15 August 2002, 20:03 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Um... is this actually making sense to anyone?

     16 August 2002, 16:30 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
Elijah McNeish  Account Info

Makes sense to me. <WHISPER>Who wants to start a PYRAMID!? Hehe, j/k..</WHISPER>

     16 August 2002, 23:09 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

<WHISPER>
*yells*
</WHISPER>

     17 August 2002, 01:09 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
Joe Blow  Account Info

why would I want to make a PYRAMID?

     19 August 2002, 02:05 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
Joe Blow  Account Info

it does not make sense to me

     19 August 2002, 02:06 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
Joe Blow  Account Info

he is what?

     19 August 2002, 02:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
Joey Gannon  Account Info
(Web Page)

Don't get a V200... I won one from TI, and I should have gotten the CBL2 instead. It's just about the same as the 89, aside from the QWERTY keyboard, oversized archive (3.7MB, very little of which can be used for things other than APPs), and its incredible bulkiness. There's nothing wrong with it, it's just that an 89 is a better investment. On a side note, did anyone notice who posted this news article? Andy's back! PARADE! (::sigh:: It never seems to get old.)

     14 August 2002, 18:41 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

"Posted by Andy"... who's Andy? Is Eric still there?

     14 August 2002, 20:57 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
Joey Gannon  Account Info
(Web Page)

Andy Selle was one of the original staff members on the site, and he has ID #1.

     15 August 2002, 22:08 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Oh, wait, I heard about him somewhere before. Okay :)

     16 August 2002, 16:31 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
Kirk Meyer  Account Info
(Web Page)

Voyage is a lot better than a TI-92 Plus. But if you wanted small size, then it's obviously not for you. You should've sold it. That's what I did with the one I won.

     14 August 2002, 21:26 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Really? You won one (that sounds funny when you say it)? I wouldn't have sold it, but that's my opinion--well, it's not an opinion, but... *runs away*

     15 August 2002, 03:23 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

See, what I meant was... I meant... I mean... it's not really... um... *runs away again*

     15 August 2002, 18:06 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
Kirk Meyer Account Info
(Web Page)

Well, maybe I would've kept it, except I already had a prototype Voyage 200 that TI had sent me earlier. And besides, how many calculators does a person really need?

     16 June 2005, 02:34 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
Joey Gannon  Account Info
(Web Page)

I'm still thinking I will sell it. I could use the cash, and I still have an 89. If I buy one of those TI keyboards when they come out, I'll have something that is almost as good as a V200, and I'll have another $100 or so in the bank. Kirk, how did you sell yours? eBay, perchance? How much did you get for it? Congrats on your win, by the way. TI needs more contests like that. :o)

     15 August 2002, 22:13 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
Elijah McNeish  Account Info

I have about $93. Would you sell it to me once I get a few more bucks. You don't even have to include the cable.

     16 August 2002, 23:31 GMT

Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Um... does anyone know where Eric is (eric@ticalc.org)? Is he on vacation?

     16 August 2002, 21:03 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Aahh, drat. He left. :(

     24 August 2002, 20:25 GMT


Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Fast 3D Grapher TI-83+
benryves Account Info
(Web Page)

Hey hey, a *decent* and *fast* 3d grapher.
(Unlike the TI-Basic one on the Res. CD)
w00t!

     4 September 2002, 14:20 GMT

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