4. People here have varying levels of skill and experience. If someone asks a simple question, don't punctuate your answer with things like, "I can't believe

you don't know that" or "Come on, you're joking, right?". This is a major turn-off for promising new programmers.

5. If you're one of the 'famous' programmers (Kirk Meyer, Thomas Nussbaumer, and the like)... Don't act high-and-mighty. Not that you all do, of course...

but when you post, please remember that you started out as a newbie at some point yourself. Just because your name has become a common appearance on TICalc,

it doesn't give you the right to treat others like they're lower than you (*ahem* Michael Vincent *ahem*).

OK, ok... I shouldn't have picked on you alone... but your comment about 'barbaric and childish behavior' was the major reason I wrote this long post in the

first place.

So please, people... I'm sure if we all did our best to follow these rules (as well as TICalc's, of course), we'd find ourself in a much friendlier, much

more productive forum environment. For all of our sakes... I hope we do... because the last three or four months has seemed like the death throes of a dying

forum here at TICalc... with all the insulting or wasteful posts driving the final nail in the coffin...

and PolarDPres, your comment was out of line as well.

...and there is silence

yeah, no sarcastic comment to make to that one.

Yes looking back, I was out of line.
And everyone else should look back at this entire set of comments, very few are on target, including mine, including this one, most are centered on the first one, bragging how it is a first post, and heres my new idea, ignore those who post off subject, don't give them any attention, and they will stop posting off subject. Sorry to anyone who I may have offended.

Well spoken!

I've noticed that most of the great programmers (i.e. Patrick Davidson, Kirk Meyers, Thomas Nussbaumer) are the ones that don't give insulting comments, etc. My hats off to you guys.

Yeah, Michael Vincent could learn from them. ;^|)

Well since my attempt to shame the trolls into silence seems to have no support, I apologize for my attacking you. If you'll recall though, you did once say that you would stop flooding the boards. I have yet to see that.

I didn't say i would stop, just slow down a bit. Uhh-oh, i left the bathtub running. Sorry if it floods the boards!

I would appreciate it if you did stop. Yes, you are technically free to say whatever you wish, and nothing the average poster does can stop you... but it gets annoying after a while and turns people against you. As fun as it may seem to post goofy stuff all the time, you'd be surprise how people react to an uncommon show of maturity.

Yes, my lord. I shall stop. GO TO MY SITE!!!

heh... don't call me that...
I went to your site... I joined your group... I ate your soul... wait, forget that last part. You don't need to know that... yet.

I went to your site and joined your group as well. But now I am going to sue you because you misrepresented my programming skills on the member page causing me emotional pain and suffering. Well, not really. I only know that you misrepresented my skills in the first place because some random kid IMed me with a question about 83+ asm, which I know nothing about. So since I didn't really know about this misrepresentation myself until someone unknowingly pointed it out to me, I guess I shouldn't really bother you about it.

Skip the above paragraph and read this one if you want my post to appear to be on-topic:

Good job Kirk, your program serves two useful purposes. First one: its intended purpose of graphing 3D on the 83+. Second: showing TI (again) that an unpaid programmer can write a program that is faster than their version, even running on a slower calc. There are many other cases where a user-written program does something faster than the TI-OS, the first one coming to my mind is TICT's ExtGraph Library. One would think that TI would see all of these examples of how inefficient their code is and optimize it. However, we live in a world run by money, and the slower parts of the TI-OS do not seem to be affecting sales so I doubt TI will put much effort into it. Also, I read somewhere (correct me if I'm wrong) that calculator sales make up less than 5% of TI's income every year, giving them even more reason not to bother with optimizations. Anyway, TI still has done a great job with their calcs, and their dominance in the market shows it, so they're obviously doing something right.

well, not necessarily an unpaid programmer... just one who isn't paid specifically to program :-)

you never know, he might flip burgers somewhere in his spare time. not that you couldn't do better, Kirk, I'm sure you can... it was just a suggestion :-D

I have a feeling that someone who can program as well as Kirk could find a better job than flipping burgers. Unless he's still in school, then that would be an OK job.

I want a job EATING burgers, not flipping them!

that's what I intended to say :-p

Well, I knew what you meant :D

I think it's less than 1% actually...

I'd join, if I wasn't bussy with my own group.
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Actually, the real reason you never see them flame anyone is because they don't visit ticalc.org let alone frequent the comment section.