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Creating the Ultimate GUI

Posted on 8 September 1998

The following text was written by Philip Gossling:

Here are some ideas I thought up over the past year that I would love to see in future GUI shells for the TI-86. Your eyes will also be entertained by the cool screen shots I've included! :-) I actually tried making a GUI with the ideas below, but I wasn't as good at ASM then, so I quit the project, and now I'm too busy! So I'm throwing out my ideas to anyone who will take the bait :-)

[Practical User
Input]
[Practical User Input]

1. PRACTICAL USER INPUT. A shell on a calc should be built with a calculator keypad in mind, not a mouse. My shell would use no mouse pointer. F1 would always be the Start menu. F2-F5 would be the categories of programs, with F2 being the Desktop (the first screen you see when starting the program), and then Games, Math and Utilities. The arrow keys move a highlighting bar that highlights the programs, and 2nd runs the selected program. Key input in the shell should be simple and fast, with nothing that wouldn't really be feasible for a calculator.

[Icons]
[Icons]

2. ICONS. Lets face it, icons are cool. So far these have only been experimented with in Aurora, which was too slow and impractical. Icons however can still work on a calculator. If I remember right, Aurora used 8x8 sprites placed above the program name. This wasn't very smart. This layout just doesn't work on the 86 screen very well. However, If you make the icons 7x7 sprites and place them to the immediate left of the program name, you can fit lots of prgm names on one screen. You could also have the screen scroll down to fit more programs. The shell should also have a built in icon editor that would attach the icons to a program, so icon files wouldn't clutter the RAM. Icons should be able to be attached and detached from files. If a program has no icon with it, the shell should provide it with a temporary built in icon according to the file type. The shell should also have a small icon library so users can choose from pre-maid icons that they can assign to variables. Users could also add their own designs to the library. Now wouldn't that be awesome :-)

[Start Bar]

3. START BAR. Notice the Windows-like Start Bar at the bottom of the screen in the shell screenshots. You'll notice it displays different info in each screen shot. This is an interesting concept I came up with. The bar could be personalized to have quick jumps to categories using the F2-F5 keys, show a clock, the Free RAM, the date (if a clock was made), and more, maybe even a special welcome message. If you want to do some quick calculations and stay in the shell, then press F1(Start) and select the Calculate icon to do some math, and the start bar will remain on the bottom of the screen, allowing you to stay in the shell and run progs quickly. The math you could do would be limited though. If Windows add-on programs were created for the shell, they could leave the start bar on the screen and just display the program output above the bar.

4. TIME CLOCK. I think this is possible to do, though I don't know exactly how it would keep accurate time when running an assembly program. If it was done, you could display the date, have calendars, and have schedule programs, etc. Maybe even a calculator-based student planner. You could also change APD settings or see how long a program would take to run....(just some ideas).

[Explorer]

5. EXPLORER. A Windows explorer for a calculator? I though this shell was supposed to be practical! An explorer would be a great addition to the future GUI shells. My concept (see screenshot) is called RAM Explorer. It allows you to view, delete, and get info on EVERY TI variable in the RAM (not just programs). By clicking on the RAM icon, you can see all the variables, displayed on the right, and info about the RAM (mem free, etc.). You can move these files into folders that you create to organize them. How will folders work? Easy! My concept of a folder is simply a TI string variable with a header that lets the shell know its a folder. Then after the header, the string contains the names of all the files in the folder. The shell then searches for these files and displays them! The RAM Explorer can be personalized to show TI variable's built in icons (see icon screenshots) or variable type (as shown in screenshot above) or variable size, or both. You can also use the STO-> key to move variables or folders to other folders or the category folders like the Desktop. Explorer would also have a built in linking program so you could receive stuff or send whole folders' contents to other calcs. Also, when receiving a huge program with tons of sub-programs and variables (like many TI-BASIC games), the Explorer will automatically create a folder (if you want) that contains all the variables downloaded. Then if you hate the program and want to erase it, you just delete the folder. No more will you have to search through 98k for all the variables the program used to be sure its all out of the ram! Talk about useful! Talk about cool!

[String Viewer and
Editor]

6. STRING VIEWER AND EDITOR. (This is what the Notepad program is for) The GUI should have the ability to view strings in a window in menu-text and provide the ability to edit the string or create a new string with menu-text. There would also be formatting characters like the new-line character. With icons added to the strings you could personalize them, like make help files, etc.

7. EMULATION. The GUI has to have emulation for the TI-82, TI-83 and TI-85. This is the standard was set by ASE and Rascall, and should definitely be included in all future shells. The shell should assign icons to emulated programs.

8. COMPRESSION. The ability to compress and uncompress strings and programs.

9. WINDOWS PROGRAMS. The Ability to create programs that will run as if they were integrated into the interface. They will run in windows, and the start bar will remain on the screen. This is simple to do, but the program's output must be above the start bar and the program must have input routines to activate the start bar. You could also give programmers the addresses in the GUI of the time and where other useful info is stored.

10. COMPONENTS. If you want WindowsCE without the Explorer, or without the text editor, or you just want emulation and a desktop, then just erase or add the components you want. The GUI should NEVER have the Explorers and Icon Editors and so on built in. The shell should search for these programs on startup and if they are not there, then the program will still run fine, you just wont have those abilities. This will allow users to customize the size of their shell to fit their needs.

Wouldn't all this stuff in one GUI be huge? Anyone who is knowledgeable in ASM would see that all these things can be accomplished in probably under 10k. And remember about components.

That's All for now. If I come up with anything else I'll update this article. Please post questions, comments, and ideas for what you would like to see in future GUI shells. Also, If anyone wants to create a shell like this (maybe create a programming group) then let me know. I am a good artist and graphic designer who is also knowledgeable in Assembly. I just don't have time with college and a full time job to create a shell like this myself. I will help with art and ideas if you need them.

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Re: Article: "Creating the Ultimate GUI"
Nicholas Lentz

If you are going to do TI-82/83 and TI-85 emulation, then I think that it should support programs larger than 12K, both in the emulator, and TI-86 programs.

Reply to this comment    11 September 1998, 19:25 GMT

Re: Article: "Creating the Ultimate GUI"
Scott
(Web Page)

Why does it have to be GUI to be a shell? YOu people are too wussy. You write hard assembly code to make something so hard to use. Why not make a UNIX or LINUX type shell. Sure, it is harder to use, but it takes almost no space because of the no graphics. Plus because of no graphics it could include some useful utilities that ususally can't be done. It could have a meter that tells you how much power is left in the batteries. It could automatically delete reals, lists, and other things you set it to do. I always delete all my reals and lists, so I really want something like that. It could also have a clock and timer functions. There are so many little handy things you could have just for sacrificing ease of use, if only I knew ASM I would do it. You could delete xstat, ystat, and fstat. You could reset defaults without resetting calculator. You could change which buttons do what just for fun. Also link controls would be cool. How about SND83,82,89,and 92 in addition to SND85? the shell's look would be simple, it wouldn't exist! THe shell shouldn't have a look. It would be like DOS. It could be called COS (Calculator Operating System). Not just a shell. It could replace all the stuff built in to the calc. WHen you start up you get a command prompt like > or : or something. Then there would be commands to do everything. Pressing the Graph button would type graph and press return automatically and open up the graph program. Why not abuse the power and let this thing take over the whole calculator. Sure it would be harder to use by a lot, but it wont be impossible. And it will make your calculator much more powerful.

Reply to this comment    11 September 1998, 21:19 GMT


Re: Re: Article: "Creating the Ultimate GUI"
Eric Matthews

It's easy to type at a command prompt with a keyboard, it's not quite so easy with a calculator! I agree, but think about it, typing in all the commands on the calculator would get really old!

Reply to this comment    11 September 1998, 21:51 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Article: "Creating the Ultimate GUI"
Daladran

All of this stuff would be nice, but it doesn't take a Linux style os. All of your ideas could be implemented into a GUI.

Reply to this comment    12 September 1998, 19:26 GMT

Re: Article: "Creating the Ultimate GUI"
Adam Newhouse
(Web Page)

Something that I have always wished there was on the TI-86 was the ability to store variable contents to a string, not just an equation variable, and vice versa. Like if there was a string that was "10", you could convert it to a variable that equals 10. If this could store list contents to a string this would be even better.

Reply to this comment    12 September 1998, 03:09 GMT

convertions
Mike Belchak

I know itr doesn't matter a whole lot to you 86 users, but the ti-92 and up already can convert strings to exprestions and vice versa using the commands string() and expr(). Why Wouldn't it be possible on all the other calcs?

Reply to this comment    12 September 1998, 19:43 GMT


Re: convertions
Eric Tollefson

TI-83s also have expr() and several other handy string functions like inString() and sub().

Reply to this comment    9 August 1999, 18:53 GMT


wow
Mike Belchak

I just wanted to say how amazing it is that
this community gets together and produces somthing great! I know of no other calculator that has such a cultish following of loyal subjects. I would attribute the success of the ti calcs to the fact that they cam communicate with computers. Think about it. no other calc community does what we do.

Reply to this comment    12 September 1998, 20:00 GMT

Re: Article: "Creating the Ultimate GUI"
Chris

Battery Power meter in the menu bar or somewhere on the main screen is a must. I hate always having to run sysmon to find battery power. This would probably be difficult, but how about making a gui for dumb people to play games, and including a command prompt to satisfy all the people that like using dos. When you make your text editor, you should make some kind of program that can convert *.txt files into the editor files. This would make it possible to download something like one chapter of a book a day, and then download the next when you are done. Try to make something that would allow you to put your name at the top, or something like "Property of Blah Blah Blah"
There is a lock mem routine in Rascall, you might ask scabby how he did it. 10k is no problem, and this is the best thing I've heard in a while. Go phillip!

Reply to this comment    13 September 1998, 05:17 GMT


battery Power
Matt

hey, the easiest way to check battery power is to see what you current contrast setting is,,,, as soon as you reach seven for normal viewing, your batteries need replacing.. all the battery meters do is see what your contrast level is and give you an indicator based upon that number.... dont waste your real estate for battery monitoring...

Reply to this comment    14 September 1998, 04:41 GMT


Re: battery Power
Matt (a different one :)

Actually, SystemMonitor by Kirk Meyer does something else (what, I don't know...) to determine the battery level...


-- Matt

Reply to this comment    6 January 1999, 04:32 GMT


Re: Re: battery Power
brentes
(Web Page)

You're right... I've looked at the source code and it does use something different. Everyone download it and look.

Reply to this comment    5 September 1999, 05:17 GMT

Re: Article: "Creating the Ultimate GUI"
Levi

Great idea this GUI!!
How about you give me a tip! How can I make icons appear in the menu window??
Mail me please!
Ps: Where can I find a book (English or Portuguese) that explains how to program in Assembly . I know a litttle bit os Basic, but...it's limited!
Thank you!!


Levi

Reply to this comment    14 September 1998, 00:00 GMT

Re: Article: "Creating the Ultimate GUI"
dave

hey, i don't wanna rain on anyone's parade, and don't get me wrong, all these ideas are great, but realistically...IT'A CALCULATOR!!!

Reply to this comment    14 September 1998, 01:49 GMT

Re: Re: Article: "Creating the Ultimate GUI"
Eric Matthews

Yes, it's just a calculator. This is just a website, I'm just using a computer. Without the creations of this kind of stuff... where would we be? Did you think that same thing a couple years ago.. "it's just the Internet"? Think about it..

Reply to this comment    14 September 1998, 12:29 GMT

Re: Re: Article: "Creating the Ultimate GUI"
Anchal Nigam

Remember once comps used to be really big. This people making to progs are just using the power of the 86 and are helping show what America has the power to creat. I mean I would'nt knid having a computer better then the one I am typing on in my pocket. Would You.

Reply to this comment    23 September 1998, 22:38 GMT

Re: Re: Article: "Creating the Ultimate GUI"
Anchal Nigam

Remember once comps used to be really big. These people making to progs are just using the power of the 86 and are helping show what America has the power to create. I mean I would'nt knid having a computer better then the one I am typing on in my pocket. Would You.

Reply to this comment    23 September 1998, 22:39 GMT


Re: Re: Article: "Creating the Ultimate GUI"
Eric Brookins
(Web Page)

People thinking outside fo the box and finding new and inavative ways to do stuff is how we advance in our computer abilites. Think about it. When you are using a calculator, you are using the shell that TI made. All we want to do is make a better one.

Reply to this comment    22 January 1999, 01:49 GMT

Re: Article: "Creating the Ultimate GUI"
Stephane Cocquereaumont

This is a great idea !

I have an OS for the HP48, you can take more infos on http:\\www.mygale.org/11/shellos

But this soft have taka a *very* long time to be created, this is a very hard job !

Good Luck !

Stehane

Reply to this comment    21 September 1998, 10:33 GMT

Re: Article: "Creating the Ultimate GUI"
Anchal Nigam

It is excelent. What you have chosen to add is a good idea. 10 k not that much. That would leave 80 k or so for games, more then enough. Keep working.

Reply to this comment    23 September 1998, 22:34 GMT

Re: Article: "Creating the Ultimate GUI"
The Man
(Web Page)

I think all the stupid monkeys who think they konw how to program should shut up and let the man do his stuff. If your so good at programming then make your own fucking Shell the way you want it. Untill you can do that just shut the fuck up.

Reply to this comment    24 September 1998, 07:16 GMT


Re: Re: Article: "Creating the Ultimate GUI"
Orion

THANK YOU for telling it like it is man. I am really tired of all of these people ranting about a shell for the TI-89 and how it is so much better of a calc than the 86. GIVE IT A REST. If it's so much better than someone would make a great shell for it so you could shut the hell up!

Reply to this comment    27 September 1998, 00:07 GMT

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