From just looking at the organizer app for the 84+SE from the 84silver.com site, it seems to be exactly like the 83+SE version... Does it mean TI is too lazy to add the clock in the organizer app for the 84+SE to automatically update the date in the calendar?

Just confirmed that they are the same app...

see link

Maybe they'll release a new version that adds this functionality...?

i doubt it...

the organizer app is preloaded with the 84+SE

Then someone will just have to write a better one...

I got the ti-84+ and its the same as the regular 83+. The only differences is memory, the clock, and the speed, but all in all they are basically the same.

That is what I said when ticalc.org first posted that TI was developing them. I'm not going to get it and wait for the 89 Titanium (TI's best calculator).

Yeah, the 89 titanium will be great. Kick stand, USB, more memory... plus all the great things about the original 89, like the amazing AMS, 68K processor, high-level programming capabilities... drool............

Yeah...don't waste money on an 84. Get the new 89...that's what I'm doing, like I said earlier.

uhhh.... isn't everynoe???? I personally think TI should of made a better calc... I mean, a clock isn't much and USB isn't either

*everyone

They never meant to make a *better* calc, just something to replace the 83+.

Hi. I would agree with those of you who wants the TI-89 Titanium. I have both the TI-86 and the original TI-89, and, I would like to buy a TI-89 Titanium whenever it comes out. Well, I'll tell you why (whether it's major or minor reason or whatever it is):

The TI-89 boasts about 3x more Flash ROM than the orignal 89 (would the speed be the same or faster?), a very nice USB port built in, and an internal clock/date built in, also. Wonder when it'll actually be out? I'm dying to wait for and buy one! (Even if it's going to cost about $150 to $160). But man... The TI-89 Titanium is going to be as powerful as the Voyage 200, don't you think? (but in a smaller case! :) )

Anything else I've been missing out? I'm a newbie to this, so this is my first post.

I already have a V200, and I doubt I'll have much luck convincing my parents to get a TI-89Ti. I think I'll just wait until they figure out that V200s aren't going to be allowed on standardized tests, then ask them for the latest version of the TI-89Ti... :D

Unfortunatly, the Up and Down keys are physically connected now.

I know someone who has it, in fact I emailed Ticalc.org yesterday to tell them it was released ^_^

Is it possible to press both at once?

If so, that could be a problem. Why would they connect the arrow keys?

'cause they can.

it could be worse, it could be a joystick

LOL --- now THAT would be terrible.

could be good for games, easily incorporate multiple angles

Maybe it would be possible to make a joystick that conects to the link port. THAT would be cool; but would look pretty stupid. Plus, teachers would probably outlaw them.

just say youre tracing curves "more accurately"