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AMS v2.04 for TI-89 and TI-92+ Released
Posted by Eric on 7 June 2000, 23:51 GMT

Reno notified us that TI has recently released the new version of the TI-89/92+ internal software. The new version includes an increased RAM limit for ASM programs (8K to 24K), language improvements, and other enhancements. Download AMS v2.04 for the TI-89 and TI-92+.

Update (Nick): I will say this once and once only:
IF YOU PUT AMS V2.04 ON YOUR CALCULATOR, WE HOLD ABSOLUTELY NO RESPONSIBILITY TO ANY FUNCTIONALITY OF THE PROGRAMS YOU DOWNLOAD FROM THIS SITE. VERY FEW, IF ANY, ASSEMBLY PROGRAMS, WILL PROBABLY WORK. TI HAS BEEN KNOWN TO DECREASE COMPATIBILITY WITH EVERY SINGLE ROM VERSION AND THEIR "ENHANCEMENTS" USUALLY MEAN THAT ASSEMBLY PROGRAM LIMITATIONS HAVE BEEN PUT IN. DO NOT ASK US WHEN AUTHORS WILL PUT IN SUPPORT FOR V2.04: THAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE AUTHORS ALONE.
Thank you. :)

Update (Nathan): Okay, I know everyone's too lazy to do it themselves, so I'll just say that I upgraded to AMS 2.04, and DoorsOS II v0.96 installs, but doesn't work (Address error when trying to run Doors). Patrick Davidson informed us that Universal OS works perfectly under this crazy new AMS version, but only under hardware v1.00. So now you've been warned, and as usual, we don't want to hear about it if your programs don't work. Ask the authors, not us. Thank you. :)

Update Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Nick): I've gotten about six or seven emails that this ROM version in fact does transfer over successfully with a black link. Some people were, however, complaining about speed issues.

Double Update Action (Nick): Matt Baum gave me an email showing a brief list of programs and their functionality under this new AMS. It might be of help to some of you.

 


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Re: AMS v2.04 for TI-89 and TI-92+ Released
Patrick H
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Will AMS 2.03 games work for 2.04?

     7 June 2000, 23:58 GMT

Re: Re: AMS v2.04 for TI-89 and TI-92+ Released
nike  Account Info

Why don't you upgrade and find out? :-)

     8 June 2000, 00:06 GMT


Re: Re: Re: AMS v2.04 for TI-89 and TI-92+ Released
Patrick H
(Web Page)

cuz i don't want to waste an hour and a half of my time...

     8 June 2000, 00:29 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: AMS v2.04 for TI-89 and TI-92+ Released
Amalfi Marini  Account Info

it can take minutes. 10 minutes ago , I put the tigraphlink to work, and now it's at 80%.

     8 June 2000, 07:05 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AMS v2.04 for TI-89 and TI-92+ Released
ColdFusion

Ooooooooohhhhh!!!! 200th comment!!! Hah, how many of you can say you've ever had the 200th comment before?
Oh, and pretty much all TIGCC games in nostub mode work, and if you simply install doors or whatever then even the >24K TIGCC games will run, however, you must use TEOS or Universal OS if you wish to run any pure ASM games on the new AMS.

ColdFusion

     9 June 2000, 22:16 GMT


Catch-22
ZenZagg  Account Info

Catch-22 with any AMS upgrade, programmers will only implement it if a good portion to majority of people are using the new AMS, otherwise it will be seemingly unecessary. Also if the programmers don't implement, then people wont want to upgrade, and therein the catch... people are going to have to sacrifice to make this work, or else 2.03 is the last AMS era of TI-89/92 ASM programming. I blindly upgraded to 2.03 when i first got my calculator only to realize I lost support for many programs later. However it eventually worked out quite well...Restrictions have always induced the most excellent of programming because simply nothing else would suffice for the limitations. I ask that both the TI end-user community and the programmers work together on this problem; bigger obstacles have been overcome in the past. Thank you, :P

     8 June 2000, 10:46 GMT

Re: Catch-22
Jeff Chai  Account Info

There is an easy if not time costly way of figuring out whether AMS 2.04 is compatible with the current 68k Asm programs out now. Do a ROM dump of your calculator usng Virtual TI. This way you'll have a copy of your AMS so you can easily re-FLASH it later. After that, download and send AMS 2.04. Then send you Asm games, programs, kernels, etc. Then check if they work. If they do, yeah. If they don't, oh well. If it dosn't work, run Virtual TI and make sure the link settings (right click on VTI LCD) are right. Then on the emulator, goto the var-link menu. Then goto link and send product code or SW. Then make sure your real calculator is linked too. Then on your real calculator, goto the var-link menu, then Link, only this time goto recieve product code. Then press enter on the recieving calculator (real) and then press enter on the sending calculator (emulator)to begin the ROM transfer. If everything goes well, you've got your old AMS back with no damage at all. The entire process may take a little less than an hour. But if you want to know if it works, you gotta do it yourself! =)

-Jeff Chai

P.S- I'm an AMS 1.05 user, tried AMS 2.03 once, wasn't impressed, got rid of it. =)

     8 June 2000, 21:53 GMT

Re: Catch-22
^Andy  Account Info
(Web Page)

i upgrade to the newest version, regardless if games will work
if my game doesn't work.. then i update
i think it's silly to keep an old version of an os just because a certain program works for it, and if the programmer doesn't update it they're lazy
:)

     9 June 2000, 06:54 GMT


Re: Re: Catch-22
Jeff Chai  Account Info

Old AMS? Silly, Silly, Silly... =) Tanks will work. It's written in C using TI-Gcc. The libraries are supposedly "compatible". =)

     9 June 2000, 21:22 GMT


Re: Catch-22
calcfreak901  Account Info
(Web Page)

calculators manufactured after the release of this ams will include it or its successors, thereby eventually solving the catch-22. there are also those calculator users who prefer mathematics capabilities to games (see the discussions from either a news post or poll about a month ago for some rather heated discussions on this).

nerd#110

     9 June 2000, 23:43 GMT

Re: AMS v2.04 for TI-89 and TI-92+ Released
JaggedFlame

Sorry about that e-mail, Nick, just disregard it, I guess. I sent it to you a minute before this was posted.

Anyway, I think most 2.03 programs should still be compatible, since it's an incremental update.

     8 June 2000, 00:07 GMT

Re: Re: AMS v2.04 for TI-89 and TI-92+ Released
nike  Account Info

Yeah, but I'm going to bet TI put some little tweak in there to prevent our use of the hw2 patch and the maxmem for hw1. Note: These are just assumptions, I'm currently downloading AMS 2.04 to my calculator to test.

     8 June 2000, 00:20 GMT


Re: Re: Re: AMS v2.04 for TI-89 and TI-92+ Released
PsySpy  Account Info

I fell a little dumb....what is HW version 1 and 2 and how do i find out what version i have...i have 2.03 and like it and proly will keep it......but until the end of finals i need what i got and know ho wto use.....

PsySpy the Chosen

     10 June 2000, 02:45 GMT

Re: Re: AMS v2.04 for TI-89 and TI-92+ Released
Nick Disabato  Account Info
(Web Page)

Yeah, I've been debugging a new scanner I just procured.

Good call, Eric. Way to keep on the ball.

--BlueCalx

     8 June 2000, 00:23 GMT


Re: Re: Re: AMS v2.04 for TI-89 and TI-92+ Released
JaggedFlame

Cool... you say 'procured'... as in bought? Or 'something else'? ;-P

     8 June 2000, 01:01 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: AMS v2.04 for TI-89 and TI-92+ Released
Nick Disabato  Account Info
(Web Page)

Bought, stole, nipped, wrested.. whichever. :)

--BlueCalx

     8 June 2000, 01:38 GMT

Re: Re: AMS v2.04 for TI-89 and TI-92+ Released
JaggedFlame

Uh... then again there was the 1.01 -> 1.05 compatibility thing... so what I said might or might not be true.

     8 June 2000, 00:59 GMT


Re: Re: AMS v2.04 for TI-89 and TI-92+ Released
calcfreak901  Account Info
(Web Page)

i'm not willing to risk it at this point
my finals start tomorrow and i need my progs!

--nerd#110
--future martian

     8 June 2000, 01:49 GMT


Re: Re: Re: AMS v2.04 for TI-89 and TI-92+ Released
JaggedFlame

Yeah, that's what I'm doing... besides, most of my math programs are in assembly, believe it or not. :-)

     8 June 2000, 01:53 GMT

Re: AMS v2.04 for TI-89 and TI-92+ Released
Sebastian Reichelt  Account Info
(Web Page)

Sounds good to me. I wonder if the archived functions bug is fixed.

     8 June 2000, 00:07 GMT

Re: Re: AMS v2.04 for TI-89 and TI-92+ Released
JaggedFlame

I tried it in VTI, and I think it is fixed.

Yay! :-)

     8 June 2000, 01:46 GMT


Re: Re: AMS v2.04 for TI-89 and TI-92+ Released
timcl  Account Info

sorry... this may be a stupid question, but what is the archived functions bug?

"i need someone else's glasses"

     10 June 2000, 03:08 GMT

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