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Re: Is math your primary focus in school?

Andy Janata
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Calculus 2 hates me. It hates me so much that it failed me the first time around. Don't worry, it's mutual. It's not a prerequisite for anything but the piece of paper...

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3 March 2006, 12:31 GMT

















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Rob van Wijk

No it is not. To learn something you have to practice it. If the only way you can solve a problem is with a calculator, then you don't understand the problem (regarding the "3^23 * 7^9"; you don't *want* to perform the full calculation by hand, but you know how you'd do it if you had to).
In dutch high schools (for 'translation' purposes, that is where students are usually 12 to 18 years old), we started using graphing calcs about 7 or 8 years ago. Students also got a booklet with formula (so they didn't have to memorize all of them). It has now become painfully clear that the graduates from that new systems (even the ones wanting to study Applied Mathematics, Computer Sciences, Physics or Electrical Engineering!) don't know enough math for their university courses; they have to use a bloody calc for everything. Sure, they get answers if you allow them to use a calc, but without a calc they're helpless. They lack insight in what they're doing (they'll write down answers with are many others of magnitude of, instead of instinctively knowing something went wrong.
Believe me, if you want to be good at math, you'll have to practice a lot. Except for some statistical stuff and regression formulas, you should be able to do anything a TI83 can do by hand. Once you trully understand it I couldn't care less if you want to use a calc (or Mathematica for that matter), but first you have to understand and master it yourself. For if you don't know how to do 83level stuff by hand (say, for instance, rrefing a matrix), you'll be way out of your leagua when you get to Mathematica/MatLab/Maplelevel maths (rrefing a matrix where each element is a complex, rational polynomial for instance).

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12 March 2006, 16:59 GMT


Re: Is math your primary focus in school?

Patrick Stone
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Math isn't my primary focus, but since I am in the end of my second year for Mechanical Engineering, Math is a must. So far, Calc 1, Calc 2, Calc 3 and Linear Algebra (not as easy as it sounds). Next comes Differential Equations and possibly Discrete Math. So, by the time I am done, I will only need two math credits to qualify for a minor in math, which I may or may not do. It isn't that I love math, it usually just comes easy to me.

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3 March 2006, 14:22 GMT





Re: Re: Is math your primary focus in school?

madmattd

Yea, MEs do exist here!
Yes, Math certainly is required for ME degree, my college requires Calc 1,2,3, Multivariable(just finished, yea!), DiffEq, Matrices and BVP, and Engineering Stats, which will probably be the easiest of them all. So I dont know where this would fall on the survey, I'll figure it out and vote.

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3 March 2006, 16:06 GMT











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Steven Ford

i totally agree w/ you, im a freshman in highschool and taking geometry, i always make programs to help me w/ certain things, like cordinate geometry and stuff, but i make them all as functions on the v200, and im the only kid in my math class with a v200, so i cant give them to anyone, but i could always make them for the 83+, there was this one time in 7th grade where me and one of my friends were trying to see who could create the best math program for Math C, we came up with some pretty cool programs, but they all got lost over the years through unexpected ram clears and crashes. but programming is a great tool for math, and math is a great tool for programming, i can honestly say that doing programming has given me great advanteges in math and vice versa. Besides, its always nice to be able to make games in math class when you are bored. Tons of people think computer programmers are nerds and dont realize that without them, society would be nowhere

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4 March 2006, 05:12 GMT


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