isn't this the ratio in greek architecture for the perfect ratio of the height of a wall and the length of it?

yea, thats what i always thought it was. i remember reading it in on of my math books.

We've learned about it not only in math, but in history. Apperently, the ratios of body parts in Greek sculptures approximates to Phi. They considered people with this ration to be the most beautiful people.

I learned the same thing in math class. We measured people and discovered who was the most beautiful.

we also used it in math. and 1/phi is the final grade of someone in our class.

My math teacher went to the extreme of making squares with the golden ration as a design for his dining room when he remodled his house. Some people are really extreme with their careers I guess.

Yeah. And then there are the teachers who don't even go over it and i guess they don't think we'll understand

I don't think my math teachers think it's important -- like the last few chapters of the Geometry book.

Maybe mr. D went through the book too slow. All the other classes learned them.

I've never finished a math book since 4th grade when I did two in one year.

1.618...
Looks like I'm not much of a geek after all. :'(

Phi=1.618033988749...
phi=0.618033988749...
Additionally, integers can be expressed as terminating decimals in base Phi (using 0 & 1 as digits, since it is between 1 & 2) - for example, 1.01 (base Phi)=2 (base ten (the word so no one wonders in what base 10 is written)).

I suppose that should have been "phigitals," not "decimals," which makes 0 & 1 the phigits.

Nested parentheses...yum...

I like LISP, & my mathematical formulas are also often nested-parentheses ridden (I even once got 3 levels (if I remember correctly) in a paper I turned in for English). If you care, there is a programming language (called RANDY'S Notation) on my web page that uses only parentheses, & an interpreter for it for Windows 9X & above & the TI-89/92+/V200.

heh...i love these kind of conversations --just listening to it makes me smarter (IQ+10)

(PS: i have no idea about this and would love to learn more....could someone recomment a web site reference?)

Hate to be rude, but perhaps you will find this useful in the future (click on web link).

HAHAHAHA!!! That's GREAT!!! It's so true too...whenever I have a question, I just google it...usually finds the answer within the first 3 sites... ;)

unless you happen to be looking for 83+ ROM images... not that i am speaking from personal experience or anything

That you don't NEED to google...just email TICares....

I tried recently... I think they changed their policy because the only thing they told me was that TI does not provide roms and the SDK is superior to all emulators

You can get 83+ ROM images from the TI download site (called the TI store or somesuch crap). They're in some kind of hex format, so I don't know if emulators can use them (some people claim they can, but I couldn't get VTI to read one).

That would be the operating system, not the ROM

What is the difference? VTI can run TI-89/92+ OS upgrades just fine.

The OS is contained in the ROM image.

I thought the ROM was contained in the OS..

Actually, the OS is contained in the ROM chips, as is the ROM image, & the 2 are (maybe) identical. The chips, however, contain additional address decoding & control logic.

googled "phi" just to see what it would say...first thing, in big bold letters (I mean it...they were big AND bold...try it and see for yourself :P ):
"the golden ratio = 1.61803399"

It's also the stock symbol for the Philippine Long Distance Telephone Co. Right now they're at 25.90 per share. It looks like it might be a good investment at the moment. :)

See link or:
http://pi.lacim.uqam.ca/ eng/records_en.html