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Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Mislav Bilobrk  Account Info

Yes, ofcourse!
Do they (@TI) get paid by Microsoft(R) for releasing software fow Windows(R)? Or Apple!?
I doubt!
Does every TI-7x/8x/92 calc user have to pay $100-200 for OS on his PC just to be able to use linking program made by TI? Why should we?!?
I believe Linux is worth of their attention.
PS.
I am The First to vote here,
so I am to blame for 100% YES answers (as for now)

Reply to this comment    7 August 2002, 17:16 GMT

Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Nick Johnston  Account Info
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I am the 5th to vote and I broke the 100% Yes answer, I don't care because I have windows ;)

Reply to this comment    7 August 2002, 17:25 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
jtjdt  Account Info
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Why would they need to when the Far Supirior to All TI Made Linking Programs TILP is already out? It Even supports MacOSX and Windows XP for crying out loud. Without screwing around with dll's for Windows XP

Reply to this comment    7 August 2002, 21:00 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Soth  Account Info

What calcs does TILP support and does it run under linux?

Reply to this comment    7 August 2002, 22:10 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
BigRedDog  Account Info
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Most, if not all TI calcs with link ports, and yes, it does run under Linux.

Reply to this comment    8 August 2002, 06:27 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Soth  Account Info

Excellent. Ta for that. I didn't know that TILP was out there for the lesser calcs.

Reply to this comment    8 August 2002, 18:48 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
RCTParRoThEaD_  Account Info
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tilp is wierd and doesn't work for me. Or maybe i just need a graphical GUI with clippy to guide me along...

Reply to this comment    10 August 2002, 22:00 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Haha, clippy. He has to be the most annoying thing ever. He just won't go away.

Reply to this comment    11 August 2002, 20:03 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Soth  Account Info

Okay, I confess, Clippy's why I don't like Windows. (kidding)

Is it me or does that irritating little goit seem to think it knows what you are doing better then you do. I CAN write a letter you I don't need some dumb bit of code to reformat it and tell me my address is wrong.

Reply to this comment    11 August 2002, 21:14 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Yeah, I hate that, it's annoying, that's why I use Corel ;-)

Reply to this comment    12 August 2002, 16:28 GMT


Re: Re: Re... Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Geoffrey Thomas  Account Info
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Last time I payedenough attention to notice, his name was Clippit. Has it changed because practically everyone calls it Clippy?

You might like changing the paper clip to something else. Right-click and do "Change Assistant". Also try "Animate".

Reply to this comment    12 August 2002, 21:44 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re... Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Soth  Account Info

No! we might like to kill it. Along with the sadistic person who created it.

Reply to this comment    12 August 2002, 23:06 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re... Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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LOL YES WE DO! But, he always gets in your way... and he says "Oh, it looks like you're writing a letter!" NO DUH!

Reply to this comment    15 August 2002, 18:17 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re... Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Kuashio  Account Info

1329th comment!
w00t!

Reply to this comment    16 August 2002, 08:30 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re... Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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ARE YOU SERIOUS?

Reply to this comment    25 August 2002, 02:30 GMT


Re... Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
David  Account Info
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Or, just go into the options and permanently disable it. It is very anoying for them to have the Newbie Help System pop up randomly when you don't want it, by default.

Reply to this comment    15 August 2002, 12:36 GMT

Re: Re... Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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You can do that?... I'd rather kill him.

Reply to this comment    15 August 2002, 18:17 GMT


Re: Re: Re... Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Peregrine Account Info
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so why don't you. his animation files and all are seperate, and can be shotgun debugged (ie, write a quickie program to replace random bytes with random data, like blasting lots of holes in it with a shotgun) or deleted.

Reply to this comment    22 August 2002, 08:08 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re... Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Timendus  Account Info
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Hahaha! I think I'll do that some day...

Reply to this comment    2 September 2002, 12:48 GMT


Re: Re... Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
ejona  Account Info

Good job! Someone with some sense! However, I normally never let him touch my computer. I unclick the little box for him along with the Office Bar and Find Fast. I'm not sure about ya'll (so I'm a Texan, so what) but I have never and probably never will use those programs.

Reply to this comment    9 January 2003, 23:54 GMT


Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
WonkoTheSane

I use TILP often, but it's no good for sending anything with a licence attached (TI flash apps or the OS). I have to boot into winbloze and use ti-graph-link for that. It's a shame, since in other respects tilp is the nicer program to use.

Reply to this comment    29 August 2002, 09:57 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Frank A. Nothaft  Account Info

No offense, but that isn't very nice!

Reply to this comment    15 August 2002, 22:56 GMT

Why Bother
PolarDPres Account Info
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Linux definitely needs a cable and software from TI.

Reply to this comment    8 August 2002, 15:27 GMT


Re: Why Bother
roms  Account Info
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TiLP supports ALL link cables and ALL calculators on many platforms...

Reply to this comment    13 August 2002, 11:49 GMT

Re: Why Bother
David  Account Info
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But that isn't made by TI. Linux is growing, and it makes since for TI to offer something for it. I don't use it much because it doesn't like my modem, but I'm going onto a lan soon so hopefully I can get it online.

Reply to this comment    15 August 2002, 12:38 GMT

Re: Re: Why Bother
SHEENmaster  Account Info
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The whole purpose of Open Source Software is that it is open. We have several linking programs, the best of which are tilp and hptalx. Both of them can be installed in Debian GNU/Linux with the command 'apt-get install tilp hptalx'. Why should I waste the time going to TI's site, downloading a tarbal, tar -xzf ing it, coaxing my cat into agreeing to the EULA, etc? I voted no because it isn't needed. The winshit linking program uses win16 APIs, and would probably work in WINE if anyone cared enough to try.

Reply to this comment    18 August 2002, 08:19 GMT


Re: Why Bother
David  Account Info
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I agree. However with that argument, you could also say TI shouldn't bother supporting any OS with their software. Why should Windows alone get special treatment? Most people who are new to this go to TI before looking elsewhere. Because they're the center of attention, they should be supporting as many people as possible. If everyone who bought the link cable knew in the store that they could use it with Linux, it would be better, right?

Reply to this comment    23 August 2002, 01:14 GMT


Re: Re: Why Bother
David Brigada  Account Info
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Most Linux users actually put effort into getting their computer to work with peripherals. There are many resources on tldp.org and on IRC in #linuxhelp (among others) on slashnet and openprojects.net that will help people with this sort of thing. Also, *real* Linux users know the power of a freashmeat or google search. Anyone devoting more than 45 seconds to their TI-Graph Link will know about TILP.

Reply to this comment    30 August 2002, 01:01 GMT


Re: Re: Why Bother
pathfnder

Who cares if the app is made by TI or someone else. So far, most open source apps developed by 3rd parties are far superior to the MS platform ones because the 3rd parties happen to be the actual users, and have a clue as to what is actually needed. There's no doubt in my mind that some programmer who can't spell TI without spellcheck could not come close to the functionality of use as an engineer who uses the stupid thing ALL the time.

Reply to this comment    28 August 2002, 18:38 GMT


Re: Why Bother
David  Account Info
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Well, you obviously didn't read my follow-up post. A newbie customer only knows about what he sees, and TI isn't about to go supporting third party linking programs in place of their own. Also, it's a matter of principle: companies should support their own hardware. This issue involves many more companies than TI. For example, I just bought a Cannon S750 printer, but since Cannon can't be bothered to release Linux drivers, I am going to have to make due with something else. Sure, I'll still be able to print, but I won't be able to align the print heads and do some of the things that the printer is capable of. It's about time companies started acknowledging Linux, regardless if there is better third-party software or not, because sometimes there isnít. The new customer doesnít always know what else is out there, and if the box doesnít say it will work on Linux, they often assume that it wonít (to be safe). How can TI guarantee that it will work on Linux when they are not responsible for the software that ensures that it will?

Reply to this comment    30 August 2002, 00:44 GMT


Re: Re: Why Bother
WonkoTheSane

You're right, it does; but it spits the dummy with licences flash software.

Reply to this comment    29 August 2002, 10:01 GMT

Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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well, I'm sure the Linux people would want it.

just not too many people use it (that I know)

um... okay yeah that's it

Reply to this comment    9 August 2002, 02:15 GMT


Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
andrey montik  Account Info

like nobody has linx everybody has windows i do not think ti should waste its time

Reply to this comment    11 August 2002, 00:53 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Well, that's not totally true, there are a few linux users out there who would like it, but there are PLENTY more Windows users.

Reply to this comment    11 August 2002, 03:02 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Halfmoon Account Info
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I agree - I use Windows, but I'm sure Linux users would be happy (Linux is cool :-b...)

Reply to this comment    12 August 2002, 02:45 GMT

Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
David  Account Info
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There might be more Linux users if more companies started acknowledging that it exists...

BTW, nice poll. I was just thinking the same thing about TI's Linux support. Obviously, I voted "yes".

Reply to this comment    15 August 2002, 12:41 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Ronakbhai

Yes, that's true. I am a Windows 98 SE, Windows XP, MacOS 7.5.3, MacOS X, Linux, and Unix user, and from my experience with all these operating systems, I do firmly believe that MacOS will be taking the lead in the near future. I can't explain, as there is too much to explain, but it incorporates all the operating systems into one, Unix based stability, Apple based ease of use, and now even Windows based software. (face it, most people used windows for the software, and most businesses found initially that IBM could produce home computers capable of linking with their mainframes, whereas Apple could not) Anyways, the point is, whether they make for Linux or not, it doesn't really matter, as there are better operating systems out there. I voted yes that TI should make a Linux version, but I mean, I don't know of many people that use Linux only, and not another operating system, and if they do, then most offen than not, they have not seen MacOS X, as anyone who sees it, will be truly amazed...

Reply to this comment    22 August 2002, 18:59 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Ronakbhai

Pardon, when I said better, I meant popular, but popularity isn't everything. But I lean towards my Unix based systems...

Reply to this comment    22 August 2002, 19:07 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
ericman2000
(Web Page)

I do dual boot XP and Linux. It has worked well for the moment. I have seen OS X and like it, but I had to get a PEECEE out of necesity. My college is 99% pc. Also, the parental units in my home thought it best to have one. I would have got a Mac if I could have, though.

Reply to this comment    25 August 2002, 20:26 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Dan Binder  Account Info

No offense, but Mac is dying. Sure the OS is very stable, but that's because it's so basic.

As for the Linux thing, TI has much more important things to deal with than the .000001% of its customers who use Linux for their calculators. I don't think TI should waste its time, especially if there already is a third-party link program that runs with Linux.

Reply to this comment    26 August 2002, 06:31 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Soth  Account Info

The Mac is NOT dying out.

Reply to this comment    26 August 2002, 21:58 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
ericman2000
(Web Page)

I do find offense in this. When people haphazardly throw opinions on message boards without doing a little homework, it pains me. I find it hard to believe the mac is dying when the user base is expanding as well as the third-party support. It might be a fluke that the mac is showing up in the news a little more often recently, but I think not. It is also interesting that 40% of all visitors to mac stores are Windows users.
PLUS: The mac is not stable because it is basic. Over 20 years of work went into the modern OS. Maybe not all of that work was by Apple, but that does not matter. Mac OS X includes FreeBSD and portions of Next, among other things.

Reply to this comment    27 August 2002, 00:05 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
PolarDPres  Account Info
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OS X is one of the most complex systems out there
I hate uninformed opinions

Reply to this comment    30 August 2002, 01:56 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
nx80129  Account Info

7.5.3? must use an emulator.

Reply to this comment    26 August 2002, 23:05 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
PolarDPres  Account Info
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System 7.5.3 was one of the most stable and best versions of the classic Mac OS, which doesn't include 0S X

Reply to this comment    3 September 2002, 22:33 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Soth  Account Info

Yep thats right! The blind people of this world are a vast minority. Lets put them against a wall and shoot them all. That should save everybodies time. Nice attitude mate!

Reply to this comment    11 August 2002, 12:01 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Frank A. Nothaft  Account Info

I agree with you, if I understood you right.

Reply to this comment    15 August 2002, 23:03 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Soth  Account Info

If you're thinking that my comment was sarcastic - yep spot on. His attitude stinks.

Reply to this comment    15 August 2002, 23:08 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
PolarDPres Account Info
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there are those of us who hate windows and use Macs Instead, but for once, a company has seen the value of the Mac market and not left us out. So no not everybody uses windows. And in the Ti market, a substantial segment uses Linux. So instead of making stupid comments, how about you learn some facts.

Reply to this comment    12 August 2002, 05:45 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Well... you use a Mac. :)

Reply to this comment    12 August 2002, 16:30 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
PolarDPres Account Info
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well I will

Reply to this comment    12 August 2002, 19:22 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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...but on your account info page...

Reply to this comment    15 August 2002, 18:18 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Frank A. Nothaft  Account Info

Mac has always been better in all ways over windows. Also OSX is the best OS ever! MAC RULES!

Reply to this comment    15 August 2002, 23:05 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Frank A. Nothaft  Account Info

Actually, the better OS's are normally Unix based (Linux, Unix, Mac OSX). And even if it is a majority, there are still alot of people using Linux and Mac.

Reply to this comment    15 August 2002, 23:01 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
ericman2000
(Web Page)

Amen.
My WinXP partition had serious psycological issues the day after I installed it. I have a hunch it was windowsupdate. By the way, Win32 users, go there now. No reason, just go there. Anyway, my Linux partition has not had a single problem, since I installed it a week ago. In fact, it has worked better than I expected. I was almost positive I could not use at least some of my hardware, but it detected it all and linux can used it all. WinXP, on the other hand, thinks my ADI SoundMax soundcard is from nVidia. Stupid WinXP! Tux rules!

Reply to this comment    22 August 2002, 00:35 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Ronakbhai

We could go on for years on which operating systems are best, and we could all give examples. The average man does not go around thinking "Gee! I'm wrong! I just know that I'm wrong!", as most people go around with "What is he talking about! I KNOW that I'm right.", so henceforth, same is to operating systems. This is NOT a personal "everybody convert to Mac" opinion, but the truth. If you look at ease of INITIAL use, Mac wins hands down, stability, then you got ALL the Unix based operating systems (Unix, Linux, MacOS X, and NOT Windows NT nor XP, 'cause if they were unix based, then why do I have to reboot the entire freakin' computer everytime I install something? It is definately NOT unix based, no matter what po boy BGates' company says) Macs by far excell in every aspect, just sadly, Microsoft is just a popular company, I mean, every person wants Microsoft, only 'cause it's well known. Ah well, y'all who love Microsoft to death use em, us few "smarter" folks shall utilize true operating systems such as Unix and MacOS...

Reply to this comment    22 August 2002, 19:05 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
rngpop Account Info

ok you're kind of right, they arent unix based but, they do take a page out of the mac book that was based on unix principles. In xp each program has its own little section of memory and isnt let out. that's why you can get 300+ popups and not get a blue screen of death, windows recoginizes the problem and closes off the little boxes, gates never said that he based his entire os on unix. and yes that is a verrry long run on sentence.

Reply to this comment    27 August 2002, 03:31 GMT


Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
David  Account Info
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Be careful about what you download from Windows Update - you might not like the games they're playing with their EULA. See link for more info.

Reply to this comment    30 August 2002, 01:00 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
ericman2000
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Hi. I'm nobody.

Reply to this comment    22 August 2002, 00:26 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Soth  Account Info

Does that mean you're perfect?

Reply to this comment    24 August 2002, 22:33 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
ericman2000
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I suppose it could....

Reply to this comment    25 August 2002, 20:09 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
rav2k3 Account Info

Linux owns Windows anyday!

Reply to this comment    23 August 2002, 17:45 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Dan Binder  Account Info

I agree

Reply to this comment    26 August 2002, 06:32 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Timendus  Account Info
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I really don't understand why the whole world, including me, uses Windows. IT SUCKS.
Is it marketing? Is it compatibility? Is it Microsoft paying companies for only supporting Windows? I don't know, but I do know that every Windows-user hates his own computer. It crashes, gives errors, doesn't start as it's supposed to do, loses data, doesn't detect joysticks, videocards, modems and so on, NEVER EVER does what you want it to do and is incredibly unstable.
Let Gates come up with something new, something WORKING, or admit that his system sucks and release the market to other OS's. That's my vote...

Reply to this comment    2 September 2002, 13:08 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Chivo  Account Info

Amen! I hear ya, brother!

Reply to this comment    8 September 2002, 04:22 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think TI should release a all-calculator linking program for Linux?
Timendus  Account Info
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Thanx.

Reply to this comment    9 September 2002, 15:22 GMT

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