Re: A89: THEY STILL INPLY THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT


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Re: A89: THEY STILL INPLY THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT




TI owns them though...

Bryan

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Martin" <davediego@geocities.com>
To: <assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 1999 12:49 AM
Subject: Re: A89: THEY STILL INPLY THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT


>
> well of course TI didnt make it, softwarehouse did =P
>
> Andrew Magness wrote:
>
> > bah, thats the most ABSURD thing i've ever heard in my life!!!
> >
> > At 11:10 PM 12/2/99 -0800, you wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Thank you for your e-mail.
> > >
> > >Again, this software was not developed by Texas Instruments.  There are
> > >some very bright computer programmers out there.  The disclosure
statement
> > >you copied is a standard disclosure with most TI software downloads.
That
> > >would be simple to copy into a download.  It is possible to write an
> > >application or software that will only support a certain version of the
> > >TI-Graph Link software.
> > >
> > >If you have any further questions or comments please feel free to
contact
> > >us at your convenience. Please copy this message in your response and
send
> > >directly to ti-cares@ti.com for faster service on replies.
> > >
> > >Kind regards,
> > >
> > >John Onufreiczuk
> > >
> >
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > www.ti.com/calc
> > >========================= ORIGINAL MESSAGE ==========================
> > >
> > >[ "Serial" <Serial@Earthlink.net> on 12/2/99 12:25:21 AM ]
> > >
> > >So if Texas Instruments did not make this file why does it show this
before
> > >you may install it?
> > >And Furthur. Why does it require v0.16 Of the flash graphlink beta
clearly
> > >written by Ti to install.
> > >If it was not developed by ti I assume it's made by someone on the
inside
> > >as
> > >cracking a 512-bit rsa key is as close to impossible as finding a
single
> > >spec of dust in the entire universe. You guys simply aren't giving us
the
> > >full story here what's the deal ti?
> > >-start copy-
> > >Texas Instruments License Agreement
> > >By installing this software you agree to abide by the following
provisions.
> > >1.  License: Texas Instruments Incorporated ("TI") grants you a license
to
> > >use and copy the software program(s)  ("Licensed Materials") contained
on
> > >this diskette.  You, and any subsequent user, may only use the Licensed
> > >Materials on Texas Instruments calculator products.
> > >2.  Restrictions: You may not reverse-assemble or reverse-compile the
> > >Licensed Materials.  You may not sell, rent or lease copies that you
make.
> > >3.  Copyright: The Licensed Materials and any accompanying
documentation
> > >are
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> > >trademarks, or protective notices from the copies.
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> > >documentation will be free from errors or will meet your specific
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are
> > >any subsequent user.
> > >5.  Limitations: TI makes no warranty or condition, either express or
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> > >merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose, regarding the
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> > >In no event shall TI or its suppliers be liable for any indirect,
> > >incidental
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> > >contract or indemnity.
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> > >  IF YOU AGREE TO BE BOUND BY THIS LICENSE, CLICK ON THE "ACCEPT"
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> > >IF
> > >YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH THIS LICENSE, CLICK ON THE "DECLINE" BUTTON TO
EXIT
> > >THE INSTALLATION PROGRAM.
> > >-end copy-
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: <jonufreiczuk@ti.com>
> > >To: <serial@earthlink.net>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 9:29 AM
> > >Subject: Re: Ti89 And AMS2.01
> > >>
> > >> Matthew,
> > >>
> > >> Thank you for your e-mail.
> > >>
> > >> The AMS version 2.01 that you have downloaded was not developed by
Texas
> > >> Instruments.  Texas Instruments did not develop this software.
> > >>
> > >> Therefore, Texas Instruments will not support any early released AMS
> > >> versions not downloaded from the official TI web site
> > >> (http://www.ti.com/calc/flash/89.htm). Therefore, there will be no
> > >> available guidebooks or technical support for version 2.01.
> > >>
> > >> If you have any further questions or comments please feel free to
contact
> > >> us at your convenience. Please copy this message in your response and
> > >send
> > >> directly to ti-cares@ti.com for faster service on replies.
> > >>
> > >> Kind regards,
> > >>
> > >> John Onufreiczuk
> > >>
> >
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> Educational & Productivity Solutions
> > >> Customer Support Center                E-mail: ti-cares@ti.com
> > >> Texas Instruments
> > >> PO Box 650311 M/S 3962
> > >> Dallas, TX  75265                      (972)917-8324 (Technical Help)
> > >>                                        (800) 842-2737 (General Info)
> >
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>  www.ti.com/calc
> > >> ========================= ORIGINAL MESSAGE ==========================
> > >>
> > >> [ serial@earthlink.net on 11/30/99 6:49:37 PM ]
> > >>
> > >> Name:  Matthew Tocki
> > >> Email:  serial@earthlink.net
> > >> Message:
> > >> I purchased my ti89 the first day it hit
> > >> the shelves of staples. Now up until
> > >> today I've never never been dissatisfied
> > >> with it or it's operating. But I assume
> > >> by no fault of your own our group on the
> > >> assembly-89@ticalc.org mailing list is
> > >> pretty upset with you. You see we got our
> > >> hands on ams 2.01 to check out all the
> > >> neat things you guys promised us. Well it
> > >> was pretty disheartening to learn that
> > >> nothing works right but that's okay
> > >> because we can rewrite our programs to
> > >> use the new registers but then we are
> > >> again shocked to learn that in spite of
> > >> giving us all the extra space you have
> > >> limited the total space an asm program
> > >> can use to 8k. Now we all understand that
> > >> ti is out for the quick buck vs. say hp
> > >> who actually promotes programing on their
> > >> calculators. The loss of greyscale was
> > >> annoying but the fact is Ti no good
> > >> app/game can be limited by 8k. I'm
> > >> writing this because i'd like to inform
> > >> you that 99% of the Ti community has HW1
> > >> still and we do indeed know how to use
> > >> the flash hold in that. So it will be far
> > >> less than a month before we are able to
> > >> crack open the flash rom license code and
> > >> be able to use our full space and even
> > >> have the benifit of having it called a
> > >> licensed flash app. So since it's not
> > >> officialy released yet I make the plea
> > >> that if you limit our individual space
> > >> usage and attempt to charge us for
> > >> programs as lame as the organizer which
> > >> can be written by anyone here faster
> > >> cleaner and of couse CHEEPER your going
> > >> to be making a bad move. Most of the
> > >> support Ti calculators get is from people
> > >> who program and play games. If you allow
> > >> us to do neither your asking for it. I'm
> > >> not a master of economy but I'd assume
> > >> taking away the two biggest reason that
> > >> people buy ti's is going to make them go
> > >> with the hp. So what I'm really saying is
> > >> please Ti before you officialy release
> > >> the ams2.x officialy allow us more
> > >> freedom for programming or we'll go
> > >> around you somehow anyway. Keep in mind
> > >> that your so called security measures are
> > >> not as secure as you think since now you
> > >> have a flash app installer and the easy
> > >> to install .89u format. You did infact
> > >> promise us that our calculators would
> > >> never be oudated but then WHAM Hardware
> > >> version 2 and another nice kick in the
> > >> teeth. I'm interested on your thoughts of
> > >> this ti.
> > >> -Serial
> > >>
> > >>
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