Re: LZ: Usgard
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Re: LZ: Usgard
If you need every bit you can spare, don't use ZShell, just make a
complete backup that installs your program to F1 (sort of what CustCust
does).
And, just so you know, NASR and PutSprite are both in the SpriteLibrary
Usgard has. They are VERY widely used.
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On Tue, 10 Jun 1997 14:25:55 +0100 Adam Geitgey
<csrawebtech@qualityservice.com> writes:
>> practically EVERY program, and it takes 4,6k string memory. You
>> now have about 19k left (umm... can someone explain why there is not
>> 23k left!?!? I though the 85 had 28k user ram). You now have 19k
>free (should
>> be 23k) for games, USGARD games (they will come, that's a promise).
>If those
>> games were converted to ZShell, they would most likely not fit on
>the calc!
>>
>
>Libraries don't really save much space at all, especially since most
>people won't reuse the same libraries. Look at any two zshell games -
>how much of the code is common between two programs? Maybe a few
>bytes? And no one is really gonna want to use someone else's window
>drawing routines.. Look how well that worked in OS-85. (BTW, that
>comparison chart of shells on the usgard page has quite a few errors,
>os-85 DOES have many of it's own calls to name one)
>
>> relocation), you could have more games on the calc at the same time,
>and
>> you would have cooler games. I intend to develop lots of stuff for
>Usgard
>
>I still don't understand how having a much larger shell (ATLEAST 4k as
>compared to ~1k of oshell) will let you fit MORE games on the
>calculator. There is just not much stuff to put into a library that
>could be reused. The only common thing would be maybe putpixel or
>something and you would want that to be right in the program so you
>could maximize speed.
>
>Plus in my project, it won't work with usgard because the game needs
>every since k it can get because it is an indepth rpg with many maps
>and
>lots of text, etc. Usgard as you say has minimum 19k free - 3.5k for
>grayscale = 15.5k = not acceptable. Oshell leaves ~27k - 3.5k = 23.5k
>=
>much much better. That is -= 8k =- difference... I don't see how
>usgard's libraries with save 8k of space on the average user's
>calculator. That is enought for a map layout of 256 x 256 in my game!
>
>Plenty of space for almost ALL the maps!
>
>Please correct me if you think I am mistaken.
>
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