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New Hardware: The TI-BOX
Posted by Joey on 29 May 2003, 00:13 GMT

The people over at FirstSECTOR have devised a method of converting an old computer into a keyboard, mouse, and floppy drive interface for the TI-92. Check out the French page or go see Google's translation.

 


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Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
AIMSoft  Account Info

Wow this is soooo cool! It almost (I repeat, almost) makes me want to buy a 92 instead of a 89!!! Too bad I have none of the components......

AYBABTU!!!

     29 May 2003, 01:48 GMT


Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
AndySoft  Account Info
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I think AYBABTU is getting old around here... Correct me if I'm wrong...

AYPABTE (pi and e, respectively)

     29 May 2003, 05:26 GMT


Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
CheeseOfGlory  Account Info

What you say! AYBABTU will never get old, especically since I made the 89 version of it....though it sucks....it was my first C program anyway

but onto relevance!
This looks pretty cool, but what they really need to make is a floppy for the 89, then I could carry around a giant library of e-books with me, thus changing my options from gnawing off my leg in desperate boredom to reading...errr.. Call of The Wild
joy

     29 May 2003, 09:23 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
AIMSoft  Account Info

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     29 May 2003, 14:08 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
Drantin  Account Info

Nah... we just need to bring a USB for compatibility with some key drives... why 1.38MB (or 1.68 depending on the formating you used) when you can start with a low of 64 and a high of 256?

     30 May 2003, 00:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
Xavier Xavier  Account Info
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It stay 800 KB for TI programs on the floppy disk.
But you can change the floppy disk.
and 800 KB is very big for TI programs !

I could add an hardisk, but it is very flimsy and quite heavy. And i use the place used by the hardisk for putting the cable.

     2 June 2003, 09:14 GMT

Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
Charlemagne  Account Info
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Hey, that looks pretty neat.
Here's a question, though, can you only hook up one thing to the 92 at a time? Because that's all the pictures show......

     29 May 2003, 01:50 GMT


Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
AndySoft  Account Info
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It seems like you just hook the 92 up to the computer, and you use the keyboard and mouse to actually control the computer, and it sends data to the 92...

     29 May 2003, 05:27 GMT


Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
Xavier Xavier  Account Info
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yes, but I must respect TI92 communication protocol for using my device without any software (exepted the terminal fterm) on my TI92.

It is easy for the keyboard, for the mouse but more difficult for sending or receiving datas.

     2 June 2003, 09:20 GMT

Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
Seaborgium  Account Info

After having read this, I think I will make a(n) attempt to build my own. I figure I can use the same parts, just different manufacturers. I doubt ANYONE has a(n) old toshiba. I used to though, I do not know what happened. Also, if I do make it, it would be for the 83 Plus/83. Help? Suggestions anyone?

     29 May 2003, 21:37 GMT


Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
Xavier Xavier  Account Info
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First, i think you should find the communication protocol of your calculator in order to change my programs if they don't work.

     2 June 2003, 09:16 GMT

Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
W Hibdon  Account Info

He said that he used an old toshiba laptop and I wondered if any old laptop would work. And then, the wierdest thing happeded. I was cleaning my room, and I found an old toshiba laptop in my room. It was really creepy.

-W-

     31 May 2003, 19:30 GMT

Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Now all you need is a TI-92!

     1 June 2003, 00:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
W Hibdon  Account Info

Or knowledge of QB, so I can modify it for my 89.

-W-

     1 June 2003, 04:28 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
benryves  Account Info
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I'd probably write an 83+ version IF I still had an old Win95 PC to work on. QB sucks on XP and probably wouldn't be able to control the serial port properly either (damn NT and its blocking of direct port accessing)

     1 June 2003, 11:36 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
Xavier Xavier  Account Info
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I have this problem width a P2 233Mhz and Win98 on : QB can't use the serial port.

Try to boot your PC with a floppy disk width MSDOS on. Fot this run FORMAT A: /S on a PC with MSDOS on.

     2 June 2003, 09:25 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
benryves  Account Info
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It won't read my Hard disk. They're formatted as NTFS.

     3 June 2003, 09:09 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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What is the file system called on Apples/Macs. I know that FAT (12), FAT 16, FAT 32, and NTFS exist for PCs but what about Apple?

     3 June 2003, 21:53 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
techfury  Account Info

There are four Mac file systems: MFS (Mac File System, used only on like 400k floppies), HFS (Herirachrical File System, aka Mac OS Standard format, used on 800k/1.4mb floppies, and most hard drives before 1998, Mac OS Extended, introduced in 8.1, used on hard drives, and like Zip disks, and finally, Unix File System, which is used on X, because it is UNIX based, but its really an option, most OS X hard drives are Mac OS Extended formatted like mine.

     3 June 2003, 22:10 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
benryves  Account Info
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And the Archie:
Uses HFS on the master drive (Host Filing System) and ADFS on floppies (Acorn Disk Filing System [?])

     4 June 2003, 09:19 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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Thanks

     4 June 2003, 18:03 GMT


Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
Xavier Xavier  Account Info
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Any old wearable PC can work but he must have 2MO I think for loading MSDOS

     2 June 2003, 09:23 GMT

Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
benryves  Account Info
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MO = MB in English :)

     2 June 2003, 22:25 GMT

Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
Tacvek  Account Info

I will take annother close look at this. the 89/92+ uses the EXACT same protocol, so the key is to check for the few sections of code that is incompatable and translate most of the code into english.

I will try it right now, but if you don't hear from me about this again i have given up.

     3 June 2003, 01:57 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
Tacvek  Account Info

correction: i am roughly translating the comments and text used in the QBasic code. This will allow a person who speaks english, but not french, to use the program with minimal difficulty. Et Xavier Xavier was kind enough to have english command names for many of the commands, usually with a french command too. I will leave both alone.

I am not changing the code for use with the ti-89. I will leave that up to somebody else.

also some of the translated text makes little or no sense, That occured when french words that i don't know were used, and google's translation made no sense. in those cases i just used the excact response that google gives. I should be finished within 2 days. I will Send it to Xavier Xavier to be posyted on his website when i have completed it.

     3 June 2003, 03:21 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
Xavier Xavier  Account Info
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Thank you ! It would be great !

     3 June 2003, 14:29 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
Tacvek  Account Info

I have submitted The english files. They should hopefully be available on firstsector's web page soon. [actully it the web site appears to be offline or has changed hands]. I expect that Xavier Xavier will soon post the files to this website. He will hopefully post my translation too... It is less than perfect but should make ti-box MUCH more usable for english speakers. I also included a file that lists the basic changes that are needed to update the softeware to work with ti-89. I also Updated the book inlcuded, "Discourse on the Method of Rightly Conducting the Reason, and Seeking Truth in the Sciences By ReneĀ‚ Descartes", To be both in english, and complete.

I hope sombody finds this useful.

     13 June 2003, 00:03 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
Xavier Xavier  Account Info
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Thank you very much.
In Firstsector, we are changing of provider, so our website is offline during 3 or 4 days.
Can you send mail in jm.b6@wanadoo.fr if there are filejoin, because I have some problems with filejoin on xavti92@caramail.com, it would be great.
We 'll put your pseudo Tacvek on our site. And if you want to be in the Firstsector team, you can !

     13 June 2003, 12:14 GMT


Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
W Hibdon  Account Info

2Mb where?

-W-

     5 June 2003, 20:13 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
benryves  Account Info
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Extended RAM, I think. Just load DOS into UMB, and use HIMEM to read all the rest of the RAM...

     5 June 2003, 23:17 GMT

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