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New Hardware: The TI-BOX
Posted by Joey on 29 May 2003, 00:13 GMT

The people over at FirstSECTOR have devised a method of converting an old computer into a keyboard, mouse, and floppy drive interface for the TI-92. Check out the French page or go see Google's translation.

 


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QBASIC
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Hey, they're using QBASIC in here! LOL, I did say that QB is important! I found that interesting :)

The french translation isn't perfect, but it's understandable. I still think that I might have more luck reading the french version :)

     29 May 2003, 01:21 GMT


Re: QBASIC
benryves  Account Info
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In where?
Did you get DQB to work? Good, isn't it!
(I seem to remember it only works with v4.5)
*I like QB*

     29 May 2003, 09:25 GMT

Re: Re: QBASIC
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Yeah! There's a LOT of extra functions in DQB!

In the site, it said to install QB 1.1 onto the TI-box somewhere... it said something about QB 4.5 not working because of the mouse (reading translated pages is hard for me)

     29 May 2003, 14:27 GMT


Re: Re: Re: QBASIC
benryves  Account Info
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To get QB4.5 working with the mouse, run it with the syntax:
C:\QB>QB /L
instead of just
C:\QB>QB
...?

     29 May 2003, 14:54 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: QBASIC
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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It works with the mouse on mine... I think they meant that the mouse reader interrupt (or whatever they used to read it) interfered with the box or something... I think I might have to go read that again to see what they meant by that :)

     29 May 2003, 17:30 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: QBASIC
Xavier Xavier  Account Info
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Thank you !
I will try !

     30 May 2003, 14:44 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: QBASIC
benryves  Account Info
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As in, to pool the mouse in QB you need the extra libraries loaded (so add the "/L" to the command line). Don't know if it works with this box, though...

     30 May 2003, 18:06 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: QBASIC
Xavier Xavier  Account Info
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There is also a little problem if I use QB4.5 (and not QB1.1) : my program isn't compillated, it start with QBASIC /RUN myprogram, i am obliged to put QBASIC.EXE on my floppy disk.
QB1.1 is quite light, but QB4.5 is bigger, so if i put QB4.5, there isn't much place on my floppy for TI programs

     2 June 2003, 09:02 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: QBASIC
benryves  Account Info
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Why don't you compile the program, instead of running it through QB?

     2 June 2003, 22:24 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: QBASIC
Xavier Xavier  Account Info
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There are three programs in total.
I don't compile my program because it is more easy to modify it.
And the compillated program will not very more fast and little than the .BAS and QBASIC.EXE...

     4 June 2003, 10:30 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: QBASIC
benryves  Account Info
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Well, you could modify the program, then comile it. The advantage is the space saved - the QB.EXE + the BAS file will take more space than just your program when compiled...

     5 June 2003, 09:26 GMT


Re: Re: QBASIC
Xavier Xavier  Account Info
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DQB ? what is that ? I know QB1.1, QB4.5 and PDS (or QB7.1). QB is a good language, that dont't need a very powerful PC, a simple OS, that is easy, don't very fast but it is not a problem for programs like this one.

My ,programs work on QB1.1 and QB4.5, but in QB4.5 i have some problems with the mouse.

     30 May 2003, 14:42 GMT


Re: Re: Re: QBASIC
benryves  Account Info
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Ever heard of Allegro for C? Well, DQB is a set of graphics libraries, not unlike Allegro, that runs inside QB. You need to build the libraries first (which is a right-royal-pain-in-the-arse), but once going you can do some pretty neat stuff.

     30 May 2003, 18:08 GMT

Who's ever heard of FirstSECTOR.
RCTParRoThEaD_ Account Info
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Wow, this looks cool. To bad it ain't for the 89.


Btw, who's ever heard of FirstSECTOR anyways. Are they new?

     29 May 2003, 01:22 GMT

Re: Who's ever heard of FirstSECTOR.
Seaborgium  Account Info

They are French! *Laugh*

     29 May 2003, 21:35 GMT


Re: Who's ever heard of FirstSECTOR.
Xavier Xavier  Account Info
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Yes firstsector.com is new.
We are 5 to build the site, we are about 16 years old, on differents country of France.
The team is very open, everybodywho makes good articles can be admit to the team. The subjects are : old computers, calculators, video games, tracking, ... all who is about computering is welcome.

     30 May 2003, 14:51 GMT

Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
AndySoft  Account Info
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For all of you saying "too bad it isn't for the xx calculator" -- You probably just have to change the QB program around a bit to make it compatible with more calculators.

Another note, how about making it so you just slip the calc into the computer case and it automatically plugs in? Oh wait, you need to see the calc's screen... Nevermind.

     29 May 2003, 01:37 GMT

Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
RCTParRoThEaD_ Account Info
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cut a hole for the screen?

     29 May 2003, 03:38 GMT


Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
KermMartian Account Info
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yeah, but you need a space for the keyboard too (unless you are using the external keyboard).

     30 May 2003, 18:59 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
Xavier Xavier  Account Info
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I use an external keyboard, one of the T1900 is to little.

The external keyboard is very useful for french people : we use lots special caracters like â, é, à, ù and they aren't on calculator keyboard, and our keyboard is a azerty (and not a qwerty like TI92 one).

     2 June 2003, 09:09 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
benryves  Account Info
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For some reason I can cope with an AZERTY layout, but can't get my head around the US keyboard layout (with the " and the @ swapped, the tilde next to the 1 key and the £ sign missing from Shift+3)

     3 June 2003, 09:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
Xavier Xavier  Account Info
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Yes but it is more esay with an external keyboard ^_^

     4 June 2003, 10:31 GMT


Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
Xavier Xavier  Account Info
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Yes, if you modify the program in QB, it will work on others calculators.
And the program isn't a .EXE, it is a .BAS and it run QBASIC /RUN .... .BAS. Like this i can change the program very easy without create a new executable.

for use the TIBOX,
- I plug the calculators to the TIBOX
- I start the TIBOX
- I start the simple terminal on my calculator (fterm).
- I wait a little (less than 1 minute) that the introduction will on my screen.

     30 May 2003, 14:56 GMT


Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
AndySoft  Account Info
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Yeah, I *love* QB... Don't use it much though. :( Good for little DOS thingies tho.

     30 May 2003, 22:19 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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Wht is QB, besides being another language.

     30 May 2003, 22:23 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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A cute little programming language. LOL... that sounded really weird.

     31 May 2003, 02:49 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Oh wait... n/m, I don't think that's what you were asking... sorry :)

It's good for making small DOS programs... it's very quick (hence the name QuickBASIC) and easy to use, but the language is much more limited than, say, C++.

REM This is my program
FOR i=1 TO 10
PRINT "This is an example of a stupid QB program. ";i
NEXT i
END

     31 May 2003, 16:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
benryves  Account Info
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>>it's very quick
Quick to write, NOT quick to run :)

     31 May 2003, 21:59 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Too true... but that's what happens when you use an interpreter vs. a compiler. :(

     1 June 2003, 00:48 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
Xavier Xavier  Account Info
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In QB4.5, the compiller isn't very more fast than the interpreter.
My program needn't very speed, it's limited by the transfert rate of the calculator (9600 bits/s)

QB7.1 (=PDS) is more fast (it was the professional edition of QB4.5), but he is very big (about 5 floppy disk !)

     2 June 2003, 09:06 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
RCTParRoThEaD_ Account Info
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QuickBASIC, or basically (pun intended) BASIC that is compiled.

     31 May 2003, 05:42 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Well, it can be compiled (to .EXE), but it runs through an interpreter.

     1 June 2003, 00:49 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Hardware: The TI-BOX
benryves  Account Info
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Not neccessarily - you can get it to run 'nostub', (ie not need BRUN45.exe to run).

     1 June 2003, 11:34 GMT

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