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New 3D Project
Posted by Joey on 9 May 2003, 02:32 GMT

Thibaut Chevalier is working on a new 3D project for the 89, 92+, and V200. It can reach 20 FPS, and will render scenes from a tilemap. No release date is set, but he plans to release a clone of the old 3D car racing PC game "Stunts" once the engine is perfected. Find out more at his website.

 


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Re: New 3D Project
KermMartian Account Info
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I noticed that at TI-News.com
That's a really cool project; I hope that he finishes it, because it would be a great addition to the TI community.

     9 May 2003, 14:35 GMT

Re: New 3D Project
nickname

Why is the French TI-89/92 programming so big? French are 50 millions, less than Germany or UK.

     9 May 2003, 17:41 GMT


Re: Re: New 3D Project
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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rephrase your question. BTW, the preview of this new engine looks very promising. On Moitib's website he says that this new engine is faster than his dementia engine.

     9 May 2003, 18:57 GMT

Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
Chevalier Thibaut  Account Info
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I haven't said this engine is faster than Space Dementia's one. It has more features, so it may be slower... But I isn't worth making a comparison because the things displayed are not the same !

     9 May 2003, 19:41 GMT


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Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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I must have read it wrong, but this new engine you are making looks incredible accurate. Good luck and your progress

     9 May 2003, 19:54 GMT


Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
Cl0nedB0y  Account Info
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I think what he is trying to say is -why is the majority of 68k calc programming done by the french? France has a population about 50 mil less than britain or germany.-
I myself am a bit curious as to why a very good portion of the programs for the 68k calcs are done by people in france, and if they are that big on programing then how come it isnt as much in the z80 calcs as it is in the 68k's (i don't have anything against the french so you can stop thinking about that, heck i'm interested in a girl of french background)

     9 May 2003, 22:13 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
Chevalier Thibaut  Account Info
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It seems to me most programmers are students "post-baccalaureat" who use 68k calcs for the possibilities they offer in algebra (CAS...). So they prefer 68k calcs to the ones of the TI83 serie...
In the USA, the TI83 serie seems to be more popular.

     9 May 2003, 22:52 GMT


Re: New 3D Project
gorion Account Info

That makes sense, I guess. Was the first calculator that you had a TI-86? According to your website, this is just your second (?) 68k project. Maybe someone should port some of your TI-86 games to the 83 series.

By the way, in English, "serie" isn't really a word, only "series" is commonly used.

     14 May 2003, 05:11 GMT


Re: Re: New 3D Project
Chevalier Thibaut  Account Info
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You are right with my calculators/project.
Someone has begun to port RBlade to the 83+, but I don't know if he is still on the project... that's not easy to do, the program is a bit complicated.

     17 May 2003, 10:46 GMT

Wow
W Hibdon  Account Info

I have one word for this project: SWEET. I only wish that I had the programming skills to do something this complex. Oh well....

-W-

     9 May 2003, 20:15 GMT

Re: New 3D Project
jaymzru  Account Info
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I can't believe that after all this time, nobody has fixed that bloody blinking effect on the grayscale of those m68k calcs.

     9 May 2003, 20:37 GMT

Re: Re: New 3D Project
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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OMG, 38? Wow...

I don't think the flicker is all that bad on the HW2...

     9 May 2003, 22:32 GMT


Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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the flickering is only noticeable with 7/8 level grayscale or when you are outside. But considering that the calculators were not designed for grayscale, I think it has been a tremendious advancement.

     12 May 2003, 18:22 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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And I only use 4 level grayscale, so I never really saw a lot of flicker. Compared to the TI-82 ("fake grayscale"), it's pretty good :)

     12 May 2003, 23:00 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
W Hibdon  Account Info

I know that 7/8 flicker, but how do I do 8 level in C without making the program shell dependant?

-W-

     13 May 2003, 15:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
W Hibdon  Account Info

Sorry, I mixed up kernel and shell again. That should read, with out making it kernel dependant.

-W-

     13 May 2003, 21:08 GMT


Re: Re: New 3D Project
Chevalier Thibaut  Account Info
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It looks better (less flickering and lagging) on a real calc than on the screenshot (taken from Virtual TI).

     9 May 2003, 22:48 GMT


Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
Chivo  Account Info

I've only played with TI-Chess on a real 92+ HW2, so if this 3D has the same flicker quality, then it's not that bad. VTI is fine for Z80 grayscale, I think.

     11 May 2003, 02:47 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
W Hibdon  Account Info

Why cannot the 83+ display gray, but the 86 can? Ues I know all about the gratscale thing from before, but that is not a built in function.

-W-

     11 May 2003, 03:19 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
benryves  Account Info
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The 83+ CAN display grey!
Look at my Repton game - that uses some routines made by DP Kingma (they were featured in the news)

     11 May 2003, 10:49 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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And BTW, it looks nice.

     11 May 2003, 18:05 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
benryves  Account Info
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Thanks!
It's a bit slow (unless you set the interrupt frequency to '6' - but then the grey starts to flicker).

     11 May 2003, 19:35 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
W Hibdon  Account Info

My beef is, why is it not a built in capibility?

-W-

     11 May 2003, 21:41 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
benryves  Account Info
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Because TI are gyp.
They could build it in - or even better, use a twin-layer LCD (two LCDs sandwiched together) with one being a lower contast than the other - you then issue a command as to which LCD to draw on to get an illusion of grey (old Psions use this method - don't know about the new ones)

     12 May 2003, 08:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
RCTParRoThEaD_ Account Info
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gyp.?

     15 May 2003, 23:36 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
W Hibdon  Account Info

Probally some loony british term.

-W-

     16 May 2003, 00:45 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
RCTParRoThEaD_ Account Info
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well, that loon knows how to make me feel naive for once. :-p

     16 May 2003, 01:03 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
benryves  Account Info
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Gyp, shortened form of gyppo, (rude) slang term for Gypsy.
If someone is (a) 'gypsy', they are basically just skipping doing something (like building in greyscale) because they can't be bothered.

     16 May 2003, 09:17 GMT


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RCTParRoThEaD_ Account Info
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Gypsies are cool, don't dis them.

     16 May 2003, 17:51 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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LOL... it's really funny how British and American slang are so different :)

     17 May 2003, 19:44 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
benryves  Account Info
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We aren't 'loony'.
We prefer the term 'eccentric'.

     16 May 2003, 14:14 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
Chivo  Account Info

LOL! "Eccentric" like John Cleese on Rat Race!

     16 May 2003, 20:46 GMT


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no_one_2000_  Account Info
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That movie is funny :)

     17 May 2003, 19:44 GMT


beware Holiday Inns...
RCTParRoThEaD_ Account Info
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whooooo... Keith Moon the loon!

     16 May 2003, 22:14 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
Chevalier Thibaut  Account Info
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Grayscale is not a built-in capability because TI calcs are made to do math, and to do math you don't need grayscale. Moreover it is easier to read a screen in black&white than in grayscale...

     17 May 2003, 10:51 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
W Hibdon  Account Info

Then why is it on the 68K calcs?

-W_

     17 May 2003, 17:34 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
Chivo  Account Info

Grayscale is not built into the 68k calcs. It's done about the same way as on the Z80 calcs, more or less.

     19 May 2003, 20:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New 3D Project
Geek_Productions Account Info

I beg to differ, as the 83+ Silver Edition has built in greyscale capabilities. (Yes,I Have tested this via crappy Basic progs.)

     24 May 2003, 22:24 GMT

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