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Grayscale on TI-83 Plus
Posted by Michael on 19 January 2003, 22:58 GMT

A stunning new programming kit has been released by Diederik Kingma of Maxcoderz. Grayscale Programming Package v1.0 is available for the 83 and 83+. It provides tools for programmers to develop grayscale programs on the 83-series calculators. The demos cast aside any flickers of doubt regarding the viability of grayscale on the 83+; this technology is worth checking out.

 


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Re: Grayscale on TI-83 Plus
StarHawk  Account Info
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Hey, yeah. Keep up the news, Michael! Yay, lots of news :)
As to the post, greyscale=cool. :) Who cares if it runs at 10% of the speed, hey, it's not BASIC!!!!

     20 January 2003, 00:51 GMT


Re: Re: Grayscale on TI-83 Plus
Diederik Pieter Kingma  Account Info
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Actually, games run at approx 20 to 30 percent of normal speed. I didnt really calculate it, but my guess of 10 percent was wrong; the speed is actually 2 to 3 times faster ;)

-DP-

     20 January 2003, 01:03 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Grayscale on TI-83 Plus
StarHawk  Account Info
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Even better :)

     20 January 2003, 05:57 GMT

Listen up..
RCTParRoThEaD_  Account Info
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I am sorry that i caused some chaos about all this. As long as Michael uses moderation with all of this, I will keep my mouth shut about it. If you've heard of the saying "First impressions are last impressions," then I hope you all will understand that I got the impression that he would be a robot who would delete anything slightly off topic. I now understand that he was getting used to ticalc.org and needed some feedback on the post deletion. True, Michael always will be a better programmer than me, but some people (who i shall not name) feel that in that first day of his job, he took the rules a little too seriously by deleting posts that simply were protests. But, as long as he uses moderation, i will be happy and will not be another Abbie Hoffman (I don't want to be hit in the head with a Gibson SG by Pete Townshend).

On an on-topic note, this does look very cool, even though i'm doing C now. Maybe Mars Patrol can be updated using this..

Also, don't do TOO much news at once, then there's really nothing to discuss.

     20 January 2003, 05:11 GMT


Re: Listen up..
benryves  Account Info
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Can you do C on a TI-83 Plus (not that I'd want to, just curious).

     20 January 2003, 09:12 GMT

Re: Re: Listen up..
RCTParRoThEaD_  Account Info
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no

     20 January 2003, 18:56 GMT


Re: Re: Listen up..
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Well, there might be some way to do it, but you can't use TIGCC. Besides, C for z80 seems a little... I don't know... it just seems to me that C doesn't directly translate to z80 without a LOT of space being wasted, therefore losing a lot of precious speed in your programs.

     20 January 2003, 21:06 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Listen up..
Gergely Patai  Account Info
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Well, it's not entirely impossible. You should ask Henk Poley about the issue. See the link.

     20 January 2003, 21:49 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Listen up..
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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I didn't say it was entirely possible (at least I didn't mean to). I (think I) said it was just inefficient. (It's hard to tell what you mean at a sch00l computer, when you're being watched by the librarian)

     20 January 2003, 22:38 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Listen up..
garyanddepleatedteamup  Account Info

amazing, what rct said about not being enfuf to discuss with all this news, i think he is wrong, lots of news keeps the discussion on topic!

     20 January 2003, 23:20 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Listen up..
RCTParRoThEaD_  Account Info
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i meant enough time

     21 January 2003, 14:18 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Listen up..
RCTParRoThEaD_  Account Info
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we definately need an "Edit Post" button. eh magnus?

     21 January 2003, 14:18 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Listen up..
benryves  Account Info
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Yep.
What would be even cooler is a system that would make new posts that have appeared since you last logged on a different colout - maybe with an orange title bar instead of a blue.

     21 January 2003, 19:05 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Listen up..
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Yeah :) But I visit this site so frequently that I memorize the posts (inadvertantly) and so I know which ones are new ;)

To check which ones are new and which ones aren't would be a lot of work. It would either require MASSIVE cookies, or a lot of confusing stuff in perl.

     21 January 2003, 21:51 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Listen up..
Diederik Pieter Kingma  Account Info
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No, it wouldnt be so hard i think. You could just save the time when the user last checked the posts, and the next time you log on, just check which posts were posted after that. It would require just one cookie.

     22 January 2003, 13:03 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Listen up..
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Yeah, but then you'd have to compare the last viewed date to all of the post dates and then it could take forever to load, like phpBB.

     22 January 2003, 21:45 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Listen up..
Diederik Pieter Kingma  Account Info
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It would require only one query, so it wouldnt require much time *at all*.

     23 January 2003, 10:02 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Listen up..
JcN Account Info

My friend made a BASIC program that allowed the user to program in an alternate language (which he designed himself) that used strings to store commands and execute them accordingly, sort of like an interpreter. The only problem was the absolute slow-ness of the program (I mean, when you displayed text, you could acutally SEE the individual letters being streamed to the screen!). If anyone wanted, I could try to make an assembly C interpreter for the TI-83+ or TI-89...

     22 January 2003, 20:42 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Listen up..
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Do you know how slow that would be?? And how much time it would take???

     22 January 2003, 21:48 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Listen up..
JcN Account Info

If I wrote it in assembly and made it efficient, or made a FlashApp that could allow the user to create C programs on the calculator, the speed of the executed C program should go about as fast as a BASIC program. Mind you, this could take a while to develop; all TI-calculators seem to have little object-oriented features, if any at all.

Even better, we could petition to TI to make an OS upgrade or patch to allow some, if not all, TI-calculators to have a C interpretor instead of a BASIC interpretor.

     27 January 2003, 02:51 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Listen up..
techfury  Account Info

Yeah, and most Japanese graphing calcs have a C compiler built in! You enter your program in the text editor, then compile it all on the calc!

     24 May 2003, 22:03 GMT

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