your should screen the achives as they are being uploaded. i know that would slow down upload time even more but it would help that this situation wouldn't occur again.

Wow, you all must have just reopened within the last twenty or so minutes...

Anyway I agree. I think that if files were screened while they were being added to the archives, you would always know that everything in the archives isn't "inappropriate material". Just out of curiosity, what was the nature of this inappropriate material? TI seems to be quite serious about recalling all the CD's and I was wondering how much hot water TICalc.org might have been in because of it. Glad to see you reopening though.

We have had reports on several issues, and we are still investigating. We are only talking about material that is already rejected according our Site Policies, that have previously slipped through our screening.

Maybe the screening would be less "painful" if you used scripts that searched the text's in the zipfiles for certain "inapproprate-specific" words, and let those files be manually screened, while you'd put up a user "inappropriateness"-rating system, which can (after a certain level of inappropriateness is reached) automatically put the file on hold, and send a review request to the staff....

I posted this sutggestion on calc.orgs news board, see thet for more details.

this system of looking for certain words does NOT work at all. that's exactly what a filter on my computer does. (Content Watch) it blocks almost every single program (not that bad, i can get around it).. and disallows websites like men's health.com, and allows websites to be viewed in my email that are very bad... (i didn't intentionally go to these sites, they are just popped up)... it seems like a good idea, but it doesn't work at all.

That's true, and that's why I added the manual review of blocked files, and the user rating.

It's just so not all files have to be manually reviewed, and when a file slips through (as now happens too!), users can report it, while afer a certain nr. of negative ratings, the file can automatically be put on hold for review, instead of someone writing an email, and the archiver forgetting all about the email...
(just what I imagine could happen to me if I was archiver :-)

ahhhhh my games r gettin so repetitive i need some new ones hope they get the archives up soon

SINCE ARCHIVES AREN'T UP I CAN'T GET A COPY OF THE LATEST TIGCC-SUITE
IF THERE IS SOMEONE WHO HAS IT CAN YOU PLEASE SEND IT TO JTJDT@MEDIAONE.NET

-THANKS

~`Jd`~

You can get it at http://tigcc.ticalc.org .

you can't get it there because it's ALSO HOSTED THROUGH TICALC.ORG!!


`~Jd~`

I think that ticalc.org should open up http://www.ticalc.org/pub/win/
archives since they have nothing to do with the cd's

As far as the "Inappropriate Material" Goes, if you read TI's disclaimer at:
http://www.ikevtiva.com/temp/ticd1.jpg and
http://www.ikevtiva.com/temp/ticd2.jpg
It says language and some graphics. My best guess is games like Drug Wars clones and strip blackjack. No dobt once all files have been checked, the stuff people actually want, such as routines and real games, will be back online. :)

What's so inappropriate about these titles? They don't have any porn or such...

actually, i had some porn on teh calculator, it was just a few jpg someone converted with tigry img thing... assembly does strange things my friend

We cannot loose drugwars. It is a testament to our unix programming forefathers makeing wonderfull games on awefull systems. It's like nethack, moria, and trek. We cannot loose them.

Agree

TI won't listen to our opinions though...

am i the only one who hates it when people say loose instead of lose?

No at all, people need to learn to type correctly.

no at all... hmm.

Lol, that's kindof funny!

-Jeff(raging flame)

Hmm, I don't know,
should a game continue to exist because of sentimentality, while it is actually not really
appropriate?

I think not, but that's just my opinion.

1: Loose is spelled Lose.
2: Drugwars is about dealing drugs. There is a REASON why schools ban such programs.
3: Testament? I'm not gonna even say anything about that.

1. Schools don't give a damn f**k about calc games.
2. This is just a game.
3. If you think the game is inapropriate, then don't load it onto your calc (author tells you about the game in the readme, if you don't read it, then it's your problem) and rave about it!

Simple huh?

I don't know whether schools care about calc games or not, but TI sure does, as it has so responsibly demonstrated. And of course (most) parents care.

Teachers DO care about the games and other material that goes on the calculators. At our school, they do. They check them every now and then. They don't particually mind games, it's just anything with bad material, such as porn or bad words.

Come on, what kind of porn can you put on your calc?

haven't you heard of the jpeg converters?

Small resolution and 4 colors comparing to 1024x768+ and 16+bit doesn't make any sense.

In my school, if you are caught playing any kind of game in class or study hall, your calculator will be taken away (a week sometimes, depending on the teacher). Teachers will also deleate games like drugwars. This is legal in a private school because you sign away your right of privacy to go there. I don't know what other schools do because I've always been in a private school.

Umm, since when are good UNIX programs games? I use UNIX and like systems (Linux and FreeBSD) on a daily basis, and none of the games you mention are among the programs I use. Good tools like make, grep, etc., are useful, games generally are not.

Actually, Drugwars was a DOS game made in the early 80's by John E. Dell. I don't know where you got the idea that it was originally for Unix...

I personally don't like drug Wars, nor do I disagree with people having it, but Ticalc.org has every right to not want it on their site. If you want it, just go get it from the maker, or from another site if you like it so much. as for porn, there's not much you can put on an 83+, but as for the higher systems, they have smaller pixels, so porn isn't out of the question. I personally think that pornography is gratuitous, but like I said, if you want porn and drugs, either go to California, or get it from another site.

I missed something what is TI recalling that has to do with CDs?

Why must they be screened at all?

Anyway, with my record upload wait I have 28 days and counting.

Alex

or better yet..... upload the said files to a seperate directory, say to be exazimened(sp)have us the users screen them and after so many good points or bad points it is either moved or deleted off the archive
if u put a disclaimer in said directory to the effect that the files may or may not be offencive and the users that choose to download said file are on their own, it would be our opinions as to wether or not the said files were added to the archives permently and the staff wouldn't have as much to do

I agree that the screening process is a great idea. But then again, while they're doing it, they should also eliminate the programs that don't work. We've all gotten them before. If they're going to do that, they should get rid of those, duplicates, and even old versions. I think that most reasonable would agree to that. Profanity is okay though, people can handle it, but games like Drug Wars and Pimp Quest should be eliminated at the least.

Also, for the TI-89/92+, there are 2 or 3 kernel-dependent games (I can recall Sor3 and Rain) which have slipped into the TI-89 Assembly Games folder. They should be in TI-89 Assembly Games (DoorsOS). And there are a few programs for various calculators which have been submitted into Amiga Utilities by mistake (presumably because it's the first alphabetically and therefore the default choice).

I was crushed when I realized PimpQuest was gone! Perhaps eliminating all of the "inappropriate" games wasn't the best course of action. What about setting up a ratings panel that gives ESBR (is that right?) ratings to each game. We could label several as inappropriate for younger adults. But the only programs that I believe need to be booted are the ones that don't work.