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There Are Too Many Programs Released This Week
Posted by Nick on 2 April 2000, 23:25 GMT

Bigdyna v2.1 BetaYou guys need to get some kind of schedule going or something, where one person uploads a program one day, and another person does it the next day, or something! You're killing me here!
Maybe it's the weekends that do it...

Most outdated goes first: Don Barnes - or someone - uploaded his copy of Super Mario Quest v1.1.0, but forgot to claim it, so this one got overlooked. Badly.
Two (three?) days later, this is getting posted. New features include a barrel-load of bugfixes and improved physics. The 89 and 92 Plus versions are available for DoorsOS II only. The 92 version is for Fargo II users.

One of my personal favorites, BigDyna v2.1 Beta (see screenshot), has been updated for the 89. Bomberman is honestly, in my opinion, the greatest game of all time. Human society reached its apex in achievement with the creation of Bomberman. It now works on AMS v2.03, and HW2 support is existent, but limited. Download it here. The author, Jean Canazzi, can be reached here.

I'd put this in its own news item, but I like these big hulking oversized news items, so there. Quentin Preuvot of Ti-Fr claimed and notified me of this wonderful, nifty, amazingly fantastic program, that has this, oh, how shall we put it, je ne sais quoi - a program that defeats the problems people had with their memory on Hardware 1.00 on AMS v2.03 - a problem that didn't allow users to get the extra half of the memory they so desired.
This fixes that.
MaxMem v1.00 can be downloaded from our archives for the 89 and the 92 Plus. This (obviously) only works for HW1 calculators using AMS v2.03.

I've spent an hour writing and preparing this news item and I'm still not done! Niklas Brunlid has updated SomeGame v0.65 again. Download it for the 89 and the 92 Plus...again!

A bug has been fixed in HW2Patch that now enables one to patch their calculator indefinitely. Patch your calc 89-style and/or 92 Plus-style.

AS92, the famous on-calc ASM compiler, has been updated by Deep Brain Activity. It's now ported to AMS v2.03 and macros have been added. Grab yourself some of that sweet lovin' for the 89 and the 92 Plus.

It's 4:12. Do you know where Ontic v0.99 is? I do! A 68K-based on-calc C compiler, Ontic v0.99 features complete stability and some bugfixes. Download the developer version for the 89 and the 92 Plus. You a user? We have the goods for you: the user version is available for the 89 and the 92 Plus.

This had better be it, because I need to eat dinner! The delectable Kouri Rosenberg has released TxtView v1.52 for the 83 and the 83 Plus for Ion. Sam Heald did the porting to the 83 Plus. Features include a bugfix related to the APD feature. You want source code for this? Well, we've got that too! Source code is available for the 83 and the 83 Plus.

I'm going to sleep.

 


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Re: Txtview 83+
acr34  Account Info
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Don't run this program from Ion, it causes the calc to lock up and you have to take a battry out and you lose your RAM.

     3 April 2000, 00:56 GMT


Re: Re: Txtview 83+
Kouri  Account Info
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Arg, you're right! DON'T DOWNLOAD TXTVIEW FOR THE 83+!
I was a bit hasty in releasing the 83+ version, and that's my bad, I really apologize for this. I'm working on the fix right now. Once again, I'm really, really sorry if anyone lost their mem.

     3 April 2000, 01:20 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Txtview 83+
Kouri  Account Info
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OK, I just uploaded a new version for the 83+. This one won't crash your calc when you exit. However, there still seem to be some problems with the file detection. If TxtView doesn't detect your files, try deleting all your lists. E-mail me if you're having problems, I will respond ASAP.

     3 April 2000, 01:32 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Txtview 83+
Kouri  Account Info
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In the meantime, the new version is at http://void.calc.org and my website above.

P.S. To Nick: I'm more salubrious than delectable, get your adjectives straight. =)

     3 April 2000, 01:55 GMT

Re: There Are Too Many Programs Released This Week
Reno  Account Info

wow, it actually fixes the "half archive" bug (I dont know the technical name for it; I gave it a nick)? Sweet...

     3 April 2000, 01:13 GMT

HW2 Fix
redhick5  Account Info
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hhmm.. i just tried the newer version of the hardware 2 patch on my virtual ti and it wont let me upload any asm programs and when i ran a basic program it displayed: "Internal Error"
I dont suppose ill put it on my calc until i know for sure it will work! ill recap. does anyone know if the new hw 2 patch will work right on the calc?

     3 April 2000, 02:22 GMT

Re: HW2 Fix
JaggedFlame

Well, I don't really want to try it, until all the bugs have been fixed. you can't send your product code (which is annoying, since all my friends want AMS 2.03... besides I haven't encountered any problems with the old version... so I might as well stick with it.

     3 April 2000, 02:51 GMT


Re: Re: HW2 Fix
vod

If the can modify the ti's product code so that the checksum is invalid after being run, couldent a program be made to reverse the changes, making it possable to send your product code?

     3 April 2000, 23:02 GMT


Re: HW2 Fix
David Phillips  Account Info
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I don't know if Rusty read this page or not, but I will bring it to his attention the next time he is online. Unless he implemented a ton of stuff in VTI before he released it (which he often does with stuff :) then the problem would be VTI not fully supporting all the hardware specific features of the TI-89/92+.

     4 April 2000, 09:39 GMT

Re: There Are Too Many Programs Released This Week
DWedit  Account Info
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Action RPG Construction set didn't get a news item.

     3 April 2000, 05:18 GMT


Re: Re: There Are Too Many Programs Released This Week
Nightbird Account Info

I don't think that that would count as a ti- program...a computer program most likely :)
even though it makes a ti program i don't think it would work that way

     7 April 2000, 02:58 GMT

Speaking of AMS 2.03......
dahoff
(Web Page)

Is there a way to get Periodic Table 2.0 Beta to work with AMS 2.03? It's the best periodic table I've seen for all the calcs.

Also, which do you guys like better and why? BigDyna vs. BomberBoy

     3 April 2000, 05:43 GMT

Re: Speaking of AMS 2.03......
Erich Oelschlegel  Account Info
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Tough one, but I'd have to go with BigDyna. BD's graphics are much nicer, and the gameplay is much faster and smoother. The only downside is that the enemies come much too quickly due to the small playing area, where BomberBoy's large playing area has the advantage. But Bomberboy puddles around trying to get places, it's not really that enjoyable to control him.

~ferich
hmm, I should be a reviewer :-)

     3 April 2000, 06:21 GMT


Re: Speaking of AMS 2.03......
Scott Noveck  Account Info
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1.) Hopefully, I think somebody emailed me a copy of the source that I can recompile

2.) I'd actually have to go with bomberboy, since BigDyna's enemies go too fast and through blocks to the point where it's way too dificult on the 89 - but on a 92+, it's awesome =)

     3 April 2000, 07:31 GMT

Re: There Are Too Many Programs Released This Week
ZenZagg  Account Info

HOLY COW@$!!^#@$!
erm, *coff*, ahem

This is truly great, especially the HW1 mem fix, I was running out of space for my backup database

     3 April 2000, 08:12 GMT


Re: Re: There Are Too Many Programs Released This Week
Jonas Lööf

Has anybody tested this HW1 archive fix, "MaxMem". Does it work? Personally I'm really hesitant to put something like that on my calculator without seeing the source first, but since most kids that program for the TI89 are propertarian scum :-) who woun't release there source, I'll just have to wait untill someone else has tested it.

     3 April 2000, 10:50 GMT

Re: Re: Re: There Are Too Many Programs Released This Week
Zeljko Juric  Account Info
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Programs like HW2 patches should not to be distributed with the source. All of them use such nasty tricks (including executing of a garbage) that distributing of their source may be more contraproductive than productive. Source of them are really not for everybody. Believe me, I know how these patches are written...

Btw, note that these patches modifies TIOS itself... That's why you can't send the product code to another calc (the checksum is corrupted, and at the moment, nobody know how to correct it)...

     3 April 2000, 15:11 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: There Are Too Many Programs Released This Week
Ferréol de Soras  Account Info

without being in "secret", can you explain better

     3 April 2000, 17:01 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: There Are Too Many Programs Released This Week
Zeljko Juric  Account Info
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As I am in contact with Julien, I principally know what he does. But, I don't want to elaborate ideas which are not mine. If you ask me anything about everything I made (tigcclib for example), I will elaborate in detail. I don't want to be in conflict with anybody by publishing their ideas whithou their licence. If Julien wants to elaborate his ideas, he will probably do it. I don't want to steal ideas made by somebody else, and to elaborate them as these ideas are mine...

     3 April 2000, 23:20 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: There Are Too Many Programs Released This Week
YodaToad  Account Info
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Does that mean that you can't ever flash the calculator again, or just can't send it to another calculator? When I saw the message that the program displays before it installs the program I decided not to do it because I don't want to sacrifice my Flash Upgradablity (and downgradability) for a few 100k of mem...

-Erik Davidson

     3 April 2000, 18:48 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: There Are Too Many Programs Released This Week
Zeljko Juric  Account Info
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You always can flash the calculator again. There is no way to "destroy" the part of TIOS which does downloading the Flash Software from the computer
(as it is stored in unwritable 64K part of Flash ROM), so you always can upgrade or downgrade your calc.
You only can't send the flash ROM with wrong checksum to another calc.

     3 April 2000, 23:25 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: There Are Too Many Programs Released This Week
YodaToad  Account Info
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Ok, thanks for clearing that up for me.

-Erik Davidson

     4 April 2000, 01:39 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: There Are Too Many Programs Released This Week
Kevin Goodsell  Account Info

On that note, can someone point me to a place where I can get a "virgin" copy of AMS 1.00? By virgin I mean like it would come from TI. I would have saved my rom from my calc, but I didn't realize I was modifying it with progs like Archive Utility. In fact, it seems that even VTI modifies ROM files when you archive variables and such. Anyway, it would give me peace of mind to have an original copy (one of each of the ROM versions would be nice to have handy, but I've already got 1.05 downloaded from TI and 2.03 is readily available).

-Kevin

     4 April 2000, 02:22 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: There Are Too Many Programs Released This Week
Jonas Lööf
(Web Page)

Check out Olle Hedmans page, linked in the header above. As a side note you can also find useful info on the TI89 hardware there.

     4 April 2000, 22:54 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: There Are Too Many Programs Released This Week
Chris Heit  Account Info
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In the readme he said he wasn't sure if you could use 'Not Free Applications' I think this means the ones you buy.

     4 April 2000, 04:14 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: There Are Too Many Programs Released This Week
Jonas Lööf

Perhaps your right regerding the HW2 patch; I haven't looked into it, since i own a HW1. As for the HW1 archive fix I have a farely good idea how it works, or at least how I would have done it, and I see no reason, what so ever, not to release its source.

It's not like the information neaded to write it is hard to get (Johan Borg's texts and the reference of the flash mem covers most of it), or dificult to understand. The only data that isn't readilly availible is, what adresses to jump to, to unlock the flash, and what code parts to patch. The first of these is not hard to find, through reverse engenering, just extremely boring. (I know since I did it once, when I thought I'd write a generic flash patcher.) To find what code to patch would of cause be harder, but not that hard, just singel step a call to arcive write, or trace it manually.

Since it semes to be posible to permanently damage a HW1 calc (by clearing the certificate memory), I would feel a lot safer if I had the sorce to programs like these. It's easy to check if a program unlocks the flash protection (using VTI; set a data write breakpoint on the range 0x1c0000-0x1fffff), but how are you suposed to check for malicious behaviour in programs that are suposed to do that? Since anybody intrested in writing a trojan (that clears the cert mem), already can find the info neded, releasing the source would do no harm. As for a trojan, where better to hide it than in a program that offers more memory. (Not that I think thats the case, but I won't bet my calc on it.)

     3 April 2000, 21:04 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: There Are Too Many Programs Released This Week
Zeljko Juric  Account Info
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You obviously know a lot about this topic...

Btw, be sure that Julien will never made a trojan. But, do you think that releasing a source will allow that some fool would made a trojan much easier than without having any source which patch the TIOS???

     3 April 2000, 23:45 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: There Are Too Many Programs Released This Week
Juan Corral  Account Info
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Just thinking about that whole "trojan" idea you guys put out... What kind of person can decipher someone else's code, fully comprehand the way a Flash EEPROM works, write a good trojan, and then distribute it on a *LARGE* site, with *COMMENT* boards, it would be exposed fairly quickly, however it might jack up some calcs :( But still it would take a pretty good programmer to do this.

And on another note, I think all programs should be open source, and follow the GPL. I personnaly like to play with the sources of programs, and make small optimizations to them (be it a Computer or TI-89 program). Also this allows for others to quickly and efficently update programs after authors have lost interests. For example, we could have an author that wrote a program back in 1998, prior to the relase of AMS 2.03, and now in 2000, he has left the "communtiy" so there is no way for many users to update that program so that it complies with the new standards.

This is just some stuff to think about, I don't neccessarily mean for it to apply to HW2Patch or MaxMem, but I wouldn't mind knowing how they work...

     4 April 2000, 00:32 GMT


on-calc Disassemblers
-Syldaril  Account Info

I think you're right. Keeping the development of progs like db92 (Tleilax gave up woking on it) would be a great thing (if only the source were provided) I guess DBA released a "post mortem" (!) version, with alot of improvements, but it was also full of bugs. So porting it to AMS 2.03 would really be great !
The only on-calc available now remains Disass...but I heard that Arno Kiniza sold his TI a couple of week ago..I guess the development of Disass got to an end.
---by the way: you wont find the .9xp file of Disass in the zip @ ticalc.org, but try to download the one @ TI-FILES. That one is complete.

So, anybody has as a project to create a new revolutionnary on-calc disassembler for the 92+ ???

     4 April 2000, 20:25 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: There Are Too Many Programs Released This Week
Jonas Lööf

No I wouldn't say I do that. (That is, know a lot about the subject.) I just happen to have read those files I mentioned. Like I said the info's there for anyone. The only thing neded to understand it is some basic knowledge on how microprocessors work, and the ability to decipher technical manuals.

And like I said, I don't beleve that Julien has writen a trojan; I'm just beeing overly causious.

     4 April 2000, 08:47 GMT


Re: Re: Re: There Are Too Many Programs Released This Week
barich Account Info
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I have, although only for a day. Everything still works, and I have all 720?k of the archive (I filled it up to test it) I don't have the Statistics Flash App installed, so I don't know if it still works.

     3 April 2000, 17:42 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: There Are Too Many Programs Released This Week
-Syldaril  Account Info

I tried MaxMem, and now I've got all my favorite programs ** ¡it's soo sweet! **, plus the Statistic Editor that I installed (the same day), and it seems to work great. Also I made a backup of everything, and once again everything worked perfectly.

     4 April 2000, 20:35 GMT

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