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Universal OS v1.10, Julien Muchembled Defeats HW2 Limit
Posted by Nick on 27 February 2000, 21:48 GMT

Imagine the euphoric shock I received when I got an ICQ from Francois Goldgewicht telling me that a new version of Universal OS had been released by Julien Muchembled.
Now multiply that by several googols and you have the ultimate pleasure overload that I experienced when I found out that a patch had been written by the same person to fix the 8 KB limit on assembly programs on Hardware v2.00 calculators running AMS v2.03.
That's right, folks. Now time for some documentation quoting:

If you have:
- a TI89 Hardware 2 and AMS 2.03: launch "ti89_203"
- a TI92 Plus Hardware 2 and AMS 2.03: launch "ti92p203"
The TI92 Plus version has not yet been tested. If people can confirm that it works, email me.
After that, the 8 KB limit should still be there. If you install DoorsOS II or Universal OS, though, things will be just hunky-dory.

Use this at your own risk. If you have any successes, email me. Good luck! :)

Update (Nick): Belated props to Ti.Fr for breaking this and posting the files. I've been busy with lots of real life stuff lately, so sorry for the late update, Francois :)

 


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Re: Universal OS v1.10, Julien Muchembled Defeats HW2 Limit
Jagged Flame

is universal os still supposed to say "1.02 installed", or is it supposed to say 1.10? i got 1.10, but it says 1.02...

     29 February 2000, 02:07 GMT

Re: Universal OS v1.10, Julien Muchembled Defeats HW2 Limit
Kevin Ha  Account Info
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I'm not sure whether TICalc.org forgot to upload the later version of UniversalOS or the guys forgot to change the version number in the program itself---after downloading UOS 1.10 from TiCalc.org and installing it onto my calc, it says, "Universal OS 1.02 installed." I'm not getting wild over this or anything because the same also applies to DoorsOS II (says 0.92 on my calc). Heheh, it would be wonderful if the programmers spent ten seconds on changing this trivial number. Oh well, as long as their TXT file is updated...

     29 February 2000, 02:55 GMT

Re: Re: Universal OS v1.10, Julien Muchembled Defeats HW2 Limit
Jagged Flame

doorsos is supposed to say 0.93... i think you had to uninstall the old one first and then install so that it says 0.93.

     29 February 2000, 23:20 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Universal OS v1.10, Julien Muchembled Defeats HW2 Limit
Ryan Pelletier  Account Info

I tried that too, it didn't work either.

     3 March 2000, 00:13 GMT


Re: Re: Universal OS v1.10, Julien Muchembled Defeats HW2 Limit
Aaron Peterson  Account Info
(Web Page)

I had problems with the French version of doors.

I think it may be similar to your problems...

You could have unzipped UOS into the wrong directory and then uploaded it from where you thought you had the old version...

Or (the prob I had with doors) I selected Add all, and selected versions I didn't want, installed them onto my calculator, wrote over the correct version with the french(or older) version, all in the same transfer to the calc.

note to doors people: please put language specific versions in thier own directorys.

Thanks!

     3 March 2000, 05:51 GMT

Re: Universal OS v1.10, Julien Muchembled Defeats HW2 Limit
Jeremy Weimer  Account Info

I have a TI-89 with hw 1.00 and I foolhartedly installed AMS 2.03. I would like to play all the games I used to so can I do that now with my current setup or do I need AMS 1.05 or 1.00. If so where can I download them.

     1 March 2000, 00:58 GMT

Re: Re: Universal OS v1.10, Julien Muchembled Defeats HW2 Limit
juvenile226

I have a hw2 ams 1.05 ti-89 calc, and my question is why doesn't the grayscale work for SMQ, is there anything out there to fix this? also, does the new bomberboy game compatible with the new doorsos v .93?

     1 March 2000, 02:02 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Universal OS v1.10, Julien Muchembled Defeats HW2 Limit
arsenius

you should use the plusshell version and gray4lib for hardware version two. You can get both on this site.
Otherwise on the doors version the colors are backwards
(dark on light and light on dark)

     1 March 2000, 03:54 GMT


Re: Re: Universal OS v1.10, Julien Muchembled Defeats HW2 Limit
juvenile226

does this new universal os v1.10 work for ams 1.05?

     1 March 2000, 02:03 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Universal OS v1.10, Julien Muchembled Defeats HW2 Limit
Ryan Pelletier  Account Info

I beleve so, but it isn't necessary just use 1.02

     1 March 2000, 20:51 GMT

Confusing!
Robert Xeon Smith
(Web Page)

First of all, let me say that I have a TI-92+, old-style (with the module) and ROM 1.01, using PlusShell v0.9alpha and converted Fargo II programs. I use a BASIC shell to access my programs - I love RetroTech. But I still have a comment to make:

This is CONFUSING as all heck. There are TI-89s with Hardware Versions 1 and 2, TI-92s with Hardware Versions 1 and 2, ROMs from 1.00, 1.01, and 1.05 to 2.03. And there doesn't seem to be a single solution for every setup - assembler programs work haphazardly on half the setups, and not at all on the other half. What someone needs to do is write a single program that will allow all assembly programs to work on all calculators, all hardware versions, all ROMs. There may need to be a kernel, there might not have to be one. A fancy graphical interface is unnecessary. A small program size is unnecessary Only the capability to run assembly programs from the Home Screen (by typing PHOENIX(), say) is necessary. THAT programmer will get a lot of people's respect.

S.T.L.

     1 March 2000, 08:17 GMT


Re: Confusing!
Samir Ribic  Account Info
(Web Page)

In addition to hardware and ROM versions there are shells and libraries versions. The universal solution is

1) Write shell independant programs. This will make a bit longer ROM calls but programs will not depend from shells and libraries. Plusshell assembler has option Nostub, also TI GCC

2) To avoid dependance between TI89/TI92+ do not read keyboard directly. Use ngetch function instead.

3) If possible, paint the screen as you have TI89. In the rest of screen write manuals that will be visible only on TI92+. Or, paint the screen using TIOS functions only and use scaling factors.

4) Sorry, restrict machine code to 8K. There are launchers and protection breakers, but they will not work with eventual AMS 2.04 or something. As you can separate program and data to different files, 8K is often enough.

5) Keep your hands of interrupt vectors. They are in the protected area and no warranty that TI will not make new hardware release that will prohib you to change them, although currently changed interrupt vectors work with all TI89/92+ calcs.

6) Previous rule prohibits grayscale. Avoid grayscale if possible.

     1 March 2000, 09:57 GMT

Re: Universal OS v1.10, Julien Muchembled Defeats HW2 Limit
Warmage  Account Info

I have a little question.. i heard that AMS2.03 had a feature to recover archive memory.. well how do you do this?

     1 March 2000, 23:50 GMT


Re: Re: Universal OS v1.10, Julien Muchembled Defeats HW2 Limit
Sean Barnes  Account Info

This feature is automatic. Anytime that the calculator is reset (2nd-Lock-On or 2nd-Left-Right), the archive will be restored. If you have any flash applications or maybe even if you have a lot of archived files, a progress indicator will be on the screen. Some people have said that the restore feature doesn't recover all archived files but I have not noticed it on my TI-92+.

By the way, is anybody else upset that TI-92+ ROM 2.0x seems to be ignored. Assembly programs will run just fine on either HW version (I tested it on HW2), but no one ever patched any of the games for the new ROM. The TI-89 had several games patched right away. Oh well, whenever TI releases the SDK things might get a little more organized.
-Sean Barnes

     2 March 2000, 00:35 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Universal OS v1.10, Julien Muchembled Defeats HW2 Limit
Zeljko Juric  Account Info
(Web Page)

I am afraid that even releasing of SDK will not help. The people don't want to accept changes. Even after I documented nearly 300 TIOS entries (in TIGCCLIB manual), including LEGAL methods for accessing VAT etc, programmers continue to use dirty methods which are AMS-dependent...

     2 March 2000, 08:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Universal OS v1.10, Julien Muchembled Defeats HW2 Limit
Reno  Account Info

I just wish the 89 were more like the 86, in terms of how assembly programs are run (non-shell/kernel dependant, no libraries, more stable)

     2 March 2000, 22:05 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Universal OS v1.10, Julien Muchembled Defeats HW2 Limit
Ryan Johnson  Account Info

I agree. I'm, afraid to use ASM programs on my TI-89 for fear that all the kernels/shells/libraries/etc. might cause my calculator to crash.

     13 March 2000, 04:57 GMT

Re: Universal OS v1.10, Julien Muchembled Defeats HW2 Limit
I_Need_a_Monk!  Account Info

Julien, all I have to say is YOU ARE AWESOME. Thanks for your hard work, buddy, keep it coming. After months of dry math-only TI89 usage, I can finaly play some games again. As I stated in my previous posts, all it takes is someone to sit down and pound it out. Thanks again Julien
Peace Out!

     2 March 2000, 03:40 GMT

Re: Re: Universal OS v1.10, Julien Muchembled Defeats HW2 Limit
aoejedi  Account Info
(Web Page)

WOLOLO!

     3 March 2000, 00:06 GMT


Re: Re: Universal OS v1.10, Julien Muchembled Defeats HW2 Limit
levine  Account Info

> After months of dry math-only TI89 usage...

This is something I just never understood. Games on a calculator are fun - to a point. I remember when I first got my 85 back in 96 or so, and I would show off Asteroids to some friends, maybe a little ZTetris or something. But after awhile (year or so, usually less) I don't see how anyone can get such a kick out of games. "Look! I'm playing Tetris - IN CLASS! Woo!" is only fun for a very short amount of time.

Maybe I'm just getting too old for this sort of thing.

Levine

     5 March 2000, 22:32 GMT

Re: Universal OS v1.10, Julien Muchembled Defeats HW2 Limit
dLo-aZn  Account Info
(Web Page)

FINALLY! THANK YOU GUYS SOOOO MUCH!!!

     2 March 2000, 07:28 GMT

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