It has been years since I have seen a Window 3.1X machine. I remember using one, but that was before I even knew what a calculator was.

All the computers at my school are runnig Windows XP with SP2, or they are a piece of junk Mac. I guess that is what I get for going to a scholl the first year it is opened.

I really hope your insulting pre Os 9, pre G3 macs or else I will be seriously offended

I don't mean to offend. But I don't think they fall under that criteria. I don't know exactley, haven't been forced to use one yet. Sorry, I grew up on DOS and Windows, and you can't change me!

Amen, Brother!

>>I really hope your insulting pre Os 9, pre G3 macs or else I will be seriously offended

Um... OS 9.X sucks and G3s suck. G4s are obsolete. My Win98 computer with 64MB RAM and a 350MHz Pentium II does better than a OS 9.2 iMac G3 with 160 MB RAM.

Sure, compare old OS's...but go ahead and try to compare the G5 iMac to any PC. It will blow them out of the water. By the way, you can't really use GHz ratings in the comparison, because they are measured differently. A 1 GHz mac is about 3 times as fast as a 1 GHz PC...

Hahahahaha nutcase... The new dual-core opterons are way faster than any G5! And I agree that Windows sucks, but IF YOU HAVE A MAC, HOW ARE YOU GONNA PLAY ALL THOSE GREAT COMPUTER GAMES?????????

2 words:
DUAL BOOT.
Windows sucks.
Damn monopoly!

You, um, can't run Windows and Mac OS on the same hardware.

Buy a $500 mac, or use linux with Gnome!
My dad has both of his computers hooked up to the same monitor.
All he has to do is tap scroll lock twice, and he changes computers!
It's even better than a dual boot.

That is what we like to call a KVM* switch. Yes, it is easier than dual boot, but better? I would have to say that it would be damned hard to compare them as they have different benifits and drawbacks.

*I may have gotten those letters in the wrong order.

-W-

No, you got the order right.

Keyboard
Video
Mouse
=
KVM

Right...
Someone actually believed the apple benchmark. Go to their website, the company that did the benchmark turned of HyperThreading, SSE, and many other functions of the pentium, and at fix-point it still beat the G5.
Who said you have to use Windows? There is Linux, Unix...

Then again Windows tends to be more unstable than Mac OS...

people who whine about stability in windows need to take care of it better. Yes it's unneccessarily time-consuming, but if you tune your windows configuration nicely and always kill any unnecessary processes, it's -very- stable.

Who paid you to say that?
It's bad ram management that always crashes windows.
Linux and Unix give a program a certain ammount of ram to run in, and kill it if it goes outside of it.
Windows, however, lets programs take up the ram assigned to other tasks, thus resulting in a crash.
Proof: I crashed a windows computer clicking a popup add until it froze.

I really don't understand the memory management in Windows ME...at first it had 128 MB of RAM, usually had ~10-20 MB free and a few MB in virtual memory, IIRC. After I added another 128 MB, it had ~60 MB free and still used some of the virtual memory. Everything about that is just illogical...

Sorry, what I meant is that my WinME machine started out with 128 MB of RAM, then I added another 128.

Yes, I have seen something very similar with my machine. I have 512M ram and I usually have about 300M free but all the "free" RAM is buffered so if I use more than about 300M of RAM, I have to write to swap and this slows the system down a bunch because my hard drive is a slow 5400 rpm ATA/100 unit.

Anybody know much about Linux memory management?

MAC's suck altogether. WINDOWS RULES! (EAT IT, APPLE!!!)

You would be a fool to eat that apple.

You see, Sir Alan Turing, the "father of the computer" (whose work cracking the Enigma machine ended up producing the world's first real computer, "Colossus") was a homosexual. In the 1950s this was not socially acceptable, and he revealed this naively when reporting a robbery - he was arrested and agreed to be put on treatment to "cure" his homosexuality. This treatment made him depressed and obese, and he ended his life by injecting an apple with cyanide and taking a bite out of it.
His work was not credited until relatively recently, as his operations at Bletchley Park were strictly top-secret.

Strictly speaking, it was never actually confirmed Turing himself posioned the apple (a murder is theoretically still possible), as no farewell letter has ever been found. It was, however, very well known he was seriously depressed.
Then again, it's kind of understandable. While the Bletchley Park group (which was led by Turing) did not actually win the war for England, they did help tremendously. He was then rewarded for his work (which was only recently (not even ten years ago) declassified, so nobody knew about it) by having all his security clearances revoked (so he couldn't continue his work) because he happened to like men instead of women.

Just sad.

whatever...

I have a 12+ year old MAC with OS 8.1 and it is STILL MORE RELIABLE THAN MY NEW LAPTOP WITH WINDOWS XP!!!

Also I have a old pc with win3.1 and dos5.0 at my grandparents house. It's also more riliable. (see later post for details)

Shut your mouth or else I will have to purchase an airline ticket to punch you in the face!!! Mac SUCKS (except OS X which is OK, but not great). Moreover, G1s/G2s/G3s/G4s are all obsolete and slow by todays standards.

I'm not sure that G1s/G2s ever existed but...

What the hell is your problem? Were ou hit over the head when or were little, or are you just retarded by birth. No one here needs your idiocy and mulitple exclaimation points. Flat statements without sufficient or reliable sources are moot, as no one here cares about your opinion.

Maybe if you were not being such an ass about it, we might. The very fact that you decide to take the negative approach makes you lose credibility. You can shut your trap or yuo can leave. If you are going to make statements are are obviously going to be debated, debate them sinsibly. No one likes a flamer.

-Though I should have better things to worry about than insipid prats, I am W-

Good point. Or, at least say "I don't like Macs", rather than "MAC SUX!!!", to make it clearer that it's your own opinion.

After all, didn't Pratchett say "Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign of a diseased mind"?

YOU shut YOUR mouth(s). Macs aren't any better than PCs and vice versa. OS X may be more stable than WinXP, but Microsoft will let computer manufacturers put their OS on their computers, which is why Macs today are like a nothingith of the market. Steve Jobs should learn a thing or two from Microsoft.

*nix is more stable than both of them.

Do you support monopolies?
HUH?!

You ignorance is funny.
MacOS runs on Unix underpinnings!
But since ignorance is bliss, I'll let you enjoy it for a little long.

IDC, Either way, linux is still more stable than Mac!

Yeah, that point has been made, several times. The difference between you saying it and others saying it, is their goal was not to piss others off. I am sorry that you learned poor internet ediquate, but your kind is not wanted here.

This really sucks to come back and find only this. It is almost enough to make me not want to write any programs for the thought that people like you are to use them.

-W-

"G1" Mac chips were the 680x0 series chips, such as the 68040 LCII I used for many years at school. The "G2" chips were the first PowerPC 601/603e chips. These G1 and G2 designations never really existed, but that's what they are. All are Motorola chips, and Motorola makes the G3 and G4 chips. IBM makes G5 CPUs.