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File Ratings Added to Directories
Posted by Michael on 16 October 2004, 00:26 GMT

You may have noticed that all directories in our file archives now contain a column titled "Rating." For each file, there is a graphical indicator of that file's rating. The number of illuminated bars directly corresponds to the file's numerical rating, rounded to the nearest integer. The bars are color-coded to help you easily ascertain ratings at a glance. You can also click on the column heading to view the files in a directory sorted descending by rating. For an example, look at TI-83 Plus Assembly Games (Ion). Feel free to ooh and aah but most importantly, rate files!

Update: Apparently a few people are raising an issue that only the top screenful or so of files in the example directory have been rated. This is because the link is to the directory sorted by rating. Let's read articles more carefully, please.

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Color of the rating bars!
Timmc Account Info
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Heh, not that it's THAT important. Could the border/background be changed to a navy blue theme like the rest of the sites current layout? At the moment they just don't seem to fit in.

Reply to this comment    16 October 2004, 06:55 GMT

Re: File Ratings Added to Directories
Sam3.14 Account Info
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I think this is great, but there is one small problem I've noticed. If you sort by rating, programs with very low ratings are placed above programs with no rating. I think that maybe the very low rated files should be put at the bottom.

Reply to this comment    16 October 2004, 12:56 GMT

Re: Re: File Ratings Added to Directories
calkfreak83  Account Info
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Well, if the file has no rating, you have no idea whether it is bad or good, so, therefore, they are "unknown." The files with bad rating could be better than the ones without rating because few people take the time to rate files if they are horribly sucky. On the other hand, if the files are good, people tend to rate them.

I still think that there should be a link to rate the file. If you download the file one day, the next day, you would have to rate it. I know some people don't try recently downloaded programs the same day they download them, so there could also be a "Rate Later" choice. If you were ready to rate the file, a "Rate Now" choice would be there. The site could install a time and date of the download into a cookie, and after 24 hours had passed and you were on the site, a link would come up saying this.

Reply to this comment    16 October 2004, 14:16 GMT


Re: Re: Re: File Ratings Added to Directories
calkfreak83  Account Info
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Ah... Even better idea. You know the little icons by the name of the program that tell you how it is rated? The site could make that something like a radio button. You click on the icon to rate it, and, depending on where you clicked on the icon, it rates the file.

Example:
User: "Hey, I want to rate this file." [clicks on the sixth bar of the icon]
Ticalc.org typewriting monkeys: "This file has been rated. You gave it a 6 out of 10. Thanks for rating!!!"

This or the soulution I spoke of in the last post would both be possible solutions to the rating problem at ticalc.org

Reply to this comment    16 October 2004, 14:37 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: File Ratings Added to Directories
Sam3.14 Account Info
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That sounds great, but do you think that if it were made so easy to rate a file, people might just rate files they'd never seen?

Reply to this comment    16 October 2004, 15:21 GMT


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calkfreak83  Account Info
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Well, that's where the cookie comes into play. It would check to see if you had previously downloaded the file.

I know some loser will probably just download the file, not try it out, and rate it to screw up the whole system, but some people are like that. (...and should be banned from the site if you ask me)

Reply to this comment    16 October 2004, 15:36 GMT


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Chivo  Account Info

A cookie isn't a good place to store that information. It would be better to store it on the ticalc server(s).

Reply to this comment    17 October 2004, 02:05 GMT


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Joey Gannon  Account Info
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Then you'd have to log in and download the file again to rate it. Ugh. I think the current way is complicated enough to deter abuse without being too difficult to do.

Reply to this comment    20 October 2004, 05:37 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: File Ratings Added to Directories
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Well that would be a good idea, but since the bars are so small, many people would have trouble positioning the pointer in just the right spot to rate the file appropriately.

Reply to this comment    16 October 2004, 15:33 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: File Ratings Added to Directories
calkfreak83  Account Info
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Enlarge the bars. Though, if this were to happen, the gap between the name of the file and the date released would have to be shortened, and some zip names would have to take up two lines.

Reply to this comment    16 October 2004, 15:40 GMT


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no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Yeah, and that would take up too much space and it would be a pain... I like it the way it is. If that was the way it was set up, then it would be easier for people to screw stuff up AND rate files without even looking at them.

Reply to this comment    17 October 2004, 15:17 GMT


Rating Explanations
Axcho  Account Info

Maybe under each rating there should be an explanation - a word that corresponds to each number. Here are my suggested names. 1 - Worthless. 2 - Horrible. 3 - Bad. 4 - Not Too Bad. 5 - Okay. 6 - Above Average. 7 - Pretty Good. 8 - Nice. 9 - Excellent. 10 - Perfect.

Reply to this comment    25 October 2004, 04:04 GMT

No rated-icon explanation
Jorrit Tijben  Account Info

Now that's a good idea. I have only one (somewhat unrelated) question:

On top of each page is explained what each icon means. Shouldn't there be an explanation for the rated-file icons (with the star)?

Reply to this comment    16 October 2004, 15:40 GMT


Re: No rated-icon explanation
calkfreak83  Account Info
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Um... The little star means that they have been reviewed, not rated.

Reply to this comment    16 October 2004, 15:44 GMT

Re: Re: No rated-icon explanation
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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You kind of just proved his point :-)

Reply to this comment    17 October 2004, 08:44 GMT

Re: Re: No rated-icon explanation
Jorrit Tijben  Account Info

Whoops, little mistake. However the issue remains.

Reply to this comment    17 October 2004, 11:00 GMT


Re: Re: No rated-icon explanation
Axcho  Account Info

I agree that there should be an explanation of the star-icon. At first I thought it meant that it was a featured program or an especially good program, but that is not true. I find it annoying that many people are most likely confused about this and yet no one does anything to fix it. The reason I think that people are confused is that when I wrote a review saying how bad this one program was and not to download it, that program now gets more downloads than ever. I'm guessing that people don't want to bother opening the file description since there is already one in the lists of programs and if they don't suspect that the star means a review, the downloaders will have no reason to click the file info icon. So, would somebody put an explanation at the top of the screen as was previously suggested? Thanks

Reply to this comment    19 October 2004, 21:17 GMT

Re: File Ratings Added to Directories
Coolv  Account Info

Nice-but the graphics are a bit weird...

Reply to this comment    16 October 2004, 17:57 GMT


Re: Re: File Ratings Added to Directories
W Hibdon  Account Info
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I did, too, notice that they did not really match the feel of the rest of tha page. The bars should be shades of blue, or something like that.

-W-

Reply to this comment    16 October 2004, 21:43 GMT


Re: Re: Re: File Ratings Added to Directories
Jake Griffin  Account Info
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yeah, like a 10/10 could be a dark blue like the headings of the posts, and the 0/0, well 1/0 because you don't see 0/0...could be a very light blue, or maybe even white...

Reply to this comment    18 October 2004, 18:44 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: File Ratings Added to Directories
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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True...

However blue is not a shade that is comonly used to refer to good and bad. Red means bad, green means good. Thats pretty well known though many countries. Its kind of like a stoplight...red/yellow/green

The only people this hurts are color-blind :-/

Reply to this comment    18 October 2004, 20:21 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: File Ratings Added to Directories
calkfreak83  Account Info
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Ooh... yeah. One of my friends is only 16 (got his licence 2 months ago), and has already gotten 4 tickets for running stoplights. I feel for him =(

Reply to this comment    18 October 2004, 23:22 GMT

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