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File Rating Toplist added
Posted by Magnus on 3 April 2004, 17:08 GMT

Now that we have collected a couple of ratings on the files in our archives (about 2500 of them), we have now added a toplist based on file rating. Rating will also be listed on the file information pages.

We are using a weighted average instead of a straight one. This is done so that a file that has received a lot of good ratings will get a higher average than one that has just received a few, and then the same for files with low ratings. For this reason, it is possible for a file to get a weighted average that is slightly above 10 or below 1.

So, once again, go rate files! Just select the rating you want to give the file on the file information page-

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Re: File Rating Toplist added
Patrick Davidson  Account Info
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This is definitely the best addition to ticalc.org's features in the past week. But being the best shouldn't stop you from getting better, so I recommend:

Statistics by calculator for the top rated files. After all, if you are like me and want TI-85 programs, it's not that useful to see that various TI-89 and TI-83 Plus programs are highly ranked when there is only one TI-85 program in the list, which I already have. Also, it might help to lower the minimum number of votes for the TI-85 (and maybe some others) since they may not have enough users to get lots of ratings on each file.

Reply to this comment    3 April 2004, 23:00 GMT

Re: Re: File Rating Toplist added
chemoautotroph Account Info
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Yeah, like lower the minumum on the TI-80 to zero :)

Reply to this comment    3 April 2004, 23:17 GMT


Re: Re: File Rating Toplist added
Barrett Anderson Account Info
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agree... and also, this whole rating thing will only be useful if you can sort by rating in each category. seeing the top 25 files would be kind of pointless when most people download more than 25 files in their lifetime.

Reply to this comment    4 April 2004, 03:40 GMT


Re: Re: Re: File Rating Toplist added
pacHa  Account Info
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yes, the list should calc-specific and display more than 25 files maybe...because there are more than 25 _amazing_ games and progs in the whole archive IMO

Reply to this comment    4 April 2004, 08:09 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: File Rating Toplist added
Jordan Ferguson  Account Info

Um, not ALL amazing programs are games. only 15 of the top 25 are. In my opinion, most programs that can be deemed "amazing" are NOT games, because pretty much all games require the use of some non-game program, and that program is usually pretty amazing. MirageOS, ION, ZShell, TIGCC, and many others are examples of this...

Reply to this comment    4 April 2004, 23:01 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: File Rating Toplist added
Jordan Ferguson  Account Info

Oh, I'm sorry...after posting I realized I had missed the "and prgms" part. :) oops.

Reply to this comment    4 April 2004, 23:02 GMT

Re: File Rating Toplist added
Patrick Davidson  Account Info
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And by the way, exactly when are the statistics pages updated?

Reply to this comment    3 April 2004, 23:33 GMT

Re: Re: File Rating Toplist added
jrock7286  Account Info
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Magnus mentioned in a thread higher up: daily with all the other stats.

Reply to this comment    4 April 2004, 04:19 GMT


Re: Re: Re: File Rating Toplist added
Patrick Davidson  Account Info
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I asked when, not how often. That is, at what time of day?

Reply to this comment    4 April 2004, 07:48 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: File Rating Toplist added
Barrett Anderson Account Info
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from what i've seen, some time between 0:00 GMT and 1 or 2 hours after...

Reply to this comment    4 April 2004, 08:21 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: File Rating Toplist added
jrock7286  Account Info
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ahhh...I see

Reply to this comment    4 April 2004, 22:34 GMT


Re: Re: File Rating Toplist added
Magnus Hagander  Account Info
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It is done as a part of a large set of jobs that are started around 04:00 CEST. (That'll be CET in the winter). The exact time it runs depends on a lot of factors in the earlier jobs launched at that time. But it shuold never be more than an hour after that.

Reply to this comment    4 April 2004, 12:25 GMT

Re: File Rating Toplist added
nyall Account Info
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Could each file's ratings also be added to it's author's author page? I would find this useful. Thanks.

-Samuel

Reply to this comment    4 April 2004, 06:22 GMT

Re: Re: File Rating Toplist added
pacHa  Account Info
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yes, this would be useful, maybe with the number of ratings

Reply to this comment    4 April 2004, 08:11 GMT

Re: Re: File Rating Toplist added
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Hey, that's a good idea :)

Reply to this comment    4 April 2004, 15:27 GMT


Re: Re: File Rating Toplist added
pg Account Info
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It is already shown on your file pages. But only when there are more than 4 votes.

Reply to this comment    4 April 2004, 20:38 GMT


Re: Re: Re: File Rating Toplist added
jrock7286  Account Info
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No, I believe they mean on the "manage author information" page. The one you get to by clicking "Your Account" then "Manage Author Information." That or they are talking about the page that comes up when you click on the little orange file like the one at the top of this post by my name...make sense? Then you wouldn't have to look in all of you rfiles to see what they are rated...you would have them all on one page...

Reply to this comment    4 April 2004, 22:37 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: File Rating Toplist added
nyall Account Info
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Personally for me I am talking about this page:

http://www.ticalc.org/
archives/files/authors/
40/4070.html

Or click above url.

-Samuel

Reply to this comment    4 April 2004, 23:44 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: File Rating Toplist added
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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Yes, I believe it would be more useful on the Author informtion page as the example above states. More useful than the Manage Author Information page since those aren't viewed very often.

Reply to this comment    5 April 2004, 02:49 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: File Rating Toplist added
Ben Cherry  Account Info
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perhaps if they actually had some use they would be viewed more often. It seems like "manage author information" is a misnomer, because you cant really "manage" anything (except deleting pending files). I only use it to quickly check stats on my files and check for ratings and reviews. It would be nice if you could update files and/or info on the files (name, description, etc.) from the manage author info page. It would make it easier to correctly update your file and not end up with two different versions of the same file. I'm not complaining, im just offering suggestions. Keep up the good work.

Reply to this comment    5 April 2004, 20:59 GMT

Re: File Rating Toplist added
archnaid Account Info
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Glancing over the toplist, I notice that zShell is number one...I have no problem with that, but its weighted average is currently a 10.03. 10.03? The rating scale, the last time I checked, only went from 1-10; how can zShell possibly have a weighted average over ten?

Reply to this comment    4 April 2004, 16:05 GMT

Re: Re: File Rating Toplist added
archnaid Account Info

Whoops, rereading the news item gives an explanation for this...I need to pay more attention next time :)

Reply to this comment    4 April 2004, 17:01 GMT


Re: Re: File Rating Toplist added
Ben Cherry  Account Info
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10.03? earlier the average was stated as 10.12 i think. Sooooo, who around here decided to vote zshell down because it was winning?

Reply to this comment    4 April 2004, 21:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: File Rating Toplist added
jrock7286  Account Info
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Well, going from 43 votes to 45, the amount of change possible is *gets out calculator* about 0.4053 points if both new votes were a 1 (this is ignoring the "weighted" stuff because I don't know how that works exactly). Because the voes changed it by only 0.09, I conclude that the votes averaged *gets calculator again* 4 1/2. So, because I know that a friend of mine voted an eight AFTER the 43 votes were posted, SOMEONE must have voted a ONE in their extreme hatrid toward our beloved master, namely, Magnus! I am the best math detective in the WORLD!!! MUAHAHAHA!!!

Reply to this comment    4 April 2004, 22:44 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: File Rating Toplist added
Ben Cherry  Account Info
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Oh
...
...
Wow
...
I didnt expect anything like that.
Thanks for figuring it out, kind of.

Reply to this comment    4 April 2004, 23:57 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: File Rating Toplist added
ti_guy  Account Info

Lol, that would make a good T.V. show. The Math Detectives. I bet it would be put on discovery channel.

Reply to this comment    5 April 2004, 01:11 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: File Rating Toplist added
nyall Account Info
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Ever watch mathnet, a feature of square one tv, a show that used to be on PBS?

-Samuel

Reply to this comment    5 April 2004, 03:23 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: File Rating Toplist added
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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LOL! That's pretty good :) Now who voted it a one!? Somebody didn't get the HONEST RATINGS idea.

Reply to this comment    5 April 2004, 22:18 GMT

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