Survey posted 2001-01-07 17:22 by Andy Selle.

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Whut the hell?!? If it isn't more advanced, then I don't want it. Maybe if it were a Cache Muny Platinum edition with some ice in the grill.

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What the hell is wrong with you?!? Didn't you read the features? It's got 16 Mhz and has so much Archive space that you can hold over 90 applications. You don't call that more features? The more applications, the more features.
And for all those TI-86 fans, I just want to say that this calculator is faster, more memory and definitely has better looks.

Um, no. Please do not bash the best calculator ever made which can blow any 83 out of the water.

Not the TI-83 Plus (as far as memory) or the TI-83 Plus SE.

unfortunately, the 83 plus silver wil STILL only suppot 24k of ram, thus severely limiting the working space for games, and aside from that, after dealing with an 85 ('till the lcd cracked) then an 86, I could not tolerate the incredibly poor screen of the 82-83 series. Why is there no 86 plus? Anybody from TI care to comment?

I think its because the 83 jacked the program.8xp file format. Seriously, I have owned an 83+ (until it got stolen) and an 86 and by far the 86 has WAY better progs and WAY better graphical capabilities.

Yo, is torrentrue (or whatever it is) gonna shaddup anytime soon? TI-89's are better than the TI-83+ SE, no matter what so yeah.

The TI-89 is the best and from owning a HW1 and HW2 I should know

definitely.

Couldn't agree with you more.

The 89 is the best of both worlds. It has the many mathematical functions of the 86, and the large amount of FlashROM of the 83+/SE. Plus, the screen res is only beaten ny the 92-type "PLT"s. Even though I have an 89 and an 83+SE, I'm still getting an 86. I feel left out of the graphics and game worldm of the 86. I also can't wait for the new functions.

no way! THE 92+ IS MUCH BETTER!

i have an 89 (i bought it to run my 68k programs on the SAT Test), and I really hate it (although it is still better than the 83+ i had). The keyboard is horrible, and so any and all programing has to be done with Graph Link, which greatly complicates debugging. there is no reasonable way to type notes, and worse, the screen is so small that I really do wish I could bring a magnifying glass to the SAT because dialog boxes are displayed in tiny print. All in all, the 89 is basically the same as the 92+, but with a traditional style keyboard and screen, which is (inho) inappropriate on a 68k calc.

as for my 92+: I LOVE IT! as a matter of fact, I keep it in my pocket wherever I go (believe it or not)
the solve() function can easily simplify equations, and give equation answers to math problems which my teacher requires, and the rest of the CAS allows me to do all the things that I cannot do in Algebra, and much more. The games for it are even more impressive. Command and Conquer, a classic PC game can be played on the calculator, as well as a number of 3D high resolution games using the FAT engine. TI's numerous organizer apps allow me to easily manage my schedule, the Integrated Desktop allows me to keep only main programs visible, not their subroutines. TICT's ppg compressor allows me to shrink my programs (i did that to command and conquer), and the latest version of ttstart enables program compatibility with all AMS versions. In addition, I keep all the readme files for my calculator programs in TICT ebooks which are compressed...

The TI-92+ puts Palm Pilots and all other TI Calculators to shame...
and that goes for the V200 as well, since it doesn't fit in my pocket.

The 86 is better in functionality than any 82/83(+(S)) but it isn't the best calculator ever made. I believe the 89 would get that title.

Well, the TI-89 will not do you any good if it isn't allowed in the school. And as for the TI-86, Just because it has advanced mathematical cababilities dosen't make it superior to the TI-83 plus. They can be programmed using applications on the 83 plus. Actually, the TI-83 Plus has the application cababilities, and the TI-86 dosen't. Applications can be used to program advanced funcions and procedures that TI didn't program in. The TI-86 has absolutely no fault tolerance, while the Flash ROM can be used to restore some, if not all, of what was deleted by the crash (given that you back up every once in a while). You can argue that the graph link will back up the files for the TI-86, but that is much more inconvenient. Finally, the TI-83 Plus is MUCH easier to use. I one both calculators, and I barely use the TI-86, simply because it is not nearly as easy to use.

TI-89's are allowed at school and on the SAT tests and stuff.

I'm sorry to break this to you but the TI-89s are not allowed on the SAT and ACT tests. They are not allowed due to their Trigonometry capabilities and since they can preform many Calculus Functions

I'm sorry to break this to you but experience tells us that either the TI-89 IS allowed on the SAT, or the proctors are too stupid not to tell the difference between a TI-89 and a four-function calculator.

no offense to anyone meant, but the 89 is allowed on the SAT's. I don't know about the ACT's because I didn't take them, but, as of a year ago, there was controversy over whether 89s should be allowed, and they ended up not banning them. In fact, in one of the survey questions you answer when you take the SAT, ti-89 is a choice when they ask you which calculator you used.

They may have changed something in the last year, and if they did, I stand corrected. Otherwise, though, 89 are allowed on the SAT.

well, just FYI, i bougth my TI-89 just about a week ago, and right on the package, it says "permittied on the SAT and other standardized tests". in other words, you can use it on teh SAT but not the ACT

well, just FYI, i bougth my TI-89 just about a week ago, and right on the package, it says "permittied on the SAT and other standardized tests". in other words, you can use it on teh SAT but not the ACT. That is percisely why i also carry an 83+ in my backpack also :-)

The 89 that i brought to use on the ACT didn't help me one bit. Dont get me wrong their great on home work and games, but I couldn't use it on the ACT.

Here we go with the best of the best: an 86 shell for the purpose of using the calculator as a 86(for example on the ACT) with the hardware of an 89. Dubbed the 86+, because the 83+ was better than the 86 so the 86+ is better than the 89. And all wrapped up in a yellow cover.

LOL

The TI-86's are crap compared to most calculators and especially to the TI-83+ Silver!!

WRONG
I've had experience with both and the 86 is better.

TI-86 as the "best calc?" Yea right, forget it. TI-89's are kings. They have *much* better games, and they have *much* more memory. With AMS 2.0x you have 720K of archive. Why in the world would you think that TI-86's were the best?

A HW1 TI89's 68000 runs at 10.5mhz, which runs faster than a z80 running at _15_ mhz. And the HW2 TI89s run at 12 mhz =) Don't compare clockspeeds; they mean nothing when the arcitechure of the chips is different.

you'll have to excuse me, I thought that comment said _TI89_. I really need to look into getting glasses... and I really need to not jump into "defend 68k calcs" mode so fast =)

ya

YEA,MAMMOTH IS GONNA BUY ONE!!! I am going to buy one, considering my ti-83plus was STOLEN!!! And with all the extra apps space, archive space, and a cool new look, this is gonna be one kick butt calculator! And I can not vouch for how better or worse it is compared to a ti-86, or 89, because I have never used one, although the games do appear to be much better than what us ti-83plus users have (where is MARIO, ppl?? Sometime soon??). C ya later
Mikey :)
Oh yea, visit my website, WWW.angelfire.com/tx3/mikeymonkey

The HW2 TI-92+ also runs on a 12MHz 68k processor like the TI-89, and as fast as that really old computer (or now "doorstop") that I've got sitting in my basement. :-)

Come on you guys A TI-83+ by any other name (or appearance) will still be exactly the same. Just because they throw in some more memory doesn't make it be able to do symbolic manipulation, 3d graphing or any of the other things that you can get on a TI-89. The TI-89 is still the superior calculator. There is no reason to buy a TI-83+ SE. The TI-89 is still the fastest, most powerful, has the best games, is the best for the amatuer programmer and is the easiest to use in math with its menu interface.

I too would like a shiny silver TI calc but I can wait until a TI-89 SE comes out and you know it will and think of the amount of memory and speed that it could have...

You are completely and totally incorrect. The TI-83 Plus SE is the most advanced TI thusfar. It's has 1.54 megabytes of archive and 24K of ram. It's got a 16 megahertz processor too. And to top it all off, it has an awesome silver body and slide case. Beat that.

--NATE

"Most advanced"???? Well, I have a 4MB memory chip out here right next to me! Just think how many Apps it can hold! I'm gonna go get rid of the worthless TI-89!

i'll take your "worthless TI-89!" And it to my collection of a hw2 89 a 83 and an 83+.

the 89 is the best calc out there by far. . What other calc can do calculus (except the 92's) But in responce to that 4mb chip. .I have a Handspring visor Deluxe. .It has 8 megs build it. . Plus you can buy and 8 meg upgrade. . But other then that you can now make your own springboards. You can add up to 192 megs of flash rom to a spring board making the VDX. have 200 megs of storage space. This PDA beats any calc in my opinion. You can add/convert AND type of file to palm formats (even mp3's) I can also go on the internet with and and talk on AIM while im in school. . I dont think you can do that with any calc. (the 89 in the future possibly) . .. Now you know why Im out of the calc business. Because I've found better toys to play w/. muhaa

I have a compaq ipaq.
A color PDA with 32 megabytes of mem built in, sound recordings, word, excel, money, and great games just to name a few.
It has a 206 Mhz intel Mips based 32 bit strongarm processor all with the same size as your pirce of trash handspring. It beats any calc.
THIS IS NOT A JOKE
GO TO www.compaq.com then click products then goto handhelds
you will see it

Yeah. Well can your iPaq load the datebook in less than a second after you have unloaded it from memory (this is not deleting, this is going to your memory management screen and ending all tasks)? Can your iPaq store a spreadsheet app, wordprocessing app, and charting app in under 300 KB and still sychronize with MS Office on your desktop (see quickoffice at palmgear.com for more information)? Can you download a free C compiler (gcc for palm) and program it? Can you download a $30 compiler (On-board C) and program the thing on itself? Can you pick your software from a collection of 7811 titles (palmgear.com, Jan 12, 2001)? Can you plug in a phone module (Visor Phone, handspring.com) and have it work instantly, without glitches the first time and every time thereafter? Can your iPaq work with Linux or MacOS (palm.com has the palm desktop for many platforms available for download; hadspring is Windows and Mac ready right out of the box)? As for your games - I doubt you have a Wolfenstein clone available for FREE download (it is a really good clone too!). From my experience, I have seen most every Windows Powered or WinCE app ported to Palm OS or cloned (the good ones anyway). And most importantly - does your iPaq work with you, or do you work with it?

To answer your questions, the iPAQ can do many of these things. You can download Linux for your iPAQ (yes, the same Linux you can run on your home PC), thus giving you access to all the software that can run on Linux. Can you download a free compiler? Of course, GCC. Can you download over 7811 software titles? Well, I don't know, but Linux has a lot of software. Can you plug in a phone module? Well, the iPAQ has the ability to use PC cards, thus giving it access to many already-available cards such as: GPS cards, cell phone cards, 2GB+ hard drive cards, wireless Ethernet cards, 56K modem cards, etc. Can the iPAQ work with Linux and MacOS? I don't know about MacOS, but it can RUN Linux :-) About games - Linux has DOOM available for free - not a clone, but the actual game. And think of the possibilities with MAME! With 32MB of RAM, a 206 MHz processor, upgradeable Flash ROM like the TI-89, a great screen, the ability to use PC cards, and Linux, the iPAQ is truly a Pocket PC - Real PC power in the palm of your hand. For strict organizing tasks, the Palm or Visor is cheaper, but I like the iPAQ more :-)

Yes to everything

Why would you need a 206mhz processor on a PDA? Obviously Pocket PC is a resource hog. Sound recordings? The handspring has that. Color? The Prism has just as good color. Word? Excel? Money? All of those exist for PalmOS. Great games, well of course. Another thing, why would you need a 32-bit processor in a PDA? What are you gonna calculate with that? =P (Besides maybe 3d games, but it's a pda, not a gameboy).

Speed and just to say you have it.
Cool, Huh?
Did I mention it weighs SIX ounces
That's smaller and less weight than any graphing calc. that I know of.
The only drawback is price----$500
about $50 more than a Palm VII

the handspring's suck. i had one for about a week and it broke. the game are all crap, and shareware none the less. and not to mention it's el-cheapo calculator in it...

- skyraid

Handsprings are decent if you use them correctly. I didn't have the cash for a Prism and I wanted a color pda, so I went with the IIIc, but I like the Springboard feature. The games for the Palm IIIc own, so I dunno what you're talking about =)

i forgot to mention in my last post about the aim thing. first of all, you need the $175 modem. 2nd, you need a phone line going to it, and batteries for the modem. 3rd, it's not aim - it's the aol anywhere thing and it costs $2.50 an hour. oh, and by the way - i don't think your teachers would let you go online with that pos in school.