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TI Nspire POTY Voting Opens
Posted by Travis on 23 December 2010, 14:01 GMT

And now, the first ever Nspire POTY survey has been posted. This is it, the final category. Go for it!

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TI Nspire POTY Voting Opens
chris houston  Account Info

Frankly, I think that Ndless is the only true winner here. Without it the other programs would not even exist!
Although Ncaster and Nleash are pretty awesome.

Reply to this comment    23 December 2010, 17:36 GMT

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Kevin Ouellet Account Info
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I voted Ndless, because it's the second best TI-Nspire program release since the Nspire exists, behind Wacky Fun Random Numbar Generator v1.000000069. :P

Seriously, though, without Ndless, like the other comment above says, we wouldn't even have Block Dude Nspire, gbc4nspire, Ncaster, NESpire nor Nleash.

I wonder what would have happened if WFRNG was the only 2010 Nspire featured program, though... :P

Reply to this comment    23 December 2010, 17:53 GMT

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Adept  Account Info
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No matter how awesome the others are, ndless is the winner because there isn't programming without it. (I mean REALLY cool programming. (not basic)) Ndless fixed all the problems I had with the Nspire, and now we have cool stuff like BlockDude, NESpire, and gbcnspire. There should really be two winners, Ndless, and then a category for things made w/ Ndless!

Reply to this comment    23 December 2010, 18:13 GMT


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Keith Pierce  Account Info

I havent even got a chance to use either of these programs because I guess I bought my ti-nspire late,and i am stuck with the 2.1 os, and i right now cant...wait dont want to go for the click pad since touch is way better...hopefully a newer version for the ndless will be released for the touch pad. so I cant really vote.

Reply to this comment    23 December 2010, 18:20 GMT


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Kevin Ouellet Account Info
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You can actually downgrade to OS 2.0.1. Ndless 2.0 is currently under Alpha testing (see link attached to my post) so it's very buggy, but providing ExtendeD is not too busy and that not too many bugs arise, it should come out in the near future.

Reply to this comment    24 December 2010, 02:55 GMT


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TC01 Account Info

Specifically, though, the program that lets you downgrade is Nleash, one of the featured programs for this year.

Reply to this comment    24 December 2010, 16:12 GMT


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chris houston  Account Info
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I'm not certain about this, but can't you bring up the maint. menu, delete the OS (say... OS 2.1) and install another, older, OS(such as OS 1.1)? Honestly, I wasn't aware of a downgrading restriction. I have downgraded from 2.0 and 2.1 to 1.7 before, with no problems or error messages.

Reply to this comment    31 December 2010, 04:38 GMT


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Kevin Ouellet Account Info
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The anti-downgrade protection allows you to install OS 1.7 or higher. It blocks OS 1.1 through 1.6.

Reply to this comment    31 December 2010, 09:12 GMT

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apcalc Account Info

My vote went for Ndless! (Although, I was tempted to vote for Block Dude!)

Reply to this comment    23 December 2010, 21:01 GMT

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DavidG Account Info
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The winner is quite obvious: NDless.

Ndless made NSpire a decent calculator for programmers...

Reply to this comment    23 December 2010, 22:07 GMT

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Art_of_camelot Account Info
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Voted GBC4Nspire, since it was ambitiously developed BEFORE Ndless existed. ;D

Reply to this comment    25 December 2010, 10:24 GMT


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JBB Account Info

Nspire & nspire cas are such poor products that I don't see why anyone would waste their time developing programs for these soon to be extinct calculators. Could someone please explain?

Reply to this comment    28 December 2010, 16:31 GMT

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TC01 Account Info

I could argue that the TI-83+ is such a poor product- a ~30 year old processor running at 6 MHz with a tiny, color-less screen and a limited selection of programming languages (well, until Axe/BBC Basic anyway)- that there's no reason why anyone would want to program for it either...

Because people can? Because people have the calculators and would like to do more than OS lets them?

Reply to this comment    28 December 2010, 19:17 GMT


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JBB Account Info

Thank you for bringing up the color-less nspire/nspire cas screens. Have you seen the new Casio Prizm yet? Its color (YES COLOR!) screen is bright, vivid and awesome. Mean while, I have trouble reading the nspire screen in my class room. Seems to me that while TI is asleep, living in the last century, Casio is busy innovating.

Reply to this comment    29 December 2010, 20:06 GMT

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TC01 Account Info

Yes, I've seen the Prizm, and I agree with you, it's outrageous that the Nspire isn't color.

But the point I was trying to make is that I could ask your questions about the Nspire about z80 and 68k calculators as well.

Reply to this comment    29 December 2010, 23:35 GMT


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Kevin Ouellet Account Info
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I found the 83+, 84+, 86 and 98T screen easier to read than the Nspire, effectively. The Nspire contrast just sucks. The screen is also blurry. Seems like TI went back in time for screen hardware and programming capabilities. Casio Prizm has much lower RAM (61 KB instead of 32768) and processor speed, though (100 ish MHz instead of 150)

Reply to this comment    30 December 2010, 03:39 GMT


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Kevin Ouellet Account Info
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With Ndless you can do much more. Remember the calc is 150 MHz with 32 MB of RAM and archive. People will code for it as long as it's possible to crack it and as long as it's sold.

Reply to this comment    28 December 2010, 22:11 GMT


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JBB Account Info

Isn't that sort of like coding for the TI-86. Why bother? Kevin, let me ask you this. Ti comes out with the nspires which are mathematically weak compared to some of their own products while Casio innovates with an awesome color screen! Will TI ever produce a new product worth buying?

Reply to this comment    29 December 2010, 20:21 GMT


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Kevin Ouellet Account Info
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Unlike the TI-86, TI markets the Nspire very hard. TI didn't care about the 86: they wanted people to go for their new 89 and 92+ or stick with the weaker 83+. In the end, most people had 83+/89s so it was more worth it to program for them. Today it's the 89/92+/v200 series that are nearly dead. TI doesn't seem to support them anymore, unlike the TI-84+ and TI-Nspires. I would even say they market their Nspires harder than the 84+, now.

Also many schools now require a Nspire. The Nspire also got jailbreaked and now there are more Nspire coders than 68K coders. I hope the Casio Prizm affects TI sales enough to make them change their vision, but I wouldn't go to say to stop coding Nspire programs, simply because Nspire programs are still popular. Go to the top downloads section and you'll notice that some of the top 25 downloads are Nspire programs.

I think instead of trolling you should probably contribute something more constructive to this community.

Reply to this comment    30 December 2010, 03:36 GMT


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JBB Account Info

Trolling? Kevin, I have spoken to you politely so please don't insult me that way.

Btw, companies don't aggressively market products that have good sales. Just the opposite occurs which speaks to the fact that nspire/nspire cas sales have never been very good.

We hav watched the nspire program from it's inception and clearly TI has a classic case of denial. My

Reply to this comment    30 December 2010, 13:29 GMT


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Kevin Ouellet Account Info
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I said trolling because you kept insisting that people who made things like Ndless kept wasting their time, while in fact, it's the complete opposite. Trolling doesn't necessarily mean being rude or insulting: it can simply involves trying to instigate fights.

It doesn't matter if the Nspire is not sold as much as the 83+, lots of people still come to download Ndless every week. If it was a waste of time to code for the Nspire there wouldn't be many major releases anymore and very few people would discuss about the Nspire on forums.

But even then, if you really think it's so much a waste of time, then just don't download anything Nspire-related. Some people may just do programs simply to show they can be done. This is why programs like Unity and Illusiat 81 came out last year.

Reply to this comment    30 December 2010, 16:06 GMT


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JBB Account Info

Actually I didn't insist anything. I questioned if it was worth while. I said "Why bother?" None the less, Ndless is a major technological achievement that I applaud because of the message that it sends to TI, however I still question if it is wise to invest a chunk of time and effort developing a utility, or game program, for that calculator? I don't think so because out side of a few teachers who can't seem to demonstrate math without the crutch of a calculator I don't know anyone who is enthusiastic about nspire/nspire cas. So I asked "why bother?"

Reply to this comment    30 December 2010, 21:42 GMT

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