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Ndless 1.7 Update; Ncubate Released
Posted by Travis on 4 December 2010, 14:59 GMT

Ndless 1.7 has just made its way into the file archives. This update features OS 1.7 compatibility and the ability to perform calculator-to-calculator installation without a computer.

Olivier Armand (“ExtendeD”) has also released Ncubate, an enhanced version of Goplat's nspire_emu which adds save states and support for the GNU GDB C debugger.

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Re: Ndless 1.7 Update; Ncubate Released
DavidG Account Info
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Rumors (which are real, in fact) are being spread...

Ghosts whisper...

... shhhhhhh ...

...Ndless 2.0....... shhhhhh ...touchpad ... shhh

Reply to this comment    4 December 2010, 18:05 GMT

Re: Ndless 1.7 Update; Ncubate Released
Kevin Ouellet Account Info
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Awesome! I should downgrade to 1.7 at one point since I don't really need 2.0.1.

Reply to this comment    4 December 2010, 20:14 GMT

Re: Ndless 1.7 Update; Ncubate Released
TC01 Account Info

I wonder how long it is until TI removes OS 1.7 from their site now. :(

Fortunately I've already got a copy, should I ever get an Nspire.

Reply to this comment    4 December 2010, 20:37 GMT

Re: Re: Ndless 1.7 Update; Ncubate Released
TC01 Account Info
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I suppose I should add- see the URL under my name for links to download 1.7 from TI's site directly (And the 2.x OSes).

Reply to this comment    4 December 2010, 20:41 GMT


Re: Re: Ndless 1.7 Update; Ncubate Released
Kevin Ouellet Account Info
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You shouldn't have given then that idea, it's gone, now...

Just kidding, although I wouldn't be surprised if they removed it or disallowed hotlinking

Reply to this comment    4 December 2010, 20:53 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Ndless 1.7 Update; Ncubate Released
DavidG Account Info
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I don't have a copy, when I need one I'll get from someone.

They will definitely add a OS 2.x or 3.x release soon blocking ndless 1.7. They will figure out how (should take them a week) and then remove :(

Reply to this comment    4 December 2010, 22:22 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Ndless 1.7 Update; Ncubate Released
apcalc Account Info

I don't think TI will respond that quickly. The next OS Update is due in March (T^3 Conference). Honestly, I think the fact that OS 2.0 being released a week after Ndless 1.0 was a mere coincidence, considering that that was also T^3 time.

One thing I do fear is that TI will remove OS 1.7 from their servers soon.

Reply to this comment    5 December 2010, 04:32 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ndless 1.7 Update; Ncubate Released
DavidG Account Info
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That could indeed happen, I already got a copy in case that happens. However, only programmers are getting copies :S

Reply to this comment    5 December 2010, 15:05 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ndless 1.7 Update; Ncubate Released
KilKenny Account Info

Not actually true, tibank has a lot of the Os's still on their site.

Reply to this comment    5 December 2010, 16:01 GMT


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chris houston  Account Info

I wouldn't be worried about the OS's. search on yahoo for "ti nspire os" and there is a link to get any os you need.

Reply to this comment    6 December 2010, 01:14 GMT

Re: Ndless 1.7 Update; Ncubate Released
chris houston  Account Info

OMG, how much longer until we can have a Ti-Nspire that is loaded with the newest OS and ndless (ssshhh!) ?

Lol, I hope that Ti doesn't play the same "cat-and-mouse game" as Apple did with the os of the ipod, ipad and iphone. "Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it..."

Still pretty awesome.

Reply to this comment    6 December 2010, 00:52 GMT


Re: Re: Ndless 1.7 Update; Ncubate Released
chris houston  Account Info

By the way...

Shouldn't Ti be happy someone is developing something like Ndless for free? It will make their calculators more versatile and more people be more likely to buy one.

Also, would it be possible to make a C/C++ compiler/IDE for the ti-nspire (oncalc) that could edit C/C++ files and compile directly from C/C++ files into .tns files that Ndless can handle?

Additionally, can the Usb port be accessed through Ndless? If so I might have to become proficient in C/C++ very fast...

This is awesome.

Reply to this comment    6 December 2010, 01:09 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Ndless 1.7 Update; Ncubate Released
Lionel Debroux Account Info
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> Shouldn't Ti be happy someone is developing something like Ndless for free? It will make their calculators more versatile and more people be more likely to buy one.
In the mindset of members of the open development community, definitely, as the versatility of the TI-Z80 and TI-68k platforms is what made their success in the marketplace.
In their mindset of making closed technology and selling it at a much, much higher price tag than it costs them to produce (it's not just the calculator - the wireless "TI-Nspire navigator" is being experimented in classrooms), and making it harder (e.g. with that sub-par BASIC) for students to become producers instead of remaining consumers, certainly not.

> Also, would it be possible to make a C/C++ compiler/IDE for the ti-nspire (oncalc) that could edit C/C++ files and compile directly from C/C++ files into .tns files that Ndless can handle?
The Nspire is definitely powerful enough for a C compiler, given that the less powerful TI-68k platform can run the GTC compiler + IDE :)
This may require the Ndless libc to be expanded further than its current state, by finding more functions into the huge OS or by reimplementing them.

> Additionally, can the Usb port be accessed through Ndless?
Not currently.

Reply to this comment    6 December 2010, 08:18 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Ndless 1.7 Update; Ncubate Released
calc84maniac  Account Info
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You can access the USB port, sure. Actually knowing how to use it is a different matter entirely ;)

Reply to this comment    6 December 2010, 18:35 GMT

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