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Virtual TI Exceeds 0x100000 Downloads
Posted by Travis on 19 July 2009, 12:09 GMT

It's been a while since the last milestone announcement was posted, so it's about time for a new one: Rusty Wagner's Virtual TI v2.5, which has been our number-one downloaded file of all time for almost a decade, has just hit the 2^20 (1,048,576) download mark. Before it became the most downloaded file back in May 2000, ZShell v4.0 had been at the top of the charts.

Meanwhile, MirageOS v1.2 (by Dan Englender and Jason Kovacs) comes in second place with roughly half the number of downloads, followed by Super Mario v1.2 (by Sam Heald) and Tetris v.1.1 (by Chris Scheibe) with over 390,000 and 320,000 downloads, respectively.

Additional stats (including highest rated files and top downloaded files over the past seven days) can be found on our file statistics page.

Congratulations to all of our authors for their hard work!

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Re: Virtual TI Exceeds 0x100000 Downloads
Travis Evans Account Info

Interestingly, the “index of all files on ticalc.org” comes in 13th place. But given that it's not a user-submitted file (just an file automatically generated by the server), I wonder if I ought to remove it from stats ranking.

Reply to this comment    19 July 2009, 12:10 GMT

Re: Virtual TI Exceeds 0x100000 Downloads
Lewk Account Info
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I guess we missed the article for the 1 million download mark then? ;)

Anyways congrats to the authors indeed. Quite impressive.

Reply to this comment    19 July 2009, 19:23 GMT


Re: Re: Virtual TI Exceeds 0x100000 Downloads
Travis Evans Account Info

Yep. :-) I had been monitoring it earlier this year and then somehow totally forgotten about it for several months.

Reply to this comment    20 July 2009, 02:15 GMT

Re: Virtual TI Exceeds 0x100000 Downloads
Kevin Ouellet Account Info
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The people who made Ztetris should have called their game Tetris instead. The name is much more known so if a TI-BASIC Tetris game can get that many downloads, imagine how the ASM version would have done, had it used the original name. That said, if we combine all Ztetris versions and ports, I think the total amount of download is way above the BASIC game.

I wonder if WabbitEmu and PindurTI will ever be released at TiCalc.org, considering the 83+ emulation on them is way much better than VTI (archive support, better LCD emulation, all games works except the GameBoy emulator and BASIC games using hacked 8xi files).

Reply to this comment    19 July 2009, 21:22 GMT

Re: Virtual TI Exceeds 0x100000 Downloads
graphmastur Account Info

Some of these files, to be downloaded that many times, is simply remarkable. I bet that when Rusty started making VTI, he thought it wasn't going to do well at all!!! Now look at it!!!

Reply to this comment    19 July 2009, 21:33 GMT

Re: Virtual TI Exceeds 0x100000 Downloads
Kevin Kofler Account Info
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It's sad that there are so many downloads, even new ones, for that completely obsolete emulator. There are more modern emulators which actually support current calculators, still get updated and have fewer bugs. For the 68k calculators, there's TiEmu (and soon Emu-TIGCC), for the Z80 ones, there are TilEm, PindurTI and WabbitEmu.

Reply to this comment    19 July 2009, 21:34 GMT

Re: Re: Virtual TI Exceeds 0x100000 Downloads
Travis Evans Account Info

Maybe it's just VTI's legacy status and the fact that it's been around so long. Sometimes more recent projects take time to take off (e.g. Mozilla/Firefox vs. IE before IE 7 was finally released). Plus, there's probably a bunch of ancient webpages around that still point to VTI and will never be updated. Even our own emulator page hasn't been updated since the dinosaur age. :-P

Reply to this comment    20 July 2009, 05:24 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Virtual TI Exceeds 0x100000 Downloads
nyall Account Info
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I think it has more to do with being the most downloaded program in that folder, so it gets the nice glowing "most popular file" recomendation at the top of the list.

Reply to this comment    20 July 2009, 14:37 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Virtual TI Exceeds 0x100000 Downloads
Kevin Kofler Account Info
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Yeah, that's the big problem of stats emphasizing popularity rather than quality: it leads to feedback loops where once something is popular, it never loses that status even if there are much better alternatives, or if it wasn't that great in the first place (a BASIC Tetris?!).

I also think VTI's file description could use a note mentioning its legacy status and mentioning the more modern alternatives.

Reply to this comment    20 July 2009, 15:04 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Virtual TI Exceeds 0x100000 Downloads
nyall Account Info
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There are the reviews. And there is a rating system.

Speaking of reviews I should probably upload some titanium fixes to yapt to ticalc...

Reply to this comment    20 July 2009, 17:04 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Virtual TI Exceeds 0x100000 Downloads
Kevin Kofler Account Info
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My review telling the truth about VTI got rejected. :-( So there's still only the ancient 2004 review saying basically "10/10 Great" (even though VTI was already 3 years old and with known issues at the time, the review didn't address any of them).

Reply to this comment    20 July 2009, 22:22 GMT


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Duncan Smith Account Info
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If you want to know my rationale, feel free to forward me a copy of the review. I'll be happy to tell you why I thought it was unsuitable, and how you could improve it for publication.

Reply to this comment    22 July 2009, 04:02 GMT


Re: Re: Virtual TI Exceeds 0x100000 Downloads
_DigiTan  Account Info
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Sad? I look at VTI like a first bike. A ton of programmers got their start there and plenty of us wouldn't even be on the map if it weren't so approachable. Secondly, it raised the bar for every emulator to follow. And given how well it popularized asm, I think every ticalc contributor owes a huge share of thier success to Rusty's work. I'm not cryin.

Reply to this comment    20 July 2009, 17:39 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Virtual TI Exceeds 0x100000 Downloads
Kevin Ouellet Account Info
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Yeah I agree that VTI was the s*** back when it came out. Sure, it's far from perfect, but those who says it sucks and it doesn't deserve to exist have no idea how happy people were when the first grayscale TI-8x emulator came out (Flash Debugger, which came out at the same time, doesn't emulate grayscale and only supports 1 keypress at a time). So VTI was really useful back in the days. Now today, we have much better emulators, but we have to remember back when we had no emulator that ran on anything past Windows 98 SE and VTI came out.

Reply to this comment    21 July 2009, 00:21 GMT

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