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Re: When a new operating system is released for your calculator, do you install it?
jesse frey  Account Info

I generally see if their are useful features that come whith the new OS before I install it.

Reply to this comment    9 May 2006, 15:07 GMT

Re: Re: When a new operating system is released for your calculator, do you install it?
Snave2000  Account Info

Right. And due to the insidious lockdown feature implemented in TI-84 Plus 1.40, I also now test new OS's in TiLEm...

Reply to this comment    9 May 2006, 15:24 GMT

Re: Re: Re: When a new operating system is released for your calculator, do you install it?
calcguru13 Account Info

2.40 :D

Reply to this comment    9 May 2006, 22:01 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: When a new operating system is released for your calculator, do you install it?
Snave2000  Account Info

Right. Thanks.

Reply to this comment    11 May 2006, 15:29 GMT

Right Away!
slimey_limey  Account Info
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And what is this lockdown feature?

Reply to this comment    11 May 2006, 01:14 GMT


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Chipmaster  Account Info

Turn it off. Then hold [Left][Right] and [On]. It enables teachers (or whoever else might want) to block programs, apps, and statistical tools if they choose, and the only way to undo it is transfer something via the link port. I upgraded to 2.40 on my 84+, but I hated the feature, so I found a copy of 2.3 still on my harddrive. I will probably never upgrade my 84 again (because I doubt they will ever get rid of the feature).

Reply to this comment    11 May 2006, 03:38 GMT


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Travis Evans Account Info

Do you suppose someone might end up writing a program/interrupt routine/ROM patch to disable the feature? (I don't have an 84+, so I don't know if the OS design would allow such a thing, but I know that various OS protections have been circumvented on the TI-89.)

Reply to this comment    11 May 2006, 15:20 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Right Away!
jesse frey  Account Info

a workaround could be as simple as a very small microcontroller that transferred a file to the calc

Reply to this comment    11 May 2006, 18:12 GMT


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Jason Malinowski  Account Info
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Well, doing patches/interrupts would be non trivial, and if not done right the teacher would notice.

Even then it's NOT an evil feature...teachers can know students aren't cheating, and they DON'T have to go erasing student's calculators over it.

Reply to this comment    11 May 2006, 22:20 GMT


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burntfuse  Account Info
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Yeah, at first I was working on getting a PIC to just acknowledge whatever the calc sent to it (really not hard), but gave up, partly because the feature isn't so bad. People act like their calcs are being taken away from them or something, but don't seem to understand that they can either (1) have their calculator locked down, and unlocked after the test, preserving everything except groups (just ungroup all your files), or (2) get a full memory clear, and lose everything.

Reply to this comment    12 May 2006, 18:26 GMT


Re: Re: Re: When a new operating system is released for your calculator, do you install it?
Chaomerl Account Info

Another disliked thing is that in 2.40, CODEX's "Calculator Off" feature won't work - the calculator will turn on, but it will greet you with a GBSOD (Greenish Brown Screen Of Death/RAM Clear).

Reply to this comment    13 May 2006, 13:17 GMT

Re: Re: When a new operating system is released for your calculator, do you install it?
Scooblescott  Account Info

except TI never tells us what they are :)
it's usually just a very minor bug fix, though

Reply to this comment    9 May 2006, 23:42 GMT


Re: Re: Re: When a new operating system is released for your calculator, do you install it?
jesse frey  Account Info

no I generaly wait until someone else has tried it and said what it did.

Reply to this comment    10 May 2006, 02:44 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: When a new operating system is released for your calculator, do you install it?
yellowPig Account Info

>>wait until someone else has tried it and said what it did.
Lab mice? Oh, you cruel person, risking other people's calcs to see if you want a new OS.... ;)

I never have anyone to ask about new OS's; no one at my school cares that much. Otherwise I would do that too.

Reply to this comment    10 May 2006, 04:47 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: When a new operating system is released for your calculator, do you install it?
jesse frey  Account Info

no those are the "new freeks", people who have to have the newest OS on their calc I just weight until they figure out what it does.

Reply to this comment    10 May 2006, 15:04 GMT

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CajunLuke  Account Info
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And happy to serve I am. I load TI-OSes and Mac OS X updates as soon as I hear about them.

Reply to this comment    10 May 2006, 15:18 GMT


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CajunLuke  Account Info
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The only time I haven't had a problem with either was the time I waited two weeks before getting Mac OS X 10.4.6, instead of installing it the day it came out.

Reply to this comment    10 May 2006, 15:19 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: When a new operating system is released for your calculator, do you install it?
yellowPig Account Info

Well, then that's different....I completely support your actions.

Reply to this comment    11 May 2006, 05:12 GMT


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zac upp  Account Info

sometimes sisters can be a good thing, i "borrow" my sisters TI and install the OS on that, and if i like it, i install it on mine... no wonder they say older brothers are evil...

Reply to this comment    13 May 2006, 01:58 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: When a new operating system is released for your calculator, do you install it?
yellowPig Account Info

Unfortunately, my little brother only has a non-graphing ti calc. I have to wait about three years for him to get a graphing calc, and by then I'll be going to college.

Reply to this comment    15 May 2006, 20:48 GMT


Right Away!
slimey_limey  Account Info
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And I'm the one who tries it.

Reply to this comment    11 May 2006, 01:13 GMT


Re: Re: When a new operating system is released for your calculator, do you install it?
Matt M Account Info

I used to update soon after the release -- especially if it was usefull fixes.

Now, I am remaining with 84+ 2.30 and 83+ 1.18

I don't like lockout risks. The only way I will update is if there is a way to remove this and still have StartUp work properly.

Reply to this comment    12 May 2006, 20:41 GMT


Re: Re: Re: When a new operating system is released for your calculator, do you install it?
Matt M Account Info

If anyone needs an older OS (like 2.30) I can send it to you. I have an archive from 84+ 2.22-2.41 & 83+ 1.15-1.19

I have most of the versions inbetween so...I probably have any one that is needed

I'm currently running:
83+SE 1.18
84+SE 2.30

Reply to this comment    14 May 2006, 16:34 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: When a new operating system is released for your calculator, do you install it?
Matt M Account Info

oops...forgot...

email: millermmail@yahoo.com

Reply to this comment    14 May 2006, 16:35 GMT

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