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Re: Would you buy a new calculator that had wireless capabilities?
Jeremiah Walgren  Account Info
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Adding wireless would disqualify said calculator from any standardized tests, or any test for that matter. Too much of an opportunity to cheat.

Reply to this comment    21 February 2005, 20:22 GMT

Re: Re: Would you buy a new calculator that had wireless capabilities?
curranistan Account Info

Shouldnt be too hard to temporarily disable the feature...

Reply to this comment    22 February 2005, 00:58 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Would you buy a new calculator that had wireless capabilities?
Dr_Enigma Account Info
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If it's not hard to temporarily disable the feature, then what's to stop you from re-enableing it?

Reply to this comment    22 February 2005, 09:21 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you buy a new calculator that had wireless capabilities?
Coolv  Account Info
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Perhaps teachers can install modified OSes into students's calculators that allow the teacher to lock out the wireless feature until the test is over. The teacher can do that... wirelessly!!!
The teacher will check OSes before the test so it's impossible to cheat.

Before anyone decides to flame me, I KNOW that this will eventually be bypassed, and people will be making fake programs to trick the teacher as they did when teachers decided to reset the RAM.

An example of an ati-rese program: there exists a program for the 85 using Z-Shell (I think...) that, when the teacher resets the MEMORY, you must press only F1 (Once again, I think) to get EVERYTHING back, including Z-Shell and all of your precious programs. Then again, you can NOT PRESS F1 to have your memory pernamently reset...

Reply to this comment    22 February 2005, 21:54 GMT

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Drantin  Account Info

I've seen programs like that for the 85 and 86, only problem is that they require that half the ram be free for the hiding of the data...

as for bypassing the teachers remote disabler.... tin foil....

Reply to this comment    23 February 2005, 03:00 GMT

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anykey  Account Info
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I tried. They kept telling me to take off my hat :^( .
EOL

Reply to this comment    25 February 2005, 03:03 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you buy a new calculator that had wireless capabilities?
Drantin  Account Info

Or even better... disable the wireless yourself before going to the classroom...

Reply to this comment    27 February 2005, 07:57 GMT

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Tzazak  Account Info

Question...if teachers disable wireless wirelessly, how do they reenable it?

Reply to this comment    23 February 2005, 03:03 GMT


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Coolv  Account Info
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On-calc by using temporary passwords that are updated on th calc AND the teacher's computer... the generator is built into the modified OS...

Reply to this comment    23 February 2005, 23:29 GMT


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Tzazak  Account Info
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You're putting too much thought into this one... :)

Reply to this comment    27 February 2005, 22:50 GMT


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Derrick F.  Account Info

lol. Yeah, take it one step at a time. :)

Reply to this comment    28 February 2005, 01:34 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you buy a new calculator that had wireless capabilities?
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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>Perhaps teachers can install modified OSes into students's calculators that allow the teacher to lock out the wireless feature until the test is over. The teacher can do that... wirelessly!!!
>The teacher will check OSes before the test so it's impossible to cheat.

Eww, I wouldn't want the teachers having that much "control" over what goes on in my calculator. It sounds like an invasion of privacy to me.

Reply to this comment    28 February 2005, 16:48 GMT


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Timmc Account Info
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Just block the signal by using something else in the room so that the calculators can't establish a connection. Anyone seen a site on making a shortwave FM transmitter that can broadcast on any frequency up to 100m?

Reply to this comment    23 February 2005, 06:38 GMT

Re: Re: Would you buy a new calculator that had wireless capabilities?
jeremysimpkins  Account Info

that's why we have an add-on module instead of built in. it's nice having a TI-84+ SE on SOL's :P

Reply to this comment    22 February 2005, 03:26 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Would you buy a new calculator that had wireless capabilities?
jessef  Account Info

I think that you could find a USB wireless adapter and wire a mini USB port to it, then write softwhere(the hard part).

Reply to this comment    22 February 2005, 03:33 GMT

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Andy Janata  Account Info
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It would have to be a USB OnTheGo device, and be compatible with being controlled by another OnTheGo device.

Reply to this comment    22 February 2005, 15:34 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you buy a new calculator that had wireless capabilities?
jeremysimpkins  Account Info

wireless would be nice if you could view mini text web pages. the only problem would be the software as you mentioned

Reply to this comment    23 February 2005, 14:50 GMT


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burntfuse  Account Info
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120d, the software would be almost impossible. You would have to figure out how the adapter worked at the hardware level, which would mean disassembling the drivers for it.

Reply to this comment    24 February 2005, 22:21 GMT

Re: Re: Would you buy a new calculator that had wireless capabilities?
ti_is_good_++  Account Info

Masking tape plus a continuous broadcast of a reset signal in order to discourage the removal of the tape.

Reply to this comment    25 February 2005, 05:44 GMT


Re: Re: Would you buy a new calculator that had wireless capabilities?
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Bah, I just made that same comment above. Sorry, I didn't see yours. I guess you beat me. :-P

Reply to this comment    28 February 2005, 16:47 GMT

Re: Would you buy a new calculator that had wireless capabilities?
Hanliweb Hanliweb  Account Info
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Nice for cheating....
Hehe, just use a homemade addon would be nice. (Since no one would know)

Reply to this comment    21 February 2005, 21:01 GMT


Re: Re: Would you buy a new calculator that had wireless capabilities?
Coolv  Account Info
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Yes, *Evil Laugh*

BUT WAIT! There would have to be some sort of standard! That would mean that everyone would have to build a device according to a standard made by the TI community. Perhaps this device can be sold?

Reply to this comment    22 February 2005, 21:57 GMT

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