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Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
DWedit  Account Info
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Z88DK anyone?

http://z88dk.sourceforge.net/

Reply to this comment    15 February 2005, 18:32 GMT

Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Andree Chea  Account Info

That was my first thought when I saw the survey, but then I figured that it could be asking for a compiler that produces more optimized output :/ I don't know, a better C compiler could be useful...

Reply to this comment    15 February 2005, 19:13 GMT

Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Paul Houser Account Info
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It would be more useful if someone would write a library that turns the z80 romcalls (although I think they're different on each calc) into readable functions. I should do that, but I won't, cause I don't own a z80 calc anymore.

Reply to this comment    15 February 2005, 19:58 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Gergely Patai  Account Info
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If you rely on romcalls, BASIC is a better choice. Same speed, but much smaller programs.

Reply to this comment    16 February 2005, 07:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Zeroko  Account Info
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That is not always true...if you are doing a lot of looping (I think - at least, GOTO's), ASM is much faster than BASIC because the target address does not have to be found each time, & I am sure there are other cases.

Reply to this comment    17 February 2005, 01:14 GMT

Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Greg M Account Info
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I voted "I have a different answer", since there _is_ a C compiler. And it has been around for a couple years. See URL.

While it may not be very optimized, I personally feel C on the z80-based calcs is a bit of a stretch, considering, if nothing else, their limited avaliability of ram, not to mention the lack of archive on many of them. I am not saying it's impossible, I just feel it won't dethrone ASM.

Reply to this comment    15 February 2005, 20:41 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Jerk  Account Info

Is this C compiler written for the Mac?

Reply to this comment    15 February 2005, 23:05 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Jonathan Katz  Account Info
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Exactly, so wouldn't it be nice if there is a C compiler for the z80 on the level of TIGCC for the 68K calcs?

Reply to this comment    16 February 2005, 05:24 GMT


Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
burntfuse  Account Info
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Just what I was going to say until I saw your post! I've even used it a bit, porting Bots II to the 86. It could use improvements in some areas, but overall it's pretty good.

Reply to this comment    15 February 2005, 20:46 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Paul Houser Account Info
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Where'd you get the libraries? Did they come with the compiler? Did you write them yourself?

Reply to this comment    16 February 2005, 00:25 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
burntfuse  Account Info
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Nah, I didn't write anything myself. They came with the compiler. ;-)

Reply to this comment    17 February 2005, 20:57 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Coolv  Account Info
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And I could port it to the 85!

Reply to this comment    20 February 2005, 23:39 GMT

Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
sportsman78  Account Info

this would be a nice tool to have to make programing easier

Reply to this comment    15 February 2005, 19:06 GMT

Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Sebastian Schmied Account Info

Of course I want one, but is this possible?

Reply to this comment    15 February 2005, 20:43 GMT

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Tzazak  Account Info

I picked I don't have one, which isn't true, I just don't use the one I have...cause i've got an 89! w00t!

Reply to this comment    15 February 2005, 21:46 GMT

Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Coolv  Account Info
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This would be great if (ONLY IF!) it worked for EVERY Z80 calculator, INCLUDING THE TI-85!!!

Reply to this comment    16 February 2005, 01:26 GMT


Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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Ha! The 85 is probably the hardest z80 to program for. I attempted to port a 86 ASM program over to the 85 and seriously found no tools available not even simple rom equates for the OP registers...so if anyone knows of some...send em my way :-)

Reply to this comment    16 February 2005, 07:20 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
coinmanz  Account Info
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Try looking at asm math programs. I found (when porting to Rigel, PhatOS, UsGard, and ZShell) that Rigel is most similar to 86 style asm. SSJ Rage doesn't use Ops, but the Rigel source may prove useful. It is a pain, so code with your sanity closely gaurded.

Reply to this comment    16 February 2005, 16:39 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
DWedit  Account Info
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If you use the Rigel shell, I have a list of TI83 style equates for it. The only major programming difference is the lack of a textwrite flag.

Reply to this comment    17 February 2005, 21:53 GMT

Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Lewk Of Serthic  Account Info
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It would be very nice if there was a good one, like TIGCC for the 68ks

Reply to this comment    16 February 2005, 05:13 GMT

Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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Shaboinka is actually working on a project called "SquirrelBox." He's pretty far into it. Check the link or go here for some more information on it:

http://www.ti-news.net/ project_view.php?project=squirrelbox

Reply to this comment    16 February 2005, 07:26 GMT

Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Gergely Patai  Account Info
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Why membership is required is beyond me. I'd be curious to have a look at it, but signing up for Yahoo is something I'm not willing to do just for this reason.

Reply to this comment    16 February 2005, 07:54 GMT


Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
coinmanz  Account Info
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It is a nice project, but requires java libraries to run. I'll soon be getting Visual Studio and will code something a bit more useful: imagine Notepad for the z80 TI coder, with routines and code snippets ready to paste from a large selection for the 73 Flash-86... That's actually easy with Visual Basic, so anybody is truly welcome to run with the idea.

Reply to this comment    16 February 2005, 16:44 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
CajunLuke  Account Info
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And is Java a problem...?

Reply to this comment    16 February 2005, 23:28 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
CajunLuke  Account Info
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Ah, but with Visual Studio, it won't work on Linux or Mac. So it's really NOT that useful.

Reply to this comment    17 February 2005, 15:00 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Zeroko  Account Info
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Under Linux one can run .NET programs, including those created with VB.NET, using Mono (search for it on Google). I am not sure if there is a similar project for Mac OS. On the other hand, if he meant non-.NET Visual Basic, then there is no way to run it except by emulation (such as SoftWindows or Wine).

Reply to this comment    18 February 2005, 01:37 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Andy Janata  Account Info
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WINE Is Not an Emulator!

Reply to this comment    20 February 2005, 20:08 GMT

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