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Re: How often does your calculator crash?
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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Many thanks to 'W Hibdon' for the survey. I personally find it very hard to crash my TI-86.

Reply to this comment    12 October 2004, 07:18 GMT

Re: Re: How often does your calculator crash?
Timmc Account Info
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*not including the amount of time I've crashed my 83+ using Omnicalcs ASM real( thingo or my HEX ASM on the calc* The odd ASM program will crash my calc about once a year. I rarely download games for it or ASM programs. I would like for it to be able to handle "expand(equation)" and "lim()" but yeah.
"Programs don't crash my calculator, I do!"
"Guns don't kill peo..." oh, nevermind.

Reply to this comment    12 October 2004, 08:21 GMT


Re: Re: Re: How often does your calculator crash?
Paul Houser Account Info
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"Computers don't make mistakes, people do." -Bill Gates

Although I whole-heartedly support this quote, it has been proven incorrect...random discharges of a magnetic field can change bits in the middle of a calculation, therefore making the calculation innacurate.

Reply to this comment    12 October 2004, 16:51 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: How often does your calculator crash?
Matthew Marshall  Account Info
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But, isn't it some person's mistake to let anything that would produce an electric field be stored next to a computer?

MWM

Reply to this comment    12 October 2004, 17:47 GMT


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CajunLuke  Account Info

Not really... can you change the fact that you live on a magnet?

Reply to this comment    12 October 2004, 21:44 GMT


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Timmc Account Info
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That quote remains stong as long as you can accept that some "people" make crap computers.

Reply to this comment    13 October 2004, 06:19 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: How often does your calculator crash?
JAKAS  Account Info

Mmmmmmmmmmm... Quantam Mechanics. *gurgles*

Reply to this comment    13 October 2004, 21:13 GMT


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CajunLuke  Account Info

Quantum. Not "Quantam".

Reply to this comment    14 October 2004, 20:54 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: How often does your calculator crash?
Lewk Of Serthic  Account Info
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Computers don't run slow, Windows does.

Reply to this comment    14 October 2004, 01:23 GMT


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Cuddles  Account Info

er... Windows is not the processor or RAM... :(

Reply to this comment    14 October 2004, 20:57 GMT

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easily_amused  Account Info

Yes, but it is easier and more convenient to blame Windows for everything

Reply to this comment    15 October 2004, 03:52 GMT


burntfuse  Account Info

Exactly!!! And more fun, too. :-)

Reply to this comment    17 October 2004, 01:21 GMT


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Lewk Of Serthic  Account Info
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No duh. It's bloatware.

Reply to this comment    15 October 2004, 03:54 GMT


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Dr_Enigma Account Info
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Exemple: Microsoft Office costs hundreds of dollars, and takes almost 800 MEGS on my computer. I can download OpenOffice for free, and it takes a fraction of the space, plus it doesn't bog my coumputer down as much, either.

Reply to this comment    16 October 2004, 08:14 GMT


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Konrad Meyer  Account Info
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And AbiWord is another Office replacement that is free, and actually starts FASTER than MSOffice (unline OOo). It also has very similar functionality and interface to MSOffice.

Reply to this comment    17 October 2004, 20:19 GMT

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Konrad Meyer  Account Info
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Correction - "...(unlike OOo)..."

Reply to this comment    17 October 2004, 20:20 GMT


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Chronoflare Account Info

so does openoffice
lets hope one day ms is gone for good.

Reply to this comment    17 October 2004, 20:26 GMT


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Konrad Meyer  Account Info
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Two things... I've found that OOo opens a lot slower than Abiword or MSOffice on my computer, and that OOo has a pretty different default interface than MSOffice and Abiword (the first is probably becase OOo is a suite containing powerpoint, excel, word, and the other one replacements). Abiword is the first part of a suite that is under developement now. And also, about "lets hope one day ms is gone for good." While I dislike a lot of things about Micro$oft, they do make some very good products, often times before anyone else does. Take for example Internet Explorer. While now it's a security hazard, back when non-text-mode browsers were new, IE was a significant improvement over Mosaic and early versions of Netscape. They make some good games, also. But, they also have a lot of bad points, and can kind of be lazy on their code because of evolving hardware and domination of the market. Apple has also done some things better/before anyone else, such as GUIs and the iPod.

Reply to this comment    17 October 2004, 23:09 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: How often does your calculator crash?
alexsimon88  Account Info
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Actually, the better saying is that...
"Computers are as just as reliable as the man or men who created them"
I know this is true, because no one is perfect, neither is microsoft, or we would not have the bugs in XP to begin with.
Also, hardware in the computer ages and stuff wears down over time, also causing issues with how your computer operates. So if you had your computer for at least 4 years, and things start happening, it could be that just that something is worn down in your computer.

Reply to this comment    17 October 2004, 22:31 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: How often does your calculator crash?
alexsimon88  Account Info
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Actually, the better saying is that...
"Computers are as just as reliable as the man or men who created them"
I know this is true, because no one is perfect, neither is microsoft, or we would not have the bugs in XP to begin with.
Also, hardware in the computer ages and stuff wears down over time, also causing issues with how your computer operates. So if you had your computer for at least 4 years, and things start happening, it could be that just that something is worn down in your computer.

Reply to this comment    17 October 2004, 22:31 GMT

Re: Re: How often does your calculator crash?
Jake Griffin  Account Info
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I hardly ever use a calculator anymore, so my vote was once or twice a month, if that...it used to be nearly every day (with all the ASM that I downloaded) but now it is significantly lower. To be honest, I probably run out of batteries more often then I crash my calc.

Reply to this comment    12 October 2004, 15:06 GMT


Re: Re: Re: How often does your calculator crash?
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Hmm... mine crashes about once a year. The TI-89, that is. I think that's pretty good.

Reply to this comment    12 October 2004, 23:39 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: How often does your calculator crash?
Coolv  Account Info

WHOA! Are you serious? My V200 crasher many times each week!

Reply to this comment    13 October 2004, 00:06 GMT

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blauggh Account Info

Well, considering I use it almost exclusively to do math, I guess it's not too surprising that it almost never crashes. It's only crashes when I try a program I think might be useful, but turns out to be unstable. None of the programs I use on a regular basis have ever crashed my calculator; if any of them did, I would stop using it immediately.

Reply to this comment    13 October 2004, 00:50 GMT

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blauggh Account Info

(89 HW2, 92 HW1 w/Plus)

Reply to this comment    13 October 2004, 00:51 GMT


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ssssmemyself Account Info
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I think I'm cursed.

I've written a not-too-good calculator game that's a turn based strategy game. It seems that whenever I save a game in progress to file, (not often because the game sucks and I rarely want to play it) I end up crashing it within the next day or so before I can get back together with whoever to finish the game. *Poof* No more game file. Other than that, I have occasional crashes, but rarely more than one in a month.

Reply to this comment    19 October 2004, 02:39 GMT

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aml1358  Account Info
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yeah... why do games become unstable after, like, three weeks of use? it's working fine, the BOOM! your ram's gone. IT'S ANNOYING, but i guess that you are stupid enough not to save the games you aren't using in your archive, then unarchive when you want to use it, then re-archive it. (That's why i like mirage... it unarchs the prog and archs it automatically, so your games are virtually delete-free.

BTW, check out my lame, unfinished website! yes, im such a nerd that i start my own programming club at school, but still, its working out nicely! (28 members!)

Reply to this comment    13 October 2004, 03:42 GMT


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LonePhoenix  Account Info
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happens all the time when i try to run BASIC progs on MirageOS (yes, the new one!). and i still won't learn.

Reply to this comment    13 October 2004, 03:49 GMT


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aml1358  Account Info
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it seems that to me basic progs never crash on my 84+se in mirage. people complain all the time about them, but i dont seem to have that problem. yay!

check out my lame website!

Reply to this comment    13 October 2004, 22:08 GMT


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no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Okay, the first plug for you site wasn't bad, but when you did it twice in a row... with the same text...

Reply to this comment    13 October 2004, 22:26 GMT


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anykey  Account Info

How 'bout this: "My lame website you must check out".
BTW, I just archive and hide all of my games, so if a teacher looks at my calc it seems to be game-free. Plus, it seems to be keeping all of the annoying n00bs away.

Reply to this comment    14 October 2004, 01:42 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How often does your calculator crash?
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Really? That's surprising. What do you do to make it crash? Run buggy programs? Also, I archive everything in those unfortunate times when there is actually a crash, so I guess it wouldn't matter if it did... but no, it doesn't happen very often at all.

Reply to this comment    13 October 2004, 22:24 GMT


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Coolv  Account Info

Of course, I archive everything so I do not lose any data, but it's annoying to have the Apps load again.

Reply to this comment    16 October 2004, 17:59 GMT


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PGK Account Info

My V200 that I bought in April this year has yet to crash. It has, however, gone through several sets of batteries. I guess using it a couple hours a day to do physics, statics, and graph 3D stuff and solve multivariable calculus takes a bunch of juice.

However, my old TI-89 would crash on average, every other week. It would actually crash about every other month, but when it crashed, it would do so several times in a day. It finally bit the dust when a battery exploded in the back of it when I was doing Calc II. That pretty well toasted it...

Reply to this comment    14 October 2004, 13:20 GMT


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anykey  Account Info

How'd that happen?

Reply to this comment    14 October 2004, 23:47 GMT


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Joey Gannon  Account Info
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Same here. I thought I lost everything yesterday, when the batteries spontaneously died during a game of Queue, but it's all still there. My 89 never crashes, even though I play a lot of ASM games, mess around with 3D graphing, and run a few TSRs.

Reply to this comment    13 October 2004, 04:48 GMT


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aml1358  Account Info
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why do TSRs have to be so annoying, yet helpful?!? HELP! I'M GETTING SUCKED INTO TSR WORLD! THE BATTERY/CLOCK/AUTOSTART PROG IS TAKING ME IN!

check my lame website

Reply to this comment    13 October 2004, 22:10 GMT

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calkfreak83  Account Info
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DUDE!!!!! Shut up with the lame website crap! Nobody cares.. I bet if you clicked on all of the links in here, you'd find about 10 or 15 of their websites, but you don't see them talking about it! Oh my God, you have a lame website! WHOOP-DE-FRIGGIN'-DOO!

Reply to this comment    14 October 2004, 00:41 GMT


burntfuse  Account Info

Uhh...a little harsh, but I agree with the basic idea.

Reply to this comment    17 October 2004, 01:24 GMT


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Lewk Of Serthic  Account Info
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Not that lame.

Reply to this comment    14 October 2004, 01:27 GMT


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anykey  Account Info
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Actually, if you look at the source, it is quite lame. He used a WYSIWYG program, and as a result, his source is bloated. People should seriously learn HTML. There's nothing to it. All of my pages are 100% notepad. See Link

Reply to this comment    14 October 2004, 02:03 GMT

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Lewk Of Serthic  Account Info
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Doesn't LOOK half bad. Better then all of those plain text documents all over the internet.

Reply to this comment    14 October 2004, 19:36 GMT


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Konrad Meyer  Account Info
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Not really... with the ads, and the ugly, harsh, background that reduces legibility, I'd prefer plaintext.

Reply to this comment    17 October 2004, 22:59 GMT

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darkhydra21 Account Info

I use notepad...you actually have more control over what you can do, provided you know how to write it.

Reply to this comment    15 October 2004, 04:48 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How often does your calculator crash?
Konrad Meyer  Account Info
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I use a text-mode editor also. WYSIWYG editors just plain suck, and their code can be really bad.

Reply to this comment    17 October 2004, 23:11 GMT

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pg Account Info
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I totally agree with using notepad. But why write html while XHMTL exists? And if everyone used CSS the web would even be a better place.

Reply to this comment    16 October 2004, 09:48 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How often does your calculator crash?
anykey  Account Info

The problem XHTML is that older browsers can't parse the code. CSS has definently made the web a better place. Check out W's site for a good example.

Reply to this comment    16 October 2004, 23:39 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How often does your calculator crash?
Konrad Meyer  Account Info
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I use CSS, but I do not use XHTML because it's not completely supported by any browser, and I prefer server-side solutions such as PHP.

Reply to this comment    17 October 2004, 23:12 GMT


burntfuse  Account Info

I agree. FrontPage just generates 5x the amount of code you really need, sticks an advertisement for Microsoft in a comment near the beginning of the page source, and shows any visitors that you don't know anything about HTML.

Reply to this comment    17 October 2004, 01:27 GMT


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Chronoflare Account Info

frontpage has a bunch of dumb ms comments, but dreamweaver is better much better

Reply to this comment    17 October 2004, 20:28 GMT

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Konrad Meyer  Account Info
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If you don't know ANY HTML and you have to make a site within a few days, then go with dreamweaver. Even though it is a WYSIWYG editor, it's code is much better than frontpage.

Reply to this comment    17 October 2004, 23:14 GMT


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Konrad Meyer  Account Info
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If you don't know ANY HTML and you have to make a site within a few days, then go with dreamweaver. Even though it is a WYSIWYG editor, its code is much better than frontpage.

Reply to this comment    17 October 2004, 23:14 GMT

burntfuse  Account Info

Same here. When it crashes, it's almost always the result of something stupid I've done with an assembly prog or a hex editor. :-)

Reply to this comment    12 October 2004, 22:34 GMT

burntfuse  Account Info

Or when I'm bored and start sending random values to the ports to see what happens...

Reply to this comment    12 October 2004, 22:41 GMT


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PlaidPhantom Account Info

Okay, that's just asking for it.

Reply to this comment    15 October 2004, 02:14 GMT


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gnownoskcid  Account Info

I'm learning ASM right now so no way avoiding the inevitable multiple crashes /per day

Reply to this comment    13 October 2004, 00:39 GMT

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Morgan Davies  Account Info
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I always liked seeing how uch I could messup VTI when I was started learning. Just to see what the screen would do and all. :-) It was kind of fun!

Reply to this comment    13 October 2004, 20:04 GMT


burntfuse  Account Info

Get an emulator. :-)

Reply to this comment    13 October 2004, 20:41 GMT


Re: Re: How often does your calculator crash?
W Hibdon  Account Info
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*looks around*
*Hands Morgan his pseudo-quotes back*
I think that these were mistakenly placed around my name for some reason. You can have them back.

-W-

Reply to this comment    17 October 2004, 03:13 GMT

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