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Re: Have you replaced your computer's operating system with Wacky Fun Random Number Generator yet?
Tzazak  Account Info

I chose the last No one, but there's one missing that mine fits under better.

>> No, I'm too lazy to.

But just so everyone knows, I hate windows and with a little more effort would definitely do it.

Reply to this comment    10 August 2004, 23:40 GMT


Re: Re: Have you replaced your computer's operating system with Wacky Fun Random Number Generator yet?
benryves  Account Info
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Hate Windows?
Why?

Reply to this comment    11 August 2004, 11:56 GMT

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burntfuse  Account Info

Are you joking???

Unstable, security holes everywhere, resource-hungry, buggy...

Reply to this comment    11 August 2004, 15:07 GMT


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JcN  Account Info
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That's why most schools where I live use Macs, because no one (not even no_one) writes viruses for Mac OS.

Reply to this comment    11 August 2004, 17:05 GMT

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Lewk Of Serthic Account Info
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Our's us Windows to "save money".

120d

Reply to this comment    11 August 2004, 17:55 GMT


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calkfreak83  Account Info
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Yay! I started something!!!

Reply to this comment    11 August 2004, 20:01 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: ¤
Lewk Of Serthic Account Info
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Naturaly.

Reply to this comment    12 August 2004, 15:56 GMT


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no_one_2000_  Account Info
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120d? I'd been saying 5 and 120 before that, but I didn't have the d at the end. Haha, but you were the one who e-mailed ticalc :) Or were you talking about something else?

X  XXXX  XXXX        X
X       X  X    X        X
X  XXXX  X    X  XXXX
X  X       X    X  X    X
X  XXXX  XXXX  XXXX

Reply to this comment    13 August 2004, 14:30 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ¤
anykey  Account Info

####################################
#+--+#+-----+#####+------+#####+--+#
#| |#| |#####| +--+ |#####| |#
#| |#+--+ |#####| | | |#+---+ |#
#| |####| +--+##| | | |#| +--+ |#
#| |####| |##| +--+ |#| +--+ |#
#+--+####+-----+##+------+#+------+#
####################################

Reply to this comment    13 August 2004, 18:10 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ¤
anykey  Account Info

How'd you get your's to work? It always takes out spaces in mine. :^(

Reply to this comment    13 August 2004, 18:11 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ¤
Lewk Of Serthic Account Info
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hmmm...

1 22222 00000 d
1 2 0 0 d
1 22222 0 0 ddddd
1 2 0 0 d d
1 22222 00000 ddddd

Reply to this comment    13 August 2004, 21:04 GMT


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no_one_2000_  Account Info
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You had trailing spaces too. That's an HTML no-no.

Reply to this comment    14 August 2004, 15:51 GMT


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no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Ahh, I knew if I posted that then everybody else would post ones that don't turn out right. I saw it coming!

Anyway, I'm sure everybody knows about how HTML cuts off trailing spaces, right? (Anykey, yours had trailing spaces) Furthermore, the type of font used is far from monospaced, so things aren't going to line up. You just have to be a 1337 h4x0r like me to do something like that. ;-)

Haha, but really, here's what you should do before posting ASCII art. Get the CSS. Make your own HTML file and use the same styles. Make your ASCII art, test it, align it, and then it will work. Simple. I'd also suggest keeping the ASCII art relatively small so it doesn't clog up the page.

Reply to this comment    14 August 2004, 15:42 GMT


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burntfuse  Account Info

10-pt Arial/Verdana/Helvetica (it lists all 3 for some strange reason).

Reply to this comment    15 August 2004, 19:24 GMT


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Chivo  Account Info

It's "Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" so it can fall back on Arial if Verdana isn't available, on Helvetica if Arial isn't available, and on sans-serif if Helvetica isn't available. It's useful for graceful degradation.

I figured out how no_one does it: he uses character 0xA0 (160 decimal) instead of spaces.

This text should be "indented" a little. :)

Reply to this comment    15 August 2004, 21:47 GMT


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Chivo  Account Info

Lets try that again:
            This text should be "indented" a little.

Reply to this comment    15 August 2004, 21:53 GMT


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Chivo  Account Info

##  # # ###  #  ##     #   # ###
# # # # #   # # # #    ## ## #
##  ### ##  ### ##     # # # ##
#   # # #   # # # #    #   # #
#   # # ### # # # #    #   # ###

I hope octothorpes have the same width as A0's. :)

Reply to this comment    15 August 2004, 22:01 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ¤
Lewk Of Serthic Account Info
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Did you use the other space symbol or something?

Reply to this comment    13 August 2004, 21:08 GMT


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Nick_S  Account Info

Y Y EEEEE SSSSS IIIII TTTTT IIIII SSSSS !
Y Y E S I T I S !
Y EEEE SSSSS I T I SSSSS !
Y E S I T I S
Y EEEEE SSSSS IIIII T IIIII SSSSS !

Reply to this comment    14 August 2004, 04:54 GMT

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Nick_S  Account Info

DAMMIT!!

Reply to this comment    14 August 2004, 04:55 GMT


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no_one_2000_  Account Info
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ASCII art n00b. ;-)

Reply to this comment    14 August 2004, 15:50 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ¤
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Ahhh! You can't have trailing spaces in HTML! j00 n00bz!

Reply to this comment    14 August 2004, 15:52 GMT

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Chivo  Account Info

This should work:

X XXXX XXXX X
X X X X X
X XXXX X X XXXX
X X X X X X
X XXXX XXXX XXXX

Reply to this comment    15 August 2004, 21:29 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ¤
Chivo  Account Info

Argh! I see what you're doing! You're using character 0xA0 (160 decimal) instead of spaces! Sneaky sneaky!

Reply to this comment    15 August 2004, 21:40 GMT


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calkfreak83  Account Info
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Yea, I meant the "d"...

X XXXX XXXX X
X X X X X
X XXXX X X XXXX
X X X X X X
X XXXX XXXX XXXX

I hope that worked..(it's called COPY & PASTE!!!)

Reply to this comment    15 August 2004, 23:31 GMT


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calkfreak83  Account Info
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Dammit.

Reply to this comment    15 August 2004, 23:32 GMT


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Chivo  Account Info

You have to use the character 160 decimal/240 octal instead of space. I think some browsers convert it to a space character when they display it, so you can't just copy and paste like I tried to do.

Reply to this comment    16 August 2004, 01:32 GMT


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no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Well, if you could write a calculator virus (just get the code for that "Cooties" program and make some minor adjustments), then I think you could write a virus for a Mac. :-D But there wouldn't be much of a point, since it would only affect a few people. 120d

Reply to this comment    11 August 2004, 19:07 GMT


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Geek_Productions Account Info
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Well, I'd presume it'd only affect users of 68k-based Macs, and most (networked) Macs are PowerPC.

Reply to this comment    12 August 2004, 22:38 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Have you replaced your computer's operating system with Wacky Fun Random Number Generator yet?
anykey  Account Info

*GASP* GET HIM!!!!

Reply to this comment    11 August 2004, 15:30 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Have you replaced your computer's operating system with Wacky Fun Random Number Generator yet?
PaulvZon  Account Info

Just obvious, I think.

Windows, in my opinion, could win a award...
For most crappy OS ever!

Mine crashes about every hour...

Reply to this comment    11 August 2004, 17:04 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Have you replaced your computer's operating system with Wacky Fun Random Number Generator yet?
JcN  Account Info
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The NT kernal isn't all that unstable (unless it's infested with viruses). I use WinXP, and although I favor Mac OS over Windows, WinXP hasn't ever crashed on me ever since I got it.

Reply to this comment    11 August 2004, 17:09 GMT


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burntfuse  Account Info

Yeah, the versions based on the NT kernel seem to be pretty good (except for if they have way overdone GUIs like XP), but most of the others *really* suck!!!!

Reply to this comment    12 August 2004, 01:33 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Have you replaced your computer's operating system with Wacky Fun Random Number Generator yet?
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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What version of Windows do you have?

Reply to this comment    11 August 2004, 19:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Have you replaced your computer's operating system with Wacky Fun Random Number Generator yet?
ti_is_good_++  Account Info

Best interface on the most compatible OS ever.

Reply to this comment    11 August 2004, 20:27 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Have you replaced your computer's operating system with Wacky Fun Random Number Generator yet?
Chivo  Account Info

Bad interface on the least standards-compatible OS ever?

Reply to this comment    13 August 2004, 07:33 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Have you replaced your computer's operating system with Wacky Fun Random Number Generator yet?
ti_is_good_++  Account Info

Easiest-to-use interface on the most cross-hardware compatible OS ever.

Reply to this comment    13 August 2004, 16:56 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Have you replaced your computer's operating system with Wacky Fun Random Number Generator yet?
Chivo  Account Info

I'd say KDE is far easier to use than the Windows interface (which is almost strictly graphical and has *very* little non-graphical support, by the way), and it runs on GNU/Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, all of which run on a combined several dozen different computer architectures.

Count them (these are only from NetBSD):
acorn26, acorn32, algor, alpha, amd64, amiga, amigappc, arc, arm32, atari, bebox, cats, cesfic, cobalt, dreamcast, evbarm, evbmips, evbppc, evbsh3, evbsh5, hp300, hp700, hpcarm, hpcmips, hpcsh, i386, luna68k, mac68k, macppc, mipsco, mmeye, mvme68k, mvmeppc, netwinder, news68k, newsmips, next68k, ofppc, pc532, playstation2, pmax, pmppc, prep, sandpoint, sbmips, sgimips, shark, sparc, sparc64, sun2, sun3, vax, x68k, xen

That's 54 for NetBSD alone.

Calling Windows "the most cross-hardware compatible OS ever" is like saying you have a big selection of colors for a Model-T Ford. You can have it any color you like, so long as it's black. You can run it on any computer you like, so long as it's Intel x86.

Reply to this comment    14 August 2004, 05:39 GMT


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ti_is_good_++  Account Info

Windows runs on AMD!

Reply to this comment    14 August 2004, 20:51 GMT


Re: Error: Subject line too long
blauggh Account Info

Because AMD made the express decision to give its CPUs the exact same instruction set as Intel's x86 line. The first set of HW1 TI89s used a custom-built CPU specifically for that application, then they switched to a generic 68k processor for the HW2 calcs. Technically, that shows that AMS does run on multiple CPUs.

BTW, it was possible to increase the amount of useable memory in the HP48 line of calculators just by removing the old RAM chip and installing a bigger one. The same ROM worked either way. Does anybody know for sure that the TI calculators cannot be modified in a similar way? (ie. add more pages of RAM to the TI83+, or installer a bigger flash ROM chip (yeah, I know, you'd at least have to pre-flash the thing with a copy of an original boot loader block.), etc...)

For the couple of seconds just after you boot up your Pentium 4 or AthlonXP before windows starts, you are, for all intents and purposes, running a 2 GHz 8086. Funny, eh?

Reply to this comment    16 August 2004, 00:31 GMT


Re: Re: Error: Subject line too long
ti_is_good_++  Account Info

More RAM crashes ASM programs.

The TI-83 Plus OS does not support paged RAM.

Reply to this comment    16 August 2004, 17:29 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Error: Subject line too long
Chivo  Account Info

"More RAM crashes ASM programs."

Can you please be more vague? My ASM programs run just fine with 64 MB, 96 MB, 112 MB, or any other amount of RAM.

Perhaps you meant on a calculator? In that case, which calculator? How did you find out that more RAM crashes programs (i.e., how did you add more RAM)?

Reply to this comment    17 August 2004, 22:59 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Error: Subject line too long
ti_is_good_++  Account Info

Do you know anything about ASM programming? I think you do, and I don't know why you don't understand that calculator ASM programs compiled for a certain OS made for a calculator with a certain amount of RAM won't run on another OS made for a calculator with another amount of RAM.

Reply to this comment    19 August 2004, 23:15 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Error: Subject line too long
Chris Williams  Account Info

I don't think the amount of RAM is the reason the program doesn't run. The OS is different, for one thing, which means it has at least a slightly different API or has different locations of system functions (or any other "small" change like that).

If the API were compatible, then the OS can hide how much RAM is available, and the program can simply ask the OS if it needs to know or if it needs to allocate some memory.

Basically, the issue is _not_ how much RAM is in the calculator.

Reply to this comment    22 July 2005, 17:27 GMT

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