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Re: A86: Theory question [i think its about time we....]


ok i'm going against my own advice to post this, but i think it is at least
asm related to talk about being able to make more complex games...
...first the answer...
<IGNORE IF YOU ONLY WANT ASM STUFF>
    ok i've taken an ind.study physics class and messed around circuit
boards         and stuff...i may be completely wrong but i'd say that don't
capacitors store         energy then release it when triggered...so a higher
pf capacitor (22pf is                 default i believe) would store more
energy and thus take more time to release
    it then no capacitor thus slowing the calc down...that's my theory
<END IGNORE>
ok wasn't the reason everyone said that we couldn't do TRUE 3d in z80 asm
was because that the matrix multiplication required would be much to slow.
i would like to get some kind of idea how many people have sped up their
calcs and also how many of them are capable of some z80 asm.  then we could
actually write programs for this group (ourselves).

even i who by self declaration am most certainly not a great asm programmer
could write the routines to rotate things defined in true 3d space.  with
the speed increase their would be no problem except perhaps low screen
resolution.

SO...THE POINT OF THIS RAMBLING....
would anyone here be interested in starting some projects in asm that are
based on the purpose of testing what we can do with our calcs running at
21mHz while everyone has their's at 6mHz.

there i thought that was at least more asm/programming related then comments
by those who were making comments just too complain....



----- Original Message -----
From: David Thomas <david_hd@yahoo.com>
To: <assembly-86@lists.ticalc.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 2:15 AM
Subject: Re: A86: Theory question [i think its about time we....]


>
>
> You could certainly do better games for it tho...
> (Only do it after you've gotten tired of everything
> available)
>
> BTW: What exactly does removing that capacitor speed
> up?
>
> --- warhorse <warhorse@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
> >
> > The problem with that is games and such run too fast
> > and you can't slow it.
> > terrence
> >
> > Eugene Dirks wrote:
> >
> > > you can get the calc to run 3x-4x faster
> > (18-24mHz) by simply removing the
> > > c13 (is this the right one?) capacitor.  I did and
> > have had no ill side
> > > effects.  Don't even bother putting a different
> > capacitor in; just remove
> > > it.
> > >
> > > as long as we're on the topic. what would
> > increasing the voltage by very
> > > small increments do?  if done carefully couldn't
> > we get even more speed out
> > > of it?
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: David Thomas <david_hd@yahoo.com>
> > > To: <assembly-86@lists.ticalc.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 2:26 AM
> > > Subject: Re: A86: Theory question [i think its
> > about time we....]
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > Things I think people want changed:
> > > > > 2) Speed - needs to be faster (and slower for
> > > > > games/playing tricks on
> > > > > friends)
> > > >
> > > > I was thinking... you can get a 20 MHz Z80 for
> > $12...
> > > > I f you removed the chip currently in there, and
> > > > replaced it with one of those, the calc should
> > run a
> > > > lot faster (the bus and memory access would slow
> > it
> > > > down, but it should still be a fair amount
> > faster...
> > > > maybe if you coupled this with that 4x speed
> > > > thing...).
> > > >
> > > > PS: Why aren't you all in line for Star Wars
> > tickets?
> > > > I've got a freind holding my place in line... :)
> > > >
> >
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