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AMS 2.09 Semi-Released
Posted by Joey on 20 May 2003, 00:32 GMT

TI has released AMS 2.09 for the TI-89, TI-92+, and Voyage 200. The only catch is that you must download the newest version of TI Connect to get it.

Update: (Joey): AMS 2.09 is now available by itself. Go download it from the TI Online Store.

 


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Re: AMS 2.09
Daniel DeGraaf  Account Info

Does anyone have or know where I can get old updates? (before 2.05) I would like them for testing.

     20 May 2003, 01:13 GMT


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angelboy Account Info

You can e-mail TI, and they will send which ever one you requested. I did that for AMS 2.05

     20 May 2003, 01:24 GMT

Re: ~
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Could we ask TI to e-mail us 2.09?

     20 May 2003, 01:49 GMT


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angelboy Account Info

<me>Or</me> you can download it from their site.

     20 May 2003, 21:58 GMT


<me> = stupid
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Along with a 9MB program TI-Connect? No thanks.

     20 May 2003, 22:09 GMT


Re: <me> = stupid
W Hibdon  Account Info

Or from here: http://epsdownload.ti.com/ download/delivery.asp? bn=2708522&fn=1&NAME=OS209.89u. delete spaces.

-W-

     21 May 2003, 01:33 GMT


Re: Re: <me> = stupid
W Hibdon  Account Info

Which is, in fact from, TI.

     21 May 2003, 20:56 GMT


Re: Re: Re: <me> = stupid
no_one_2000_  Account Info
(Web Page)

Thanks

     21 May 2003, 22:19 GMT


Re: ~
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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What e-mail address would we use to ask them? How big are the OS files? Are they less than 6.0MB? I have a plan...

     20 May 2003, 01:50 GMT


Re: Re: ~
BlackThunder  Account Info
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Think: Does your calculator HAVE 6 MB flash mem? No? Then I doubt it has enough mem to have a 6 MB OS on it.

(It is a little less than 1 MB. Don't ask how they fit it on your calculator.)

     20 May 2003, 23:28 GMT

Re: Re: Re: ~
Joe B  Account Info

How do they fit a 1 mb file on my calculator?


(P.S. I have 2.09 and i think it works fine. I never had 2.08 cause of all the problems people were talking about.)

     21 May 2003, 02:05 GMT

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Daniel DeGraaf  Account Info

The calculator has 2M of flash ROM

     21 May 2003, 22:44 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: ~
Rob van Wijk  Account Info

I'm not sure about the 68K ROMS, but the 83+ OSes come in IntelHEX encoded files (meaning they are more then twice as big as they are on-calc). I've even seen OS files that had a license agreement in about ten languages in it, then the file gets really huge.

     22 May 2003, 09:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ~
benryves  Account Info
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So that's why those 16K apps all come in different sizes...

     22 May 2003, 09:19 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ~
Rob van Wijk  Account Info

Not really. If 16 kb of raw hex is IntelHEX encoded, it's always exactly the same size. Also, I've never seen an *app* with a copyright inside (doesn't mean they don't exist of course, but surely most just have the app data).
The reason 16 kb apps come in different sizes is because they are not 16 kb. The way the Flash chip works, and how TI OS executes apps, they always have to take up a multiple of 16 kb of flash. That means no matter if it's actually only 1 byte, or exactly 16384 bytes, it will always take up 16 kb, when on the calc. The computer file on the other hand, only has the data of the app, so the size differs with the actual size.
Note: your typical app would ideally be close to, but just under, 16 kb in size (so you won't waste a lot of space). Due to IntelHEX, that becomes roughly 40000 bytes. If you see a .8xk file that's under 40000 bytes, it more than likely is a 16 kb app.

     22 May 2003, 12:48 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ~
benryves  Account Info
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All of the TI apps on the TI resource CD that came with my calculator contained copyright details (the only com up if installed via the old software, though).
Also, some of my apps show up in Windows Explorer as being 58K or so, but are only 16K ones. Why didn't TI use a 8K ROM paging system :( It would free up so much space on my measly 160K (as of speaking, I have 2K free ROM... not good!)

     22 May 2003, 16:42 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ~
Rob van Wijk  Account Info

Ah, that explains it then, I only took a look at the ROM on the CD, not the apps.
They couldn't use a 8 kb page system as that would have meant a complete overhaul of the entire design of the calc (AFAIK, all the 8x calcs use a memory model based on 4 times 16 kb). The problem is that if you've got 8 kb pages, then you'll have two app pages in one "memory page", meaning that the app won't know beforehand if its code starts at $4000 or $6000 which would really complicate programming.

     23 May 2003, 15:14 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ~
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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Do you mean 68K apps?

     22 May 2003, 17:43 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ~
benryves  Account Info
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No, not 16K as in MC16000 (does it even exist?), but as in an App that fills a single ROM page, which (on the 83+, at least), is about 16KB in size.

     22 May 2003, 22:29 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ~
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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I knew it was one of the two, it just seamed like you ment proc type. Oh well.

     22 May 2003, 23:41 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ~
ti_is_good_++
(Web Page)

On the 68k it is very different-Go into MEM and check whether the Apps size is an (octal!) multiple of 16k after you force Garbage Collect.

     17 September 2003, 22:32 GMT


Re: Re: Re: ~
ti_is_good_++
(Web Page)

When it gets to the calc it's 67665 (or something like that once the unnecessary localizations are deleted).

     17 September 2003, 22:28 GMT

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