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Nick Disabato Releases Random Numbar Generator
Posted by Nick on 19 July 2000, 21:19 GMT

Wacky Fun Random Numbar Generator v1.00000069WORD! In another display of programming finesse that once again leaves the TI "community" in hushed awe, Nick Disabato has released Wacky Fun Random Numbar Generator v1.00000069 for the TI-86.

Written in BASIC, this very well could be the absolute apex in random number guessing games for years - nay, eons to come. Though it's true that Nick borrowed the idea from Phil Genera, surely he borrowed the code from no source other than himself.

According to Steve Whittaker, file archiver at ticalc.org, "This could be the greatest game ever written. I've never had so much fun in my life. In fact, it's just slightly less entertaining than [censored]."

Added Steve, "This could, in some fashion, help a great deal to developing a new ROM image for the TI-89, as well."

Magnus Hagander, one of the creators of ZShell, was reported as saying, "That punk kid made something cooler than ZS!! I'll kill him!"

A ticker tape parade is planned down LaSalle Street in Chicago for Nick's contributions to humankind. Millions of tax dollars are being poured into the last-minute project.

Richard P. Feynman, professor at Cornell University in Ithaca, NY; was quoted as describing the program as "revolutionary to developing a unified field theory." Others have claimed it has caused them to learn Sanskrit.

 


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YES!!!
Mike Grass Account Info
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So there I was, kickin' it over at slashdot.org, and suddenly, like a bright, flashing neon sign, I see through my ticalc.org slashbox that a new article is up. Immediately after my brain had absorbed this information, I jumped up, knocking over my chair in the process, and started celebrating. It was only after my third leap into the air that I remembered that this was for the 86, not the 89! What gives, Nick???

Anyway, I thought I would congratulate Nick on this juicy little program, and also take a bow to his paragonical programming prowess. If it weren't for Nick D., where would the TI community be? Seriously, Nick has contributed so much to our tightly knit community, and this caps it all off very nicely. To think that somebody would have the skill and knowledge to create such an awesome program boggles my puny mind.

What's next, artificially intelligent life-forms based upon the TI-86? TI-86's with the ability to scan in test problems and spit out the answer? One can only expect the best from Nick Disabato, and time can only tell what pulchritudinous invention will come from his bright and lucid mind.

Anybody planning ports to the 89?

Here's hoping,
--Mike

     19 July 2000, 23:08 GMT


Re: YES!!!
YodaToad  Account Info

Actually (being the l33t BaSiC c0d3r that I am), I have already ported it... It's uploaded to ticalc awaiting inclusion in the archives.

-Erik Davidson

     19 July 2000, 23:34 GMT


Re: Re: YES!!!
Patrick Davidson  Account Info
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I am quite astonished by your skill; who would have thought that it was even possible to port such an advanced program in such a short time? Obviously, you did ... I bow to your brilliance.

     20 July 2000, 01:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: YES!!!
compman32386  Account Info
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I ported it to the 83+ and uploaded it. It should be up sometine soon.

     20 July 2000, 04:13 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: YES!!!
Patrick Davidson  Account Info
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Amazing. This just gets better every hour.

     20 July 2000, 04:27 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: YES!!!
compman32386  Account Info
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I would have also put an 85 version up, but Nick wanted to do that himself.

     20 July 2000, 15:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: YES!!!
Patrick Davidson  Account Info
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As Nick was the only one brilliant enough to create the original, I'm sure he is also the most qualified to port it.

     24 July 2000, 19:22 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: YES!!!
mysteryegg  Account Info
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Until somebody ports to the 73... then we'll all hate ourselves for ever buying our 89s if 73s can be magically converted as well. Afterwards, mobs will form inside local staples stores from all those people who can't afford an 89 and are going after the previously worthless 73s along with all those 89 users who will kill to stay on top. No more will TI say "this worthless piece of junk can make pie graphs" ... they'll say "this worthless piece of junk can magically be converted into an 89 using a wonderful program that we're not allowed to discuss, as we don't officially support the TI community unless they pay for the development kit."

     20 July 2000, 16:26 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: YES!!!
calcfreak901  Account Info
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>Until somebody ports to the 73
Do not even mention such madness!!!!
>Afterwards, mobs will form inside local staples stores from all those people who can't afford an 89 and are going after the previously worthless 73s along with all those 89 users who will kill to stay on top.
They will also form at local Best Buy, OfficeMax, and Office Depot stores.
>No more will TI say "this worthless piece of junk can make pie graphs" ... they'll say "this worthless piece of junk can magically be converted into an 89 using a wonderful program that we're not allowed to discuss, as we don't officially support the TI community unless they pay for the development kit."
Couldn't have put it better myself:)

     22 July 2000, 01:36 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: YES!!!
Patrick Davidson  Account Info
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BURN ALL TI73S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Random Numbar Generator can help a whole lot in doing this ...)

     26 July 2000, 01:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: YES!!!
dleet  Account Info

no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no...
we should PYROLYZE all 73's. But stay away from my 81!

     27 July 2000, 08:47 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: YES!!!
Tim Dorr  Account Info
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Can I put up a port for the 81 or 80? I don't if Ti-Calc's servers can handle such a mass of programming skill!

     20 July 2000, 18:37 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: YES!!!
calcfreak901  Account Info
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Go ahead. The server *should* be able to handle such advanced programs. Its survived slashdotting, hasn't it?

This sentence no verb.

     22 July 2000, 02:22 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: YES!!!
Patrick Davidson  Account Info
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Unfortunately, there is always the risk that the program will decide to open a black hole. That's something ticalc.org may not survive.

     22 July 2000, 06:49 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: YES!!!
calcfreak901  Account Info
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If it opens a micro-black hole, the event horizon is infinitessimal, so unless it opens it inside a component of the server, it should work fine.

     23 July 2000, 00:53 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: YES!!!
Patrick Davidson  Account Info
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But remeber the word 'Random' in Random Numbar Generator; it means that you can't predict how large the black whole will be in advance.

     26 July 2000, 01:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: YES!!!
dleet  Account Info

..nor can we know in which part of the server the singularity will appear.

     27 July 2000, 08:49 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: YES!!!
calcfreak901  Account Info
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The random numbar generator can be modified to meet these parameters.

     28 July 2000, 01:32 GMT

Re: Nick Disabato Releases Random Numbar Generator
Nick Disabato  Account Info
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another thing to notice:

Posted by Nick on 19 July 2000, 19:19 GMT

:D

--BlueCalx

     19 July 2000, 23:13 GMT


Re: Re: Nick Disabato Releases Random Numbar Generator
Max Seckel  Account Info
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shame july isnt the 19th month of the year...

     19 July 2000, 23:18 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Nick Disabato Releases Random Numbar Generator
Amalfi Marini  Account Info

but is 19/2 -1
he !

     19 July 2000, 23:25 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Nick Disabato Releases Random Numbar Generator
Jefferson_Airplane  Account Info
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<snip>but is 19/2 -1</snip>
Wow, head math...
19/2=9.5
9.5-1=8.5
8.5=7

     20 July 2000, 00:15 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nick Disabato Releases Random Numbar Generator
Amalfi Marini  Account Info

I did it so quick that I though I was doing 16/2 -1
(19 and 16 are very similar... knowing that sometimes I loose the sence of direction!)
here it goes again
19/2 -2.5
HE !

     20 July 2000, 16:44 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nick Disabato Releases Random Numbar Generator
Patrick Davidson  Account Info
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With Random Numbar Generator, all numbers can be equal

     26 July 2000, 01:56 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nick Disabato Releases Random Numbar Generator
Amalfi Marini  Account Info

8.5=7 !! But we must demonstrate it, using the following Idea:

a + b = c
(4a-3a)+(4b-3b)=(4c-3c)
4a + 4b - 4c = 3a + 3b - 3c
4(a+b-c) = 3(a+b-c)
4 = 3

Yeah ! 4 = 3 !
HE !


     20 July 2000, 22:24 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nick Disabato Releases Random Numbar Generator
Jefferson_Airplane  Account Info
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Wow... Simple Division By Zero (Not Once, But Tiwce) can solve anything!!!

     21 July 2000, 16:40 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nick Disabato Releases Random Numbar Generator
Patrick Davidson  Account Info
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It certainly can. This just makes me wonder why this sophisticated mathematical technique isn't used more widely.

     21 July 2000, 19:18 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nick Disabato Releases Random Numbar Generator
calcfreak901  Account Info
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Just a slight numerical overflow is why.

Instead, try: (expression)/(1.0x10^±[infinity])
Its technically not a divide by zero, similar to the 1/[infinity] problem WITHOUT

     22 July 2000, 01:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nick Disabato Releases Random Numbar Generator
calcfreak901  Account Info
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please delete above comment

     22 July 2000, 01:18 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nick Disabato Releases Random Numbar Generator
Patrick Davidson  Account Info
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why?!?!? I think it is a wonderful comment ...

     26 July 2000, 21:35 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nick Disabato Releases Random Numbar Generator
calcfreak901  Account Info
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Just a slight numerical overflow is why.

Instead, try: (expression)/(1.0x10^±[infinity])
Its technically not a divide by zero, similar to the 1/[infinity] problem WITHOUT limits.

     22 July 2000, 01:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nick Disabato Releases Random Numbar Generator
Jefferson_Airplane  Account Info
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NO!!!
If A=2, B=3, C=5
2(4-2)+2(6-3)=2(10-5)
2(2+3-5)=1(2+3-5)
2(0)-1(0) <-+Divide Zero Out
2=1 <-+

     22 July 2000, 01:21 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nick Disabato Releases Random Numbar Generator
Jefferson_Airplane  Account Info
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OOPS! That Makes No Sense! It Works On This Paper In Fornt Of Me, Bot Not There... Please Note: The Above Is Incorrect!

     22 July 2000, 01:33 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nick Disabato Releases Random Numbar Generator
calcfreak901  Account Info
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Actually it makes perfect sense. However, there is a difference between dividing zero out and dividing by zero. Dividing by zero yields both an infinite result and and undefined result. The former result often causes memory overflows. It would be interesting to run that on a Cray 2;)

     22 July 2000, 01:50 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nick Disabato Releases Random Numbar Generator
Patrick Davidson  Account Info
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It yields negative infinity also.

     22 July 2000, 06:50 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nick Disabato Releases Random Numbar Generator
calcfreak901  Account Info
(Web Page)

It results in infinity, negative infinity, and everything in between simultaneously. That's why it would be interesting to run on a supercomputer or twenty.

     23 July 2000, 01:00 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nick Disabato Releases Random Numbar Generator
Patrick Davidson  Account Info
(Web Page)

For even more math fun, try to computer

fPart(tan(tan-1 1))

on your TI-82. Note here that "tan-1" means to use the inverse tangent function.

(Note: this brilliant discovery is actually not be me, but supplied to me from the TCPA)

     26 July 2000, 01:59 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Nick Disabato Releases Random Numbar Generator
Jefferson_Airplane  Account Info
(Web Page)

Today is 19/19/1999
<nobrain>Subtract 12 from the month, add one to the year</nobrain>

     19 July 2000, 23:36 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Nick Disabato Releases Random Numbar Generator
Nick Disabato  Account Info
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EXACTLY, SIR!
Man, you've posted the two coolest comments so far today. I ph34r you.

--BlueCalx

(that's serious btw *grin*)

     19 July 2000, 23:51 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nick Disabato Releases Random Numbar Generator
calcfreak901  Account Info
(Web Page)

What about yesterday and today?

     22 July 2000, 00:50 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nick Disabato Releases Random Numbar Generator
Patrick Davidson  Account Info
(Web Page)

Or better yet, today !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     26 July 2000, 01:59 GMT

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