Wasn't ION 1.6 released already?

Has the whole world gone insane?! EMINEM SUCKS!!!

I couldn't agree more.

I could.

- Jeff

So could I

Yes.
Yes he does.

But you have do admit there's some kind of comedic value to calling Jonah "The Real Slim Shady" ;-)

--BlueCalx
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Eminem is awesome.

Doors OS is even worse! I ran SMQ on a TI-89 HW2 AMS2.04, it left the bottom of the screen (where it says the graph mode, busy indicator, etc...) full of junk. Will this be fixed sometime soon? And I also have installed the HW2 patch 2.01.

Just wondering, is there a library that works for grayscale on a hardware 2 calc with installed software certificates? I tried the one that works with hardware 2 without, but once I installed the certificates, bam back to blacvk and white. sigh

Try using Universal OS. No offense Doors OS programmers, but your programming sucks lately.

They're rewriting the entire thing (DoorsOS) from scratch. The error handling is a lot better now. Give them time to work out the bugs. Or, better yet, download the source code and do it yourself.

Finally I can try out DoorsOS again. I managed to fix the link port of my TI-89 five minutes ago after it has been broken for 6 months. The inside of my Ti-89 now looks like a mess but it works. I'm so happy!

You too? My 89 was screwed up right before exams at my school. Things looked glum, but Then I remembered I had a waranty.

Mine crashed during the AP exam, thereby deleting some of the most important functions, which couldn't be stored in archive memory because of a bug in the AMS. It also crashed for no reason; I didn't have any shell on it, and hadn't run any ASM programs, since the last reset (which I did on purpose).

There hasn't been much complaining in responses to this particular news item, but I couldn't find a better place to put this. All comments are welcome.

This is to anyone who wants to play games on your TI-89. Not all the people who just want to do math, this is to the gaming people.

DO NOT UPGRADE TO AMS 2.0X!!!

I REPEAT

DO ---NOT--- UPGRADE TO AMS 2.0X!!!

If you already have, email TI and downgrade to AMS 1.00 or 1.05, depending on your hardware version. Everyone should do this. There should be no game-players left with an AMS higher than 1.05.

If you download a higher AMS than that, any problems you have with games, ranging from total mem erase to "Address Error", are ENTIRELY YOUR FAULT. No blame should be placed on the Doors team, developers of Universal OS or TEOS, or the game author. It's your fault for downloading the upgraded OS.

This will help in many ways:

1)

Anyone who has an AMS higher than 1.05 who complains of faults in program or shell developers on ticalc.org reponse boards should be completely ignored. This should help to get rid of the "Why doesn't blank game work on AMS 2.04! Stupid programmers! Why can't you make better games!" comments. They don't help, and usually don't get you many answers anyway.

2)

This also makes life easier on shell and program developers. All TI-89/92+ programmers should make their games for AMS 1.00 and 1.05. No programmer will have to upgrade their game for any reason other than fixing bugs for the 1.00 and 1.05 versions, or just simply making their game better. This will give them more time to make better programs or improve upon the ones they already have, not upgrade because of a new AMS.

3)

When TI discovers that no one is downloading new AMS's, they might deduce that it is because of gaming limits. They might take off the limits. This is sort of like a silent boycott. This one is kind of a long shot, because come on, be reasonable, TI doesn't really care about all of us, but hey, it could happen.

Please comment on this message and tell me your ideas. There's probably some things I missed.

Thanks for reading all this,

- Jeff

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What's wrong with developing games for AMS 2.0x? I really don't think TI is going to care if we do a silent boycott. The people who want to do math are definitely going to download it, and it won't be a boycott anymore. Besides, people will still be downloading it, because not everyone who has a TI-89/92+ goes to ticalc.org.

Besides, remember that TI programming is just a hobby for most people. It's really up to the programmer whether or not he/she wants to develop for new AMS versions. If money was involved, sure this would be a great idea, but it's not, and we should just leave it up to the programmer regarding whether or not they develop new versions of their games. It really depends on their willpower and time available. So, I think programmers have the final decision about whether or not to develop their games for AMS 2.0x. The 24KB limit might be removed if they didn't do that, but then again, most games _could_ be under 24KB, if they were optimized, split up into smaller programs, etc.

I'm not trying to put you down or anything, just provide a few reasons why I think this might not be a good idea. I might change my mind if I get some good responses. By the way, I agree about #1 (ignore posts about "WHY WON'T ____ GAME WORK?!"). :-)
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Hehehe... EssayScript.

>I really don't think TI is going to care if we do a silent boycott.

Nah, probably not. Who knows?

>Not everyone who has a TI-89/92+ goes to ticalc.org.

They should!

>It's really up to the programmer whether or not he/she wants to develop for new AMS versions.

Of course, it always will be. But it would make life easier for some programmers if they didn't have to. Then again, they don't have to anyway, good point.

>I'm not trying to put you down or anything...

Hey, I did say all comments were welcome... :)

- Jeff

DUDE! Stop with the gigantic posts!!! Are four blank lines at the end of that post really necessary? Please keep your posts to a minimum of lines, as a courtesy to our already overworked scroll bars.

Ouch... my bad. Didn't mean to leave those 4 lines there. I usually write like that though because it's easier to read, sometimes.

- Jeff

ticalc.org should delete blank lines at the beginning and end.

I think it's OK to upgrade if you don't complain about it. A silent boycott wouldn't work, because that every new calculator now comes with the new AMS, right? I upgraded for only one reason: The var-link screen. If I wanted to downgrade again, I'd have to sacrifice that. I don't play games either, I just program, and everything in TI-GCC works fine.

So my question is: Why downgrade? If a program doesn't work on all AMS, it's programmed badly. Ask Zeljko. :-) Anyways, can HW2 users downgrade their OS? I don't think so. Correct me if I'm wrong. (But don't flame me; "all comments are welcome." :-) )

Sure, HW2 users can downgrade to 1.05, but one of the reasons I agree with you in that we can't just stay at 1.0x is that maybe TI would do the same thing in a new type of HW2 (oh great) so you can't downgrade past 2.0x. Or, there must be some reason that you can't downgrade to 1.00. If it's bad to downgrade to 1.00, it could be that it's better to be at 2.0x than 1.05, since 2.0x was designed with HW2 users in mind, and 1.05 was when HW2 was kinda out there, and kinda not.

My HW2 + AMS 2.03 calc works perfectly. Most games run and grayscale is ok. I can play all the new games and I have the advantages of the new AMS. I think you should try AMS 2.03 and see for yourself that it works.

Kaven

and if you have a HW1 calc, upgrading to ams2.04, you'll get all ams2.03+some ams1.00 games (only for Unios, 'til DoorsOs became 2.04 compatible(fully))

Well for me, AMS 2.03 is far better than AMS 1 (i obviously have HW1), though there are a few games that sometimes wont run, UOS works great and if all else fails the built in archive recovery is very helpfull in play games that typically crash, and MaxMem allows me to put more than 2x times the games/apps on my calc than someone with AMS 1 (or 1.05 for HW2)

As for AMS 2.04, it doesnt seem to offer enough to upgrade and loose compatiable with most things for extra speed in menus, ill stay with 2.03

The problem with all of these incompatibilities is that it is not at all TI's fault but that of the programmers. If people had written their programs in a system friendly way without hacking around in memory all the time while expecting certain values to be at certain locations we would not have all of these problems.

you're right, it is the fault of the programmers if their programs do not work. They should take care of us and work better :)

HEY JEFF, YOU THE ONE WHO THINKS AMS 1.05 BEATS AMS 2.0X, YOUR A FREAKING RETARD! AMS 2.03 just about doubles your memory. The doors os team has also developed doors so that all programs written for 1.05 and 1.00 can be ran on 2.03! Don't you feel stupid. ASM programs need to be written FOR 2.03. Screw 1.05 that suxs.

Next time you think you've came up with something smart, think again.

Sincerely,
Me (AKA the smartest person in the universe :-)

PS Hey Nick, your doing a great job with ticalc.org, the only thing I don't like is the lack of news updates.

Last thing before I go to bed:
I was supposed to post 234718294738 news items tonight, but an emergency White Sox game postponed that.

Sox 6, Indians 1.
We rock.

--BlueCalx

Oh, shut up.

<<Sox 6, Indians 1.
We rock.

--BlueCalx >>

Oh boy, not you too Nick. A bandwagoner from the North Side trying to side with the "Bad Guys" now. Please jump off the bandwagon or I will force you to watch a tripleheader Cubs games!

ASM programs need to be written for ANY AMS. This is not hard. Good written programs (like TI-chess) are the exact proof that even very complex programs may be created to work on ANY AMS and on ANY HW release. And I expect that such programs will work on any eventual new AMS release!

Such a mature post.

- Jeff

I use games, but I also use flash apps. Your idea just can't work.