Boy, you 86'ers are really excited about this more memory thing, I must take it forgranted cause I have an 89 ^_^

I have both, actually; I prefer my 86, because the games, while not graphically as advanced, are more stable and can be run without a special kernel

i prefer my 89, as i only use any of my calcs for math, the 89 rules all holy ass in that area.

Except that some teachers don't let you use the 89... (like mine)

And if you want games, the 86 is the best calc (in my opinion)

yeah, that's why i have both the 89 and the 86; i like using the 89's math stuff (it saves time; i hate making computational errors when i really knew how to do the problem, just typed in the wrong thing), but on certain things like the ACT, the 86 comes in handy.

Yea.. I've found the 86 to be a much better calculator for plain math. Many teachers do not allow 89's, and the Ohio Math League Tests do NOT allow 89's. The 86, on the other hand is allowed on almost every test imaginable.

I had trouble convincing my English teacher to let me use my 86 on a vocabulary test... :(
-UM

The only problem with the 89 is that it has an archive. The archive is really a horrendous way to get more memory... It'd be awesome if there was just as much RAM as there was archive. That way you could put everything in the RAM in the archive so that it wouldn't be lost in case of reset.

Heh. Like the name :)
Shame I can't spell it....

That's what the cut and paste feature is for! ;)

This always happens with my names... Pterodactyl was originally a fractal decompression program (discontinued because the decompressed images were too blocky -- better method would be arithmetic coding). So anyway Pterodactyl became the test program for any new idea that I had. This was the first one that worked, and so...

Ah! Finally a program that DOES work! (at least, that's what I hope). Better than that 83 memadder which was thankfully censored away later.

Yea... that one was actually kinda funny. Redux disassembled it (I did too later), all it did was pause for a while at key points to look like it was doing something, then goes to a fake "more mem" screen. What kind of loser would go to all the trouble just for a hoax...

- Jeff

now what would be REALLY dumb is if it was a basic program... ;-)

Kirk: When are you gonna start programming for computers? "This gives your computer an extra 10 megs of RAM" ;)

well, 10 mb doesn't make much of a difference anymore, when you have 128 (138 isn't THAT much bigger)... now 100 MB, that would be cool. ;-)

There's some program for WinDoze that gives you 2 to 3 times more memory (Quadradeck MagnaRAM? something like that...) by optimising the way RAM is allocated. There is usually no loss of speed (less disk swapping). Of course, switching to Linux is the far better option.

I'm not associated with whatever that program is actually called, just thought I'd point it out...

Ciaran

Are there any programs like this for the original TI-92 (not the TI-92+)?

Yes there is! It's called "Hardware Ram Expansion", but sadly it requires the optional hardware "Crazy Geek with Soldering Iron" to run. Seriously, i have not seen any, and i doubt that it would be possible, at least not in any straight forward way.

And what's wrong with the "crazy geeks with soldering irons"? =) Everybody's gotta have some fun sometimes...

Yes it is possible, a German site sells turboed/hardware ram upgraded TI-89's, but they are fairly expensive (like $180), but they are pretty awesome, although HW 2 calcs are practicallyt wice as fast as HW 1 calcs (although they might be HW 2 calcs...) Anyway, you get 256 k ram instead of the regular, pretty spiffy:) I've seen hp's with 7 megs of RAM in 'em (HP 49g's come with 1.5 megs)

-Trailblazer

I would be amazed to see anyone top this on an 86. This is truely impressive. On a calc that emulates 4 85 asm languages, 2 82 asm languages, 2 chip languages, 1 83 asm language, an astonishment like this is quite rare.

I wish they would do this emulation stuff for the 89... maybe some godlike programmer could make a z80 emulator for the 68k... there's a sort of genesis one and a chip8 one... why not z80? I'm sure the 89 is powerful enough to handle the decrease in speed during emulation, the only problem would be whether it's stable enough to run for more than 5 minutes, till the emulator finds something it doesn't like, and you hafta do the ol left+right+2nd+on.

- Jeff

Um... all things considered, the M68K is only a bit more powerful than the Z80. A Z80 emulator on an 8086 (like a TI-86 emulator for Windows) runs, at best, at about 1/10th of the speed of the 86. But put that onto an M68K, and you're most likely looking at 1/32nd of the speed (a.k.a. you could see the individual pixels of the sprite being drawn). Is it possible? Probably... but who would use it?

Note that HW 2 calcs are nearly twice as fast as HW 2 calcs, (I don't have loads of benchmark stuff, but I do have a HW 1 calc and HW 2 calc and the HW 2 calc can graph stuff way faster than the HW 1 calc, sin (x) (yah yah yah, easy, but good enough for my purposes) graphed essentially twice as fast on my HW 2 calc than my HW 1 calc... this might help the speed of emulation. Also, I'm still sure that the 68k is capable of running z80 games at an equivalent speed through emu's... although that may be far in the future.

-Trailblazer

Nope, not true. It would run at about 1/8 of the speed at best. Really, emulation is not as simple as it sounds...

> Note that HW 2 calcs are nearly twice as fast as HW
> 2 calcs

What???

An emulator wouljd lag way too much, but what *could* be done is a translator. A program which can take Z80 asm code and convert it into 68K asm code. The speed should be farelly the same. Although a few things would probably need to be tweaked in order to run fully. Since the addresses aren't the same.

that's already done. Patrick Davidson made a 85 to 92 code converter......

there's already a z80 emulator for m68k calcs; Texzas I believe....

yeah but i don't think that emulates actual ti-8x games, what people are looking for, i think, are games for the ti-86 that we can run on ti-89's (like the 86, which can run 82, 83, 85 games as well).

with Texzas, the 89/92(+) gets the possibility of 8000 games (that's what I last read). And not even POTM...