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Fission2 Labs Releases Schematics For RadioLinc
Posted by Nick on 26 November 1999, 03:09 GMT

Fission2 Labs has released preliminary schematics for their RadioLinc. According to the page, RadioLinc can link two calculators together using RF UHF frequencies. The device is very small and schematics are available on the site. It should cost between USD $25 and $30 to make a pair.

 


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Re: Fission2 Labs Releases Schematics For RadioLinc
David Ricciardi
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Hmmm this is allgood, but it needs to be able to adapt, and it would also be cool to see a radio reciver for a hookup to a computer. i could plug it into the back of one of the computers at cool and surf the internet without anyone knowing =). Also the range needs to grow. Like a 2meter ham radio using a repeater can go like 25 miles ( dont need that mutch, but if i could get 2 miles out of it i could link up with my home computer from school.

     26 November 1999, 04:28 GMT

Re: Re: Fission2 Labs Releases Schematics For RadioLinc
kc2dxj  Account Info
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Awesome work! The UHF spectrum seems like an excellent choice for this type of communication because you can use small antennas and the signals will cut through walls and other obstructions much better than VHF would. In the last post, the 2 meter ham band was mentioned. While much more power and flexibility is allowed to hams on their frequencies than on the unlicenced freqs., a few problems arise from using the ham bands for this. #1, most calculator users are not hams, and #2, the protocal used must be well published and it must incorporate a method of identification.

To work out the distance between home and school, someone with a near-by house could possibly provide an internet connection for the students of the school.

     27 November 1999, 01:36 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Fission2 Labs Releases Schematics For RadioLinc
David Ricciardi
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that could work i know someone that lives realy close. but i also thought if you could directly plug in one of the radio links to a parallel port or a serial port. Each room in my school has a computer all hooked up to the internet i could plug in one side of this thing into the back of a teachers comp and install some software running in the background and could be in a chat room with the teachers none the wiser, and without the major cost of a cell phone bill. any response to this idea. also the connection to the computer would be nice if it didnt require a graph link make it like those keys for some software that you just plug in.

     27 November 1999, 05:31 GMT


Re: Re: Fission2 Labs Releases Schematics For RadioLinc
Brian Sipos  Account Info

If you have or have access to a parallel/serial link (not TI's) that uses a jack instead of a plug (the kind that uses a calc link as a pass through), you could just plug the RadioLinc into it just as you would into a calc. Using an emulator would work with this, but to do any kind of non-calculator related stuff (email, newsgroups, etc.) you'd need a program for that, which would just use the standard specs for a link program.

     27 November 1999, 19:03 GMT

Re: Fission2 Labs Releases Schematics For RadioLinc
EverSpiffy

Are these ever going to be offered built for purchase?
It'd be a help of those of us who aren't electronically inclined... which end of the sodering iron do I hold? OUCH!!!... oh well

EverSpiffy

     26 November 1999, 04:30 GMT

Re: Re: Fission2 Labs Releases Schematics For RadioLinc
Nick Disabato  Account Info
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<humor>
Hmm, I did that with a Bunsen burner once :-)
</humor>

--BlueCalx

     26 November 1999, 04:40 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Fission2 Labs Releases Schematics For RadioLinc
fission2labs  Account Info
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Not sure if you could get it to transmit further, of course you could always mount a tower on the top of your bookbag and transmit?

We probably will be selling these in a snazzy translucent case in the Y2K, price , unknown as of now.

     26 November 1999, 05:01 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Fission2 Labs Releases Schematics For RadioLinc
yosweetlady  Account Info

May I suggest a black or grey case? I'de like to use these to cheat on math tests, and it would be easier if they weren't see through so I could claim that they are "memory expanders". How big will they be anyway?

     26 November 1999, 08:27 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Fission2 Labs Releases Schematics For RadioLinc
Caio Assuncao  Account Info
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Please, don't forget to put a connection for an external antenna. It can be very useful, a little wire going to your bookbag or something. Have you seen those super compact antennas that are tighly winded? those could work too.

     1 December 1999, 23:17 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Fission2 Labs Releases Schematics For RadioLinc
taliessin penfound  Account Info

Try a translucent ash-blue-i have seen some pretty cool stuff in that color

     4 December 1999, 22:35 GMT


Re: Re: Fission2 Labs Releases Schematics For RadioLinc
David Phillips  Account Info
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Heh...I actually did that once. A very LONG time ago :)

     28 November 1999, 01:55 GMT

Re: Fission2 Labs Releases Schematics For RadioLinc
Mike Palmer  Account Info

One word: "Wow". This is completely amazing. Now I'm totally convinced that the possibilities for a TI Calculator are endless. One question though: What happens when 20 people are talking at the same time? What will keep the signals separate so that only the person you intend to receive it does? Sorry about the wording, I hope it makes some kind of sense. LOL

     26 November 1999, 05:35 GMT

Re: Re: Fission2 Labs Releases Schematics For RadioLinc
fission2labs  Account Info
(Web Page)

We are working on a way to variate the frequency to select who you want to send to. Not sure how were going to do it yet, but we will. Maybe a type of IP address?

     26 November 1999, 06:05 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Fission2 Labs Releases Schematics For RadioLinc
Kaitou_Ace  Account Info

Well with the 89/92 you have a unique serial number you can use

     27 November 1999, 16:10 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Fission2 Labs Releases Schematics For RadioLinc
fission2labs  Account Info
(Web Page)

Good point!

     27 November 1999, 19:49 GMT


Multiple people
Yehudi

I was thinking of making somthing very similar to what you have designed, but I have never even written schematics for it yet. A solution I found to this problem was to set up one calc as a "server" and have everybody joining send a signal on a certain modulation. This "server" woud get the signal and tell all the other calcs to stop transmitting. It would then "log on" the new calc. The entire chat system would be based on a "token ring" type of communication where the "server" calc sends a signal to each other calc in order, requesting any data and giving it data. That way, the "server" calc could be in control of all transmissions at all times, stopping transmissions as necessary to log on newcomers.

Just a thought

Ty

     1 December 1999, 22:07 GMT


Re: Re: Fission2 Labs Releases Schematics For RadioLinc
Samir Ribic  Account Info
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I have horrible experience in such conditions (connected many PC-s over radio at same frequence). Even though that X.25 protocol was used, and lower level links know for colision, there were too much retransmissions that I needed up to 2 hours to transfer 2K file! The reason is that repeater listen all senders, but senders between them not. Senders think that ether is free, repeater receives trash, and resends packet.

     26 November 1999, 08:10 GMT

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Robert Maresh  Account Info
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I wrote a program for the TI-83 and TI-83 Plus that does this (BASIC). It allows you to chat almost in realtime.

     26 November 1999, 06:15 GMT

Re: Fission2 Labs Releases Schematics For RadioLinc
SolSkink

You know... since anyone else in the room with a radio link can intercept the transmissions... wouldn't it be a good idea to include some sort of basic encoding of transmissions?

     26 November 1999, 16:58 GMT


Re: Re: Fission2 Labs Releases Schematics For RadioLinc
fission2labs  Account Info
(Web Page)

Yes, that is what we are working on now...

     26 November 1999, 19:20 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Fission2 Labs Releases Schematics For RadioLinc
Charles Vaughn  Account Info
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I'm an amature cryptographer and in my spare time wrote a BASIC-89 encryption proggram which is simple enough to be implimented without much proccessor or memory overhead. How ever, it is a symmetrical stream cipher, and the code generating algorithm maybe easy to break. However it is secure enough that only another user listening on a PC with a radio link and specially designed crypto-anylitical software made by a proffesional cryptographer would be able to decode the transmission. So its allright if you talk about "what's the answer to #3" or "do you want to go out saturday" but not "10 kilo's, china white".

The system has the user input a key, then seeds the random generator with it, or some function, possibly a Zeta funciton. Then a random number is generated, xor'ed with the next character in the plaintext and output to the cipherstream.

With ord, char, and mid, this is very easy to implement in basic on the 89, it takes less than 500b, and I imagine it could be easily implemented in ASM on other calculators.

     4 December 1999, 15:19 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Fission2 Labs Releases Schematics For RadioLinc
83er  Account Info
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I wrote a n encryption program that generates a random matrix, 10 x 10 of #'s 1-1000. It randomly places the quardinents of the quardinents of a user input number in this matrix. The whole program's about 800 bytes. Too big?

     21 January 2000, 20:32 GMT

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