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TI DMCA Situation Update
Posted by Michael on 30 October 2009, 03:20 GMT

First, the good news: TI has completely ignored the EFF's letter and the October 26 deadline, so Brandon's post and Duncan's post are back online. This is great news, although arguably the better situation would have been for TI to sue and lose in the court system, where legal precedent would be established.

The bad news: Because it ignored the letter, TI has bizarrely continued to send improper DMCA takedown notices to websites, including a second notice to Duncan for his other webpage also listing the signing keys! The EFF has posted a news update calling out TI for its behavior. Duncan has filed a DMCA Section 512 counternotice in response to this DMCA abuse.

Update (November 4): For those who haven't yet seen, there is now a news story in the IEEE Spectrum magazine, profiling Brandon and the current situation.

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Re: TI DMCA Situation Update
Kevin Ouellet Account Info
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From a french TI forum, apparently Yaronet received a notice similar to a DMCA too, a LCEN (Digital Economy Trusting Law, or something like that). Now TI is crossing the Atlantic Ocean to threaten people. x.x

Reply to this comment    2 November 2009, 08:57 GMT


Re: Re: TI DMCA Situation Update
Michael Vincent  Account Info
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Can you get more information on this?

Reply to this comment    4 November 2009, 08:23 GMT

Re: Re: Re: TI DMCA Situation Update
Kevin Ouellet Account Info
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Sorry, ticalc won't let me post links, even if they're broken into smaller chunks of under 40 characters (I even tried 20), so see the links attached to my two posts below.

Reply to this comment    4 November 2009, 08:42 GMT


Links
Duncan Smith Account Info
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I know there's a word-length limitation in the body of posts, are you referring to that or to the URL field in the top of the form?

Reply to this comment    4 November 2009, 09:38 GMT


Re: Links
Travis Evans  Account Info

Kevin told me it was in the comment body. He separated the link into chunks of 20 characters separated by spaces, and it still gave the message.

Reply to this comment    4 November 2009, 09:57 GMT

Re: Re: Re: TI DMCA Situation Update
Kevin Ouellet Account Info
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First link.

Reply to this comment    4 November 2009, 08:46 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI DMCA Situation Update
Kevin Ouellet Account Info
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Second link.

You or another ticalc admin might want to look at this under-40-chars-link posting glitch.

Reply to this comment    4 November 2009, 08:48 GMT

Re: TI DMCA Situation Update
bigfatllama bigfatllama  Account Info
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The most interesting thing (to me) is the desire of TI to kill the calculator rather than move to a new device/advanced hardware. Looking at the current TI business strategy, obviously the calculator is on the way out. This would make sense if there was some kind of software development in place for other "smart" devices (you'd have to let me know - i haven't been following) product line (and not reading the rest of the posts), they "appear" to be afraid of someone creating software on the current TIs that will compete with something they are developing for antoher entity. Feel free to lay my claim to rest, but I find it odd that while TI obviously is trying to move out of the calculator market, they are so vehemently concerned about --- the calculator market. Please let me know your thoughts.

Reply to this comment    5 November 2009, 02:57 GMT


Re: Re: TI DMCA Situation Update
Jaeil  Account Info

That actually makes sense. If a third-party OS is invented that outshines the TIOS, gains publicity, and is made commonly available, new products may lose effectiveness as a product because the TI-83 becomes an uber-machine. What TI wants is not a hacker to improve an old calculator and make cheap math available to the masses, but for the masses to buy the TI-NSpire which, I believe, is more expensive, and not as available used as the 83 family. Or perhaps they just think we're somehow better than them and can't stand it.

Reply to this comment    6 November 2009, 01:32 GMT
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