Mega Kudos to the maker of those games.

Lets give BASIC some more respect now!
Only problem is his transfer tuorial on the readme is confusing...

>> Lets give BASIC some more respect now!
Just because a couple BASIC programs are good, it doesn't mean we need to respect BASIC programs. Honestly, 99% of BASIC programs truly can't even compare to ASM or C programs, and I'm tired of hard-headed BASIC programmers that aren't willing to accept that fact. I'm not saying BASIC programmers can't program, I'm just saying they aren't choosing the best language to program in for TI...however, it is a lot /easier/ to program in BASIC, and I think that's its only stong point...

Some basic programs can be very complex-once I downloaded a basic game for my 85, and it truly compared to 85 ASM!

Keyword here is SOME...I'm not saying all BASIC programs are bad, but I AM saying that MOST are...just because a few are good, doesn't mean all are good...that's all I'm saying

I'll admit ASM games certainly beat BASIC hands down in graphics, speed, etc., but you can program a game that is flat-out boring in ASM. If you have a unique concept in your BASIC game, it should hold the player. The main reasons I program in BASIC are
1. On-calc programming (yes, strong pt. #2)
2. ASM takes too long to learn (I spent 5 hrs., then gave up) (also, my simple ASM prgm. messed my calc. Should get an emulator.)
3. BASIC is, as you say, easier.

Five whole hours? That's just bad joke, not a serious attempt.

well, not to be rude kevin. you did a great job but seriously, anyone who plays this for 15 hrs is a little bit of a nerd. think about it. its a calculator. not a game system. actualy if you think about it a gamecube is cheaper than the TI's. go figure. and the gamecube has better games, since it was made for games. i'm not saying calculator games are bad, but if you spend 15 hrs playing on a calculator for ONE game... now over 2 years with pheonix while the teachers up there saying DO THE OPERATION TO BOTH SIDES OF THE EQUATION is understandable but... you get what I'm going at don't you? no offense. this is the best looking basic game i've seen.

but if the game isnt repetative...if a random level were to be created everytime or no two gameplays alike (has lots and LOTS of random stuff), the game would have a much higher replay value.

Hey, forget you guys...this stuff looks awesome!

Okay, I know what you are saying though; not that I would sit there all day playing on my calc, but it still is something to make; you gotta understand that..this guy just acheived an amazing work, in TI-BASIC of all things!

..Yeah, I am going to have to talk with this guy; not many people are as good as me with TI-BASIC (given that it is the worst mor limited language in the world!); I at least will see if there is any optimizing I can do for the programs; I am good at that (no matter how good somebody is, there is always all kinds of stuff that I can do to optimize basic programs)

Quit bragging. It's not that difficult to be good at BASIC. There are many things that I'm sure I could do that you couldn't, and I'm sure goes the same for you with me. Every programmer has his/her strong points...

Very true, although I haven't been programming in BASIC for months now (I'm learning ASM).

Also: A lot of optimizations are REALLY dumb...for example, naming all your variables A,B,C,D,E etc. may help lower the size your program takes up, but going back to modify that program is VERY difficult. Also, putting things in one line "SQRT(SQRT(a^2+b^2)^2 + c^2)->e" is a lot harder to follow than putting it on separate lines:
SQRT(a^2+b^2)->d
SQRT(c^2+d^2)->e
(yes, I know this code could be written "SQRT(a^2+b^2+c^2)->e" but this was just an EXAMPLE)

Well, I can get any program down to 8 bytes using magic. But I am not going to tell you any how I do it.

-W-

Oh, yeah... I can get a program down to 0 bytes! IT IS POSSIBLE!!!

How?

(: Delete it! :)

then there are these people who think that they can get any file on the computer to one byteby zipping it a million times. Heres the site: http://rinkworks.com/stupid/

Wouldn't zipping over and over eventually make it get bigger and bigger? *not sure how zipping works*

Yes, it does. Believe me, I have tried it in moments of extreme stupidity. :-)

(or boredom)

Yes, it does. Believe me, I have tried it in moments of extreme stupidity (or boredom). :-)

Sorry about that double-post!

There goes my theory...

youre not the only one...ill see where i can get the prgm down to (and dont mess with the asm subprgms). itll take a while though. i have a few other projects ahead of everything else right now.

I've been optimizing it a little bit, and I've really only dropped 250 or so bytes...
Of course, I havn't gone all out yet, just various little things (like the fact that he has quite a few blank lines throughout)...