I was wondering if the Ti-83 plus shell and the games will work for the original ti-83? Also, I havn't been keeping track of the 83, (i have an 89 now) so I'm not sure. A little off the article subject, I heard that the 89 isn't allowed on standardized tests anymore, is this true?

The shells and games won't work for the original 83, for the same reasons 83 games won't work on the 83+. I would expect ports though, along with ports to the 82.

As for the 89 on standardized tests, it depends. If the test bans calcs with a CAS, that means the 89 is banned. ( I think this means the HP49G too. I'm not sure on that though ) If they ban QWERTY calcs or only say the 92, then it is allowed. I know the 89 is banned on the ACT, but is allowed on the SAT and AP Calculus (this really ticked off a couple of teachers at my school, who said it makes no sense to allow the 89 if the 92 is allowed. I argee ). I think it is allowed on any AP test that allows the usage of graphics calculators.

Assembly programs for the 83 won't work for the 83+ but will BASIC programs? From what I can tell the languages are the same but I was having problems w/ one of the numerous DrugWars clones and wondered if there were even any slight differences.

Does this mean that any TI83 source can be compiled on a TI83+ by inculding different INC files?

If you read the ION documentation, it says that if you make a program in ION (within the 83's limitations) then it will compile a program for both the 83 and the 83+

-Miles Raymond

You don't have to do anything different to compile for both calcs. As a matter of fact, you just have to #include "ion.inc" once in your source, run it through asm.bat, and you'll get the binaries for both calcs! Asm.bat takes care of everything.

-Dan

Does any one know if emulation of Regular TI-83 games will be possible in the future. If a TI-86 can emulate a TI-85(and even a TI-82), it seems like it would be probable that a TI-83+ would be able to emulate a regular TI-83.

On another note, I really like the shell. It has a similar feel to SOS which is good for someone like me who is switching over. Good Job.

I'm hoping to include support for regular TI-83 programs in my shell, Flash Explorer, which should be released in the near future. I've already got partial emulation working. Whether I can achieve complete compatibility as far as games are concerned remains to be seen.

Another shell for the TI-83 Plus? We already have Ion and Inidium...

Hey - as long as it doesn't have any shell-specific programs, and just runs Ion programs and emulates TI-83 stuff, that wouldn't be so bad.

But one of the _last_ things I think the TI-83 Plus needs is more shells with shell-specific programs. I don't want to see this turn out like the TI-85 or TI-82. As it is, both Ash and CrASH are so similar, they could easily be brought together as one shell.

I have to stick for the 82 here. The 82 is no where near as bad as the 83 or 85. The 82 has 3 independent shells (ASH, CrASH, and OS-82). ASH and CrASH are compatible (at least they will be, if Dines ever releases ASH v3.1), and OS-82 is dead. So there really is not an incompatibility problem with the 82.

The 83 has 7 (Ashell, Aurora, SOS, Anova, Boreal, Ion, TI Explorer) with varying compatibility. The 85 has at least 7 (Zshell, Usgard, SuperNova, Peak, Summit, Rigel, OS-85) with varying compatibility.

Well, I wasn't assuming Ash v3.1 would be out. And rumor has it that a new version of CrASH was being worked on, maybe that isn't true anymore. However, my point was that Ash and CrASH are so similar, it would make better sense to just have one shell.

And for the 83, Aurora, Boreal, and TI Explorer do not have shell-specific programs.

Look at the 86 situation - lots of shells, but there are no shell-specific programs at all.

But I would just like to see the TI community be a little more mature when it comes to the TI-83 Plus, and keep it simple. Lets not have everyone out there trying to make their own shell and their own set of shell-specific programs.

Well I hate to say it, but my shell will have shell specific programs! Don't worry though - It's going to be a Flash ROM application, so I'm going to have stacks of space to write code to support every other TI-83+ shell specific program, including Ion programs. I'm hoping that when Flash Explorer is released, the situation will be like this - Ion specific programs for games, and Flash Explorer specific programs for applications/utilities.

What is Inidium?

While using the ion shell, program a, it gave me an undefined error and then when i turned my calculator off, and ran program a again, the thing cleared my ram. Is this some kind of sick joke?

I would like to decline the comment that I made earlier. It was within the first minutes in which my ram cleared do to the known and widespread bug of the newly ported ztetris. Everything works fine and I'm sorry for whatever emotions I may have stirred up.

I downloaded the new shell ION for the TI-83 plus and I sent It to my calculator and tried to run It but It wouldn't work, Do you know whats wrong with It

I am not sure why your ION doesn't work.....Mine does the same thing...I believ that we are just too dumb to figure it out and need help....
Can someone who knows how to use it properly explain.....thanks


-Mystro

Ok. Just a few things to check. Is your graphlink software specifically for the 83+? I had the same problem as the disks they sent me with the link cable was for the standard 83. You can download the real stuff from this site. If you have the option of sending programs to ram or archive then you are fine. Number two, have you reset your calc before installing. Though this shouldn't actually do anything, it may help. Make sure you are sending the right version of ion. For the 83+ than means ion.xg

Hope this helps.

I would like to download this game in my TI-83 Plus calcultor. Please tell me who to do so... Please tell me which way I have to do it..
Thanks
Samir
samdesalva@hotmail.com
samir3009@hotmail.com

i tried running the new shell but all i got was error syntax.
can u tell me what is happening