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Choice Votes   Percent
CrunchyOS 3 7.3%   
Doors CS 9 22.0%   
Ion 0 0.0%   
Macrodie 1 2.4%   
MirageOS 14 34.1%   
NoShell 2 4.9%   
Plasma 0 0.0%   
The survey editor is a moron and left out... 7 17.1%   
I don't use Z80 calculators 5 12.2%   

Survey posted 2009-07-15 04:31 by Duncan.

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Re: What is your favorite Z80 shell, and why?
Duncan Smith Account Info
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Survey idea courtesy of Jaeil (see link above).

I had to use some discretion to keep the list small, so feel free to use the "moron" option if I made a mistake and left something out that I should have included.

Reply to this comment    15 July 2009, 04:32 GMT

Re: What is your favorite Z80 shell, and why?
Travis Evans Account Info

ZShell? ;-)

Really, though, I don't actively use Z80 calculators anymore, unfortunately. The last one I used was the TI-86. I've never owned any of the TI-83/83+/84+ series since the 68K calcs suited my needs better.

Reply to this comment    15 July 2009, 05:08 GMT

...Venus
Benjamin Moody  Account Info

Although I don't use my 83 very often, I have to say that, from a programmer's standpoint, Venus is the best "shell" (for a sufficiently loose definition of the word) for any of the Z80 calculators.

Venus is fast, it's small, and it doesn't get in your way. Unlike most shells for the 73/82/83/83+, Venus relocates programs without corrupting the variable structure - so Venus programs can safely use all the functions of the OS. It's a shame that more shells weren't designed this way - not to mention the 83 and 83+ OSes themselves! Unfortunately, we're now more-or-less stuck with the existing conventions.

Reply to this comment    15 July 2009, 22:33 GMT

Re: What is your favorite Z80 shell, and why?
mdsb  Account Info
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Voted that I do not use the kind of calculators; never bought one, not sure if I ever will.

Reply to this comment    16 July 2009, 01:03 GMT


Re: Re: What is your favorite Z80 shell, and why?
AJLitzau13  Account Info

Your profile shows that you own an 83+, and you have made a bunch of programs for it, yet you have never owned or used one?

Reply to this comment    16 July 2009, 08:11 GMT


Re: Re: Re: What is your favorite Z80 shell, and why?
mdsb  Account Info
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More accurately: I never installed any of those operating systems on my calculator.
I still have (and use) my 83+; I have installed only the TI released operating systems on my calculator.

Reply to this comment    16 July 2009, 21:31 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: What is your favorite Z80 shell, and why?
KermMartian  Account Info
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All of the above are shells, not operating systems (although some of the authors chose to append "OS" to the shell name).

Reply to this comment    16 July 2009, 21:54 GMT

Re: What is your favorite Z80 shell, and why?
KermMartian  Account Info
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No big surprise which one I voted for. :D

Reply to this comment    16 July 2009, 20:55 GMT


Re: Re: What is your favorite Z80 shell, and why?
graphmastur Account Info

I figured you would have voted for MirageOS. LOL

Reply to this comment    25 July 2009, 02:39 GMT

Re: What is your favorite Z80 shell, and why?
Mr.Z  Account Info
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I have a TI-86, & the closest thing to a shell I ever had on it was a TI-BASIC program I wrote. (My TI-83+ has MirageOS on it, but I never used it much, & now the link port is nearly broken.)

Reply to this comment    18 July 2009, 04:08 GMT

Re: What is your favorite Z80 shell, and why?
The_One_Guy  Account Info

I choose none of the above (I picked the "left out option" option). I find using a "shell" my calculator annoying. I have Mirage OS, but only because most assembly games here require it.

Reply to this comment    18 July 2009, 17:16 GMT


Re: Re: What is your favorite Z80 shell, and why?
The_One_Guy  Account Info

Oops, typo: thats "using a 'shell' ON my calculator"

Reply to this comment    18 July 2009, 17:19 GMT

Re: What is your favorite Z80 shell, and why?
DWedit  Account Info
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It's really too bad that I never finished CrunchyOS.

Reply to this comment    19 July 2009, 18:47 GMT

Re: What is your favorite Z80 shell, and why?
Lewk Account Info
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MirageOS forever!

I used Ion way back when but switched to MirageOS pretty early on.

Reply to this comment    19 July 2009, 19:27 GMT

Re: What is your favorite Z80 shell, and why?
Jaeil  Account Info

I voted for CrunchyOS. But then the site wanted account verification, so I'm not sure if it counted. I had too many RAM clears with Mirage to like it enough.

Reply to this comment    19 July 2009, 19:35 GMT

Re: Re: What is your favorite Z80 shell, and why?
Jaeil  Account Info

Sorry for double post. I forgot to say that whenever I try to install Ion, it doesn't work. Incompatibility or something like that.

Reply to this comment    19 July 2009, 19:55 GMT

Re: Re: What is your favorite Z80 shell, and why?
Benjamin Moody  Account Info

Since version 1.2, I don't believe I've ever seen a crash where Mirage was at fault. Your difficulty was almost certainly a buggy program, which would probably crash, or at least cause memory corruption, regardless of the shell you used.

Reply to this comment    20 July 2009, 01:39 GMT


Re: Re: What is your favorite Z80 shell, and why?
Travis Evans Account Info

You can try voting again—if it already counted, you'll simply get an error message saying so.

Reply to this comment    20 July 2009, 05:31 GMT

Re: What is your favorite Z80 shell, and why?
Michael Vincent  Account Info
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You left out TSE!

Reply to this comment    20 July 2009, 17:59 GMT


Re: Re: What is your favorite Z80 shell, and why?
Duncan Smith Account Info
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I'M SORRY.

Reply to this comment    20 July 2009, 19:20 GMT


Re: Re: Re: What is your favorite Z80 shell, and why?
Nikky Southerland  Account Info
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F!

Reply to this comment    21 July 2009, 02:47 GMT

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