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Choice Votes   Percent
The calculator's operating system 15 6.2%   
Someone else's programming 86 35.7%   
Someone's tutorial that confused me and caused me to crash my calculator 8 3.3%   
Microsoft 51 21.2%   
Michael Vincent 13 5.4%   
The calculator's hardware 2 0.8%   
My calculator can crash? Since when? 15 6.2%   
I only blame myself for whatever happens to my calculator 51 21.2%   

Survey posted 2005-10-30 17:49 by Jon.

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Re: What do you usually blame your calculator's crashes on?
Jonathan Katz  Account Info
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Survey idea by Alex Clink.

Also, I received the most survey ideas this week than I ever have before, so please keep it up! I'm very rushed to be creative for the next couple of weeks.

On an aside, newsletter will be a little late, but just about everything is together. Who will was interviewed this edition? Find out shortly!</teaser>

Reply to this comment    30 October 2005, 20:45 GMT


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Dysfunction  Account Info

It's all Michael V's fault... :)

Reply to this comment    31 October 2005, 01:32 GMT


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Nameon Account Info

I beg to differ it has to be Microsoft's fault....

...just like it is microsoft's fault that this world is soo stuffed up.....

Reply to this comment    1 November 2005, 09:21 GMT

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burntfuse  Account Info
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Right, everything's their fault! (jk)

Reply to this comment    2 November 2005, 20:01 GMT


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matt zelda  Account Info

Amen to that brother
everything is microsoft's fault

Reply to this comment    2 November 2005, 22:28 GMT


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Snave2000  Account Info

The saddest part is that everything doesn't have to be their fault. If Microsoft would just use its monopoly power to create a software product worth using (yes, I'm using Windows right now, but that's beside the point), then no one would need to rag on Microsoft all the time. I realize this is wishful thinking on my part, but if I were CEO of Microsoft...

Reply to this comment    4 November 2005, 16:18 GMT

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Spellshaper Account Info

the only thing I have to add to that:
Microsoft isn´t willing to improve anything as long as they´re getting their precious money...
So Windows is only usable for me the way I use it...
about 1/3 of my windows XP (hate it) is changed in a way... either by implementing other programs doing the job or by ripping out and changing unneeded registry entires...

Reply to this comment    6 November 2005, 17:43 GMT


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burntfuse  Account Info
(Web Page)

That's the problem with a monopoly. They're not forced to keep on improving their stuff the way they would be if there was competition, so unless there's a company in control of the market that really _is_ committed to producing good software *laughs until I choke and die*, it's just going to be this way.

Reply to this comment    6 November 2005, 23:12 GMT

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burntfuse  Account Info
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Yeah, and if they wouldn't try to patent and hide everything to drive out alternative systems like Linux...

Reply to this comment    6 November 2005, 23:10 GMT


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Matthew Baron  Account Info

If you were CEO of Microsoft... please help me because I would say some really nasty thing right here

Reply to this comment    27 May 2006, 20:46 GMT

Re: What do you usually blame your calculator's crashes on?
George Zhao  Account Info

Why is Michael Vincent an option?

Reply to this comment    30 October 2005, 20:58 GMT

Re: Re: What do you usually blame your calculator's crashes on?
Kaaiman  Account Info

Cuz he thinks he's brilliant, like Microsoft.

;-)

Reply to this comment    30 October 2005, 21:06 GMT


Re: Re: Re: What do you usually blame your calculator's crashes on?
Alex Clink  Account Info
(Web Page)

microsoft isn't brilliant

Reply to this comment    30 October 2005, 23:21 GMT

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Coolv  Account Info
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He thinks that he's brilliant, just as Microsoft considers itself to be brilliant...

Reply to this comment    31 October 2005, 03:50 GMT

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Kaaiman  Account Info

You get it ;-)

Reply to this comment    31 October 2005, 17:03 GMT


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Lewk Of Serthic  Account Info
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But he is.

Reply to this comment    1 November 2005, 20:10 GMT

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nicklaszlo Account Info
(Web Page)

Ex employee?

Reply to this comment    31 October 2005, 20:42 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What do you usually blame your calculator's crashes on?
Alex Clink  Account Info
(Web Page)

no, but close. I am a mac user

Reply to this comment    1 November 2005, 21:15 GMT

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MafiaMan Account Info
(Web Page)

GRRRRRRR!!! Evil Mac user!
Click the link, get brainwashed by the evil Microsoft Halo music!

I mean...um...listen to the pretty music.

Reply to this comment    2 November 2005, 02:49 GMT

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MafiaMan Account Info

Sorry, link doesn't work.

Go here:
http://softwarex-files.download.com/sd/ -eZ20JnfueLcYeCeC3VBAlQXRKCjrRiCCXdP41zm vVNqJN3YE7YD2S5P1OKz6Q_fCUi4nn3DO5OVjWN OKbmedHwCPkvSK6p9/ software/10283058/102 83057/3/remembrance.mp3? lop=link&ptype=3000&ontid= 7453&siteId= 4&edId=3&pid=10283058&psid= 10283057

(No spaces)

Reply to this comment    2 November 2005, 02:52 GMT

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anykey  Account Info
(Web Page)

Ouch...
404'd!

Reply to this comment    2 November 2005, 04:16 GMT

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CajunLuke  Account Info
(Web Page)

Allow me to be the first to run to his defence.

Reply to this comment    2 November 2005, 04:57 GMT

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burntfuse  Account Info
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What's so evil about Macs? Better than using M$ products! (Not that I'm not involuntarily tied to them at the moment, unfortunately)

Reply to this comment    2 November 2005, 20:03 GMT


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Snave2000  Account Info

Yeah, I know what you mean. I get by with just using Windows....

Reply to this comment    3 November 2005, 16:38 GMT


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Num Account Info

I don't like Macs. They are way to user friendly, and I hate very much that they have no task manager, so u cant see how busy ur cpu is. Microsoft isn't much better. Linux is much much better. GO LINUX!

Reply to this comment    3 November 2005, 23:51 GMT

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Alex Clink  Account Info
(Web Page)

they do have a "task manager" (command + option + esc) and what is so bad about being able to fling windows everywhere and rearrange them instantly? better than having your computer crash every 2-5 minutes. did you know that when bill gates was presenting new microsoft software he suffered from 3 windows related crashes?

Reply to this comment    4 November 2005, 00:57 GMT

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mr-j  Account Info
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As a Linux proponent, I would imagine that you know about the "top" command. Mac OS is, and has been for many years, based on BSD Unix. However, if you are intimidated by the command line and need a GUI, Apple includes a process manager that gives cpu usage and much, much more. Since you are complaining about user-friendlyness, though, I'd would expect that the "top" command would be fine for you. Yet some aspects of your post suggest otherwise.

This is all off topic, though.

I blame my programs; there's nothing like accidentally overwriting system memory to crash a calculator. Strangely, bugs in my (unreleased!!!) programs have caused the random seed to get entirely screwed up, resulting in a randInt() that returns the bottom boundary of the range every time. Of course, from a statisticians viewpoint it could still be random-- but after 30 times, it is highly, highly unlikely...

Reply to this comment    4 November 2005, 02:19 GMT

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Mr.Z  Account Info
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The random number generator is made like that. It will never set it to that particular value in normal operation because it would cause the aforementioned glitch. Well, assuming the RNG is like on the TI-81, anyway. I have looked at the TI-81 RNG (IDAFree is very helpful for such things) & I know that it both will get stuck at a certain value, & that it is impossible to cause it to go to that value either by running it or reseeding it.

Reply to this comment    4 November 2005, 03:39 GMT

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Mr.Z  Account Info
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The random number generator is made like that. It will never set it to that particular value in normal operation because it would cause the aforementioned glitch. Well, assuming the RNG is like on the TI-81, anyway. I have looked at the TI-81 RNG (IDAFree is very helpful for such things) & I know that it both will get stuck at a certain value, & that it is impossible to cause it to go to that value either by running it or reseeding it (one would have to poke values into certain addresses, which is apparently impossible on a TI-81, of course).

Reply to this comment    4 November 2005, 03:39 GMT


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Mr.Z  Account Info
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Oops...quasi-double-post occured.

Reply to this comment    4 November 2005, 04:03 GMT


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PGK Account Info

Cool- I did not know about the top command. I just use Gkrellm to track my system's status.

Reply to this comment    4 November 2005, 13:42 GMT


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burntfuse  Account Info
(Web Page)

Of course Linux is better...

Reply to this comment    5 November 2005, 20:52 GMT


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farengoth  Account Info

lol
i h8 macs. they don't have DOS =(

Reply to this comment    5 November 2005, 02:34 GMT


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burntfuse  Account Info
(Web Page)

But you can get a bash command line in a terminal, which just beats the crap out of DOS.

Reply to this comment    6 November 2005, 23:13 GMT


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Alecks Bombaya Account Info

How rude! You use McDonalds? Are you a playa of the hamburgers of the world? Sick!

Reply to this comment    23 November 2005, 03:48 GMT

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lalu Account Info

Why not? They have some pretty brilliant guys. I know one of them, from the Applied Statistics group at Microsoft Research.

Reply to this comment    2 November 2005, 21:19 GMT


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Alex Clink  Account Info
(Web Page)

not the people, the computer and it's software.

Reply to this comment    4 November 2005, 00:59 GMT


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MafiaMan Account Info

Microsoft isn't a computer. And they don't make computers either.

Reply to this comment    4 November 2005, 01:41 GMT

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Cuddles  Account Info
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define "computer" (Xbox)

Reply to this comment    4 November 2005, 03:44 GMT


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MafiaMan Account Info

An XBox can only play games(Unless Microsoft realesed XBox-Word(NotLikeyly)). A computer should be able to do many things.

Reply to this comment    5 November 2005, 01:44 GMT

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farengoth  Account Info

ya. a cumputer is basicly a watered down version of an 89 ti...

Reply to this comment    5 November 2005, 02:36 GMT

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burntfuse  Account Info
(Web Page)

Actually, I remember seeing something about people installing Linux on their Xboxes...

Reply to this comment    5 November 2005, 20:53 GMT


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MafiaMan Account Info
(Web Page)

OS X on XBox:
www.cc.gatech.edu/~ranma1/ mac_install.html (no spaces)

Linux on Ipod:
www.xlr8yourmac.com/ feedback/linux_on_ipod/ Linux_on_ipod_review. html (no spaces)

For more things like that, go to hackaday.com(see link).

Reply to this comment    5 November 2005, 21:26 GMT


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Cuddles  Account Info
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An Xbox is a computer. It can do almost anything any other computer can do, it just hasn't been instructed to. Games don't involve much word processing. But I'm sure if someone wanted to waste a lot of money they could write a word processor for the Xbox. Same for Play Station. It would just be run from a CD. The Xbox isn't a desktop, per se, but it is a computer.

Reply to this comment    5 November 2005, 21:58 GMT


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MafiaMan Account Info

According to Microsoft, an XBox is a "Console game system" not a computer.

dictionary.com:
"The Xbox is Microsoft's >>game console<<..."
"Microsoft built the Xbox around industry-standard PC hardware, unlike the traditionally proprietary design of nearly all other gaming consoles. >>However, it still uses standard console architecture.<<"

Reply to this comment    6 November 2005, 05:27 GMT


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burntfuse  Account Info
(Web Page)

But a "console game system" is a computer. Not a desktop, but still a computer.

Reply to this comment    6 November 2005, 23:15 GMT


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Cuddles  Account Info
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in other words, the set of 'console game systems' is a subset of the set of 'computers'. not all computers are console game systems, however, virtually all console game systems are computers. even the lower bit models, like nintendo 64 and NES. our graphing calculators contain computers. many simple calculators are not considered computers though. but still...

Reply to this comment    7 November 2005, 01:42 GMT


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Alex Clink  Account Info
(Web Page)

i meant the OS

Reply to this comment    6 November 2005, 00:11 GMT


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Alecks Bombaya Account Info

You mean the PS? No, I didn't think so. Cause then you would be adding something into a letter after you already closed it.

Reply to this comment    23 November 2005, 03:50 GMT


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Alecks Bombaya Account Info

yur face isn't brilliant

Reply to this comment    23 November 2005, 03:47 GMT

Re: Re: What do you usually blame your calculator's crashes on?
Valera Trubachev  Account Info

Who the crap is Michael Vincent???

Reply to this comment    31 October 2005, 00:45 GMT

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burnsn Account Info
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My hero!

(see link)

Reply to this comment    31 October 2005, 01:58 GMT


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Richard Brosius  Account Info

Long live the legned of Omnicalc!!!

Reply to this comment    31 October 2005, 02:56 GMT


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redsoxfan  Account Info
(Web Page)

Yeah, Omnicalc is great, but I think when you run games from archive a lot and recover the memory a lot it can cause instability.

Reply to this comment    1 November 2005, 16:57 GMT


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Snave2000  Account Info

I've found that the RAM recovery feature is basically only useful to get back programs in your RAM that you want to archive. After every RAM recovery, you should reset your RAM to minimize instability.

Reply to this comment    3 November 2005, 16:40 GMT

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Coolv  Account Info
(Web Page)

N00b...
^_^

Reply to this comment    31 October 2005, 03:52 GMT


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Coolv  Account Info
(Web Page)

J/K

He's a good programmer and the news editor...

Reply to this comment    31 October 2005, 04:04 GMT


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Kevin Ouellet  Account Info
(Web Page)

the one who gave birth to Reuben Quest series

well seriously there would be no reuben without Omnicalc...

Reply to this comment    2 November 2005, 02:25 GMT


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LonePhoenix  Account Info
(Web Page)

omnicalc crashes my calc, as does your programs. in fact, you inspired me to create an anti-omnicalc RPG, which is still in the making, tentatively titled Beowulf 3, which is going to replace my currently buggy Beowulf 3.

Reply to this comment    3 November 2005, 04:25 GMT

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Num Account Info

" you inspired me to create an anti-omnicalc RPG, which is still in the making," I dunno, u need anger management. It works on most people's calcs, so maybe the problem is yours.

Reply to this comment    3 November 2005, 23:53 GMT

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Alex Clink  Account Info
(Web Page)

yes, omnicalc works great on my ti-83+

Reply to this comment    4 November 2005, 01:01 GMT

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Mr.Z  Account Info
(Web Page)

Hee hee...Windows always had problems on my old computer but not on my suitemates' computers, so they always complained about me being a Windows basher. Then again, my new system only has Linux installed, so I will not have that problem again. Now, if I ever get around to writing my own OS, my data better run hide. :)

Reply to this comment    4 November 2005, 03:43 GMT


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Mr.Z  Account Info
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Hee hee...Windows always had problems on my old computer but not on my suitemates' computers, so they always complained about me being a Windows basher. Then again, my new system only has Linux installed, so I will not have that problem again. Now, if I ever get around to writing my own OS, my data better run hide somewhere. :)

Reply to this comment    4 November 2005, 03:43 GMT


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Snave2000  Account Info

Another quasi-double post? :-)

Reply to this comment    4 November 2005, 16:23 GMT


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burntfuse  Account Info
(Web Page)

If all his programs crash on your calc, then it sounds like your calc is the problem, not the programs. Try upgrading the OS or something.

Reply to this comment    4 November 2005, 21:08 GMT

Re: Re: What do you usually blame your calculator's crashes on?
Jonathan Katz  Account Info
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Michael's a choice because he caused my calculator to crash. I'd figure he'd get at least my vote :P

Reply to this comment    31 October 2005, 14:51 GMT


Re: Re: What do you usually blame your calculator's crashes on?
nexon  Account Info

Why Blame Michael? Its all Microsofts Fault!

Reply to this comment    4 November 2005, 19:21 GMT


Re: Re: Re: What do you usually blame your calculator's crashes on?
Jordan L  Account Info
(Web Page)

here, here to that!
check out the Kill Bill shirt on split reason (see the link)

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