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Choice Votes   Percent
Everyday, maybe more than my calculator itself! 12 8.5%   
Everyday, but I still use my calculator more 3 2.1%   
I use it pretty often, mainly to test out my programs 38 26.8%   
Every now and then, maybe to try a program before I send it to my calculator 27 19.0%   
I have one, but I rarely use it 29 20.4%   
I don't have any calculator emulators 29 20.4%   
There are TI calculator emulators? 0 0.0%   
What's an emulator? 4 2.8%   

Survey posted 2005-08-09 02:28 by Jon.

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Re: How often do you use a TI calculator emulator?
Jonathan Katz  Account Info
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Survey idea by me.

Sorry for the delay in getting this survey up, I had a few things going on the past few weeks and it slipped my mind. Please forgive me.

I also want to apologize for the "oftne" typo. It should be fixed shortly :)

Reply to this comment    9 August 2005, 02:33 GMT

Re: Re: How often do you use a TI calculator emulator?
Richard Brosius  Account Info

Thats o.k. we forgive you
LOL
I always look forward to the surveys. I think they are the best part!

Reply to this comment    9 August 2005, 02:35 GMT

Re: Re: Re: How often do you use a TI calculator emulator?
Sebastian Schmied Account Info

I would like to express my forgiveness too, haha!

Reply to this comment    9 August 2005, 15:30 GMT


Re: Re: Re: How often do you use a TI calculator emulator?
Timmc Account Info
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I think some of a programs are good too but the surveys are definately a hit. >=D

Reply to this comment    10 August 2005, 06:35 GMT


Re: Re: How often do you use a TI calculator emulator?
Stierguy  Account Info

on the subject, HOW THE HECK DO I RUN ROM83 ON MY CALC?!

Reply to this comment    14 September 2005, 22:05 GMT

Re: How often do you use a TI calculator emulator?
anykey  Account Info
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Only when I feel like trying out a non-83 game on my illegal 68k ROM images. :^)
Other than that, not very often.

Reply to this comment    9 August 2005, 03:22 GMT

Re: Re: How often do you use a TI calculator emulator?
Lewk Of Serthic  Account Info
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I actually made the desicion to buy my 89Ti based on an illegal 89 rom image.

Reply to this comment    9 August 2005, 04:23 GMT


Re: Re: Re: How often do you use a TI calculator emulator?
Anidn M√©noscwicz  Account Info
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<glare> Lewk...

Reply to this comment    9 August 2005, 14:21 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: How often do you use a TI calculator emulator?
Snave2000  Account Info

Well now, he did end up buying a calc from TI, so in this case, at least, the illegal ROM brought a sale. TI should be happy about that. After all, illegal ROMs made it possible....

Reply to this comment    9 August 2005, 20:27 GMT


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Lewk Of Serthic  Account Info
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That was what my thoughts were.

Reply to this comment    10 August 2005, 03:40 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: How often do you use a TI calculator emulator?
Lewk Of Serthic  Account Info
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<shrink away from monitor and whimper> ...s-s-sorry...

Reply to this comment    10 August 2005, 03:36 GMT

Re: Re: How often do you use a TI calculator emulator?
Chris Williams  Account Info

I really don't see what's "illegal" about a ROM image that you can download from TI's own web site. That's how I got the TI-92+ ROM image (I have the calculator, and I downloaded it because the rom-dump program didn't work, but that's beside the point).

Reply to this comment    9 August 2005, 14:24 GMT

Re: Re: Re: How often do you use a TI calculator emulator?
Richard Brosius  Account Info

Maybe I shouldnt say this since its "illeagal" but here is a hassal free place where you can get, I think 6 differennt ROM images

http: //www.geocities.com / washin99 /ti83 /rom.htm

If you cut and paste remember to take out the spaces before the "/"s

Reply to this comment    9 August 2005, 14:35 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: How often do you use a TI calculator emulator?
Snave2000  Account Info

Well, I went to this site and downloaded the ROMs. I'll try them tonight and report back on if they work or not. (I assume they should)

Reply to this comment    9 August 2005, 18:11 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: How often do you use a TI calculator emulator?
Chris Williams  Account Info

The page says "Netscape does not support the features utilized by this page. Please use Internet Explorer 4.0 or higher instead...I use IE 6.0 SP1" at the top.

Sad. Just sad. (somewhat funny too)

Reply to this comment    9 August 2005, 18:23 GMT

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Snave2000  Account Info

Well, I didn't stick around long enough to find out what "features" weren't supported. Still, I must agree, a disclaimer such as that is rather sad. Microsoft is everywhere....(they're watching us right now....)

The only thing IE should be used for is Windows Updates. For everything else, get Firefox (and nobody gets hurt...except Microsoft!)

Reply to this comment    9 August 2005, 19:57 GMT

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jvdthwip Account Info

Internet Explorer Seven will "pwn" all other browsers.

Reply to this comment    11 August 2005, 15:28 GMT


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Chris Williams  Account Info

Or rather, Internet Explorer 7 will still let malicious web sites pwn your computer. :)

Reply to this comment    11 August 2005, 19:26 GMT

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Snave2000  Account Info

Precisely!

Reply to this comment    13 August 2005, 19:16 GMT


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Lewk Of Serthic  Account Info
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Well said.

Reply to this comment    14 August 2005, 04:55 GMT


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slimey_limey  Account Info
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> Microsoft is watching us now.

Very true. I'm interning there (here?) as I type.

Reply to this comment    16 August 2005, 20:42 GMT


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CajunLuke  Account Info
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What "isn't supported" is a popup menu; it works fine in Safari pretending to be Win IE 6 (user agent spoofing).

Reply to this comment    10 August 2005, 02:21 GMT

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CajunLuke  Account Info
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and the Yahoo! Geocities sidebar; everything else is the same, as far as I can tell

Reply to this comment    10 August 2005, 02:22 GMT


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Chris Williams  Account Info

I'm spoofing the UA now in Firefox, and the menu at the top shows, but the menus don't drop down. In looking at the JavaScript Console, I get an error and eight warnings on mouse over and an error and one warning on mouse out for any one menu item.

The baloney about "Netscape does not support the features..." is just a lame excuse for not writing correct JavaScript. :)

Reply to this comment    10 August 2005, 18:01 GMT


Re: Re: Re: How often do you use a TI calculator emulator?
lalu Account Info

It is illegal if you don't already own the calculator. It is also illegal for anyone except TI to distribute ROM images.

Reply to this comment    9 August 2005, 15:08 GMT


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Chris Williams  Account Info

I agree that it's illegal to redistribute ROM's because of copyright, but I don't believe it's illegal to have a ROM for a calculator you don't own (someone else may have redistributed it to you illegally, but *they're* the one infringing the copyright(s), not you; the same goes for music and all other copyrighted works).

Reply to this comment    9 August 2005, 16:34 GMT

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anykey  Account Info
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...but not drugs. :^)

Reply to this comment    11 August 2005, 00:36 GMT


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Lewk Of Serthic  Account Info
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oh my...

Reply to this comment    11 August 2005, 02:53 GMT


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anykey  Account Info
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Well, if I get caught around any under-age person who is smoking, I can lose my driving permit.
Life really isn't fair. :^(

Reply to this comment    11 August 2005, 13:38 GMT

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Snave2000  Account Info

You just noticed?

Reply to this comment    11 August 2005, 15:29 GMT


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Lewk Of Serthic  Account Info
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Not fair ha!, I'm 16 and I don't have a permit. Of course that's just because I'm too lazy...

That is pretty crazy though.

Reply to this comment    12 August 2005, 03:26 GMT


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Jerk  Account Info

Whoa, another oddball like me, I'm 16 and don't have my permit either.

Reply to this comment    15 August 2005, 18:10 GMT


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Mr.Z  Account Info
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Software often has a clause in its agreement that says you may not use it without having acquired it from a legitimate source, & I am sure that at least some ROMs also have the same in their agreements, but I cannot comment on any specific ROMs or programs.

Reply to this comment    15 August 2005, 02:39 GMT


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Chris Williams  Account Info

Don't agree to their agreements. Problem solved. :)

Usually software really tries to prevent you from using it until you've agreed to the EULA, but that's just a technical and not a legal issue.

Reply to this comment    15 August 2005, 23:39 GMT


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Jason Malinowski  Account Info

Well, it is (possibly) a legal issue. It is (although debated) considered that an EULA is a contract of sorts. If nothing else, the EULA is the only thing that gives you permission to use a file/program/whatever.

Reply to this comment    17 August 2005, 01:34 GMT


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Chris Williams  Account Info

I disagree. You already have the right to use a program. You don't need additional permission. It's just like any other copyrighted work, be it a book or a movie. So, an EULA cannot legally be considered a contract, as it doesn't offer anything in return for your acceptance (and it doesn't allow for any negotiation). An EULA generally tries to take away rights, such as the right to reverse engineer.

Now, you may argue that you can't use the software because you have to install it, and installing involves copying. It is true that you must copy to use it, but US Copyright Law explicitly permits end-users of a copyrighted work to copy it if such copying is necessary to use it (such as copying a program into RAM in order to run it).

Just in case anyone thinks that this argument nullifies the GNU GPL, well, it doesn't. The GPL is a copyright license. It grants rights in addition to all the rights you normally have. You don't even have to agree to it just to use the software (as it ought to be), and in fact that is clearly written in the body of the license itself. (Term 5: "You are not required to accept this License, since you have not signed it.") It grants permission to redistribute the software with a few restrictions, all of which are designed to give all future users the same rights.

I don't think anyone will read this anyhow.

Reply to this comment    17 August 2005, 19:06 GMT


Re: Re: How often do you use a TI calculator emulator?
Jordan L  Account Info
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can you e-mail me a fake rom image that will work? (83+ SE)

Reply to this comment    9 August 2005, 21:07 GMT

Re: Re: Re: How often do you use a TI calculator emulator?
Alex Clink  Account Info

wouldn't you want a REAL rom image?

Reply to this comment    10 August 2005, 02:10 GMT


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Mr.Z  Account Info
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I presume fake so as not to be illegal. Unfortunately, the only non-TI ROM for TI calculators of which I know are for the 68K's, & they do not support very much of what TI's OS does (the math stuff, at least - I am not sure about other calls).

Reply to this comment    11 August 2005, 18:23 GMT


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tdavis07  Account Info

I know the 83+ has an OS out there that includes a ROM file. It is on this site also. It is not illegal though, since the ROM is of the OS replacment, which is perfectly legal

Reply to this comment    16 August 2005, 21:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: How often do you use a TI calculator emulator?
Snave2000  Account Info

Sure, why not. The ROM image is actually not illegal: it's simply the .clc file that comes with the TI-Flash Debugger renamed to have a .rom extension. I don't know if you need to load an OS upgrade to use it or not. I can send you ROMs for TI-73, TI-83+ and TI-83+ SE

Reply to this comment    10 August 2005, 15:36 GMT

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