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Re: What is your primary hardware platform?
Frank A. Nothaft  Account Info
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PPC because its trill.

PPC because it kicks azz.

PPC because of the Mac OS. :)

Reply to this comment    1 September 2003, 05:14 GMT


Re: Re: What is your primary hardware platform?
benryves  Account Info
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Pentium 4 'cos it's not MacOS.
No, not really, but I prefer Win. Still, MacOS has mucher cleaner gamma than a PC... Hmmm.

Reply to this comment    4 September 2003, 16:18 GMT


Re: Re: Re: What is your primary hardware platform?
Chivo  Account Info

Mac OS is not the only OS for PPC. There's also a few mainstream distros of Linux that run on Apple hardware. If I had an old Mac, I'd put Linux on it to give it a new life.

BTW, I picked x86. Commoditization, baby!

Reply to this comment    19 September 2003, 20:55 GMT

Re: What is your primary hardware platform?
Frank A. Nothaft  Account Info
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Well, actually, I'm running on the platform of cutting taxes while making more money... Oh wait up, its the hardware platform? Oh, well, I'm running on the platform of legalizing prostitution there... Oh, computer hardware...

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Reply to this comment    1 September 2003, 16:37 GMT


Re: Re: What is your primary hardware platform?
CajunLuke

Running for governor of California? If I was in CA, I'd vote for any ticalc.org member in the race.

Reply to this comment    2 September 2003, 19:31 GMT


Re: Re: Re: What is your primary hardware platform?
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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I'm glad I can't vote untill next year, its just a mad house over here.

Reply to this comment    3 September 2003, 03:24 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: What is your primary hardware platform?
Cuddles  Account Info

I'm just glad I live in MI, where nothing important or difficult ever happens...

Reply to this comment    3 September 2003, 03:54 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: What is your primary hardware platform?
CajunLuke

My grandparents lived in Florida (West Palm Beach) in the 2000 presidential election, and they moved to CA just in time for the recall. It seems that people can't vote whwereever they live.

Reply to this comment    3 September 2003, 20:01 GMT

Re: What is your primary hardware platform?
JcN  Account Info

I feel stupid asking this:
Is a Celeron an x86? Just want to make sure...

Reply to this comment    1 September 2003, 20:10 GMT

Re: Re: What is your primary hardware platform?
Cuddles  Account Info

yes, it is, i think. and don't feel stupid. it's a perfectly legitimate question. might i ask why everyone feels stupid to ask a question here?

Reply to this comment    1 September 2003, 22:57 GMT


Re: Re: What is your primary hardware platform?
Jiaqi Wu  Account Info

Anything that is compatible with Intel based PCs are x86. The only other company that I'm familiar with that's x86 based is AMD. There is this one other crappy brand but I forgot the name.

Reply to this comment    3 September 2003, 03:52 GMT

Re: Re: Re: What is your primary hardware platform?
The Muffin Man  Account Info
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x86 is my platform, i voted for this because my motherboard(unknown) and CPU(CyrixMII366;@400mhz) are x86, and it's not celeron, IT'S AMD!
I wanted to vote for Z80(83p) but i can't vote twice damnit, merg :@

Reply to this comment    3 September 2003, 10:24 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: What is your primary hardware platform?
benryves  Account Info
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Well, I've a "GenuineIntel".
...the funniest was sticking an AMD K6 into a motherboard, and seeing it load up as "33MHz 486" :)
It didn't work anyway.

Reply to this comment    4 September 2003, 16:19 GMT


Re: Re: Re: What is your primary hardware platform?
Geek_Productions Account Info

VIA is the other x86 compatible proc maker.

Reply to this comment    15 September 2003, 21:39 GMT

Re: What is your primary hardware platform?
TheOmnilord  Account Info

I love the 68k series, and not just because of the 89 either, but rather because it is an awesome chip, and actually possible to program without dying of blood loss from slamming heavy books across your head.

Reply to this comment    1 September 2003, 20:14 GMT


Re: Re: What is your primary hardware platform?
Chivo  Account Info

I agree. The 68k has a very clean and powerful instruction set. I like it very much.

In fact, I think it is a good language for high-level languages (e.g., C) to run on due to its power.

BTW, my primary hardware platform is x86 (AMD K6, 1100.064 MHz, 2195.45 bogomips; yeah, so it's kind of old ;)

Reply to this comment    10 September 2003, 03:12 GMT


Re: Re: Re: What is your primary hardware platform?
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Yeah, without C... there would be a LOT less games for the TI-89. Probably a lot less crappy games (like some of mine), but a lot less games, overall.

Reply to this comment    19 September 2003, 16:41 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: What is your primary hardware platform?
Chivo  Account Info

I think C is good for the TI-89 because it is easier to maintain than asm.

Also, it is better for global (high-level) optimizations, whereas asm is best for local (low-level) optimizations. Most big performance gains are achieved at the global level rather than the local level.

Besides, I think computers should take care of the details anyway (the compiler, that is).

Reply to this comment    19 September 2003, 21:00 GMT

I suppose..
p00ya

.. that all those people who voted z80 must be posting from their TI-83* or 86, using all those vapourware browsers that are 'available'.

C'mon, for must of us this will be x86 (or ppc for the lucky people, and other (mmm sparc) for the luckier still). Yes, your celeron *is* x86, whatever your vendor slapped on the front of your computer.

Reply to this comment    2 September 2003, 11:13 GMT


Re: I suppose..
Jiaqi Wu  Account Info

I really believe most people are just holding a grudge against Intel for no reason. Their chips are actually probably better than some other weird brand like those ones you see at Micro Center. You just have to admit that they are not bad except for the fact that they jack up the price too much. Otherwise they give plenty of proformance. I'd still prefer AMD though.

Reply to this comment    3 September 2003, 03:56 GMT

Re: Re: I suppose..
benryves  Account Info
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Intels are w..a..y.. faster... my 166MHz Pentium was faster than the 450MHz AMDs we have at school in some of the old rooms.
And why do they give their chips such misleading names?A friend bought one, called a "2400", but it only runs at 2Ghz.

Reply to this comment    4 September 2003, 16:21 GMT

Re: Re: Re: I suppose..
Geek_Productions Account Info

AMD bases it's proc designations on the "equivalent" Intel proc, even though AMD procs are clocked slower (and usually don't size up to their "equivalent" Pentium.)

Reply to this comment    4 September 2003, 20:28 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: I suppose..
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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Yeah, AMD's procs are more efficient (they take less "steps" to do something) so the comparison is close but still off.

Reply to this comment    5 September 2003, 02:38 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I suppose..
Frank A. Nothaft  Account Info
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Same with IBM proccessors.

I can't wait for the PPC 980, its gonna be based on the Power5 server chip.

Reply to this comment    6 September 2003, 23:27 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I suppose..
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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what is your handle in the macaddict forum?

Reply to this comment    8 September 2003, 17:27 GMT


Re: Re: Re: I suppose..
The Muffin Man  Account Info
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RE:benryves
JUST a guestion,
Are the 450 at your friends school on a slow network, ie need to boot via network?
Because at my school it does and the 550mhz P3 run pretty slow compared to my Cyrix MII 336 (400mhz), so yeh, there can be a lot of things affecting performance in CPU speed with a lot of programs running...
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Reply to this comment    5 September 2003, 12:02 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: I suppose..
The Muffin Man  Account Info
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Blarg
>Open "Previous Comment"
>Del "friend"
>write "your"
>close

Reply to this comment    5 September 2003, 12:09 GMT


Re: Re: I suppose..
Matthew Marshall  Account Info

I would say that their close association with Windows is a good reason for a grudge. At least they are starting to make up for that, with optimising for Linux and all.

MWM

Reply to this comment    12 September 2003, 14:09 GMT


Re: Re: Re: I suppose..
Soth  Account Info
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The grudge is quite old. Intel used to produce some of the best x86 chips (and also produced the first). They also ramped up the price stupidly, and when all other competition was destroyed intel could stop producing quality - which they did, the first pentium class chips had a lot of hype for a load of trash.

Then along comes AMD. Serious competition. Intel are now again making decent chips.

Which is better? Well AMD are cheaper, and have a more efficient processing technique then Intel. - Hence a 1700XP running at 1434MHz - It can easily keep pace with the intels that run at 1700MHz.
They only call them 1700XP+ because the average person belives that big numbers mean a better product.
Intel currently have the fastest clock speeds as AMD put more research into improving chip architecture.
Price is the main factor.

Also x86 is far from the best chips.
A 68k based Atari STfm (at 8MHz) can easily outpace a 66MHz x86 on same tasks - okay a lot of this is also down to poorly written software, but the atari would always outpace a 25MHz x86. - so the 68k platform is better.
PPC - well these make 68k look slow and ineffiecent.
PPCG5, at last 64-bit PCs. TeHe
Sparc, puts all the above to shame.


I can forgive intel's friendship with Satan and his son William. They are just going where the money is (mercenary swines). I still won't pay for one though.

Reply to this comment    19 September 2003, 15:43 GMT

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