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Ice Hockey 68k Released
Posted by Michael on 5 December 2003, 13:39 GMT

[Ice Hockey]Travis Fischer has released an incredible game for the 89/92+/Voyage 200, Ice Hockey 68k. This full-featured game has exhibition, tournament, shoot-out, and practice play among 31 NHL teams. It is player versus calculator, calculator versus calculator, or player versus player in linked multiplayer mode. There are slew of other details to this game that enhance the realism, such as different player types. Face-off!

 


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Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Wow! Weird, I was just looking at this file, and then I come back to the main page and there's a news article on it! This looks A LOT like that NES version of the game. I have a lot of NES games (on a REAL NES too!) :-D

I will definitely have to try this out, since I like the NES version.

And speaking of ice/cold things... it snowed a lot today. School was canceled. That's why I'm here this early.

     5 December 2003, 13:48 GMT

Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Nice! It runs on a HW1 with AMS 2.08!!! This game is pretty fun, though the small screen makes it harder to play, and the controls will probably take a while to get used to, because the computer is killing me. This is similar to the NES version, graphics wise, though there are a lot of differences... still, this is a good program. I'm keeping it on my calc. :)

     5 December 2003, 13:59 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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Why are you on 2.08. There's bugs in their that are fixed with 2.09 without that myth of 64KB of archive being eaten every time. BTW, has someone ported MaxMem to 2.09? I can't live without it so I decided tp go back to 2.05. I like the Desk Top, but I don't have enough memory to make ID worth while :( :( :(.

     5 December 2003, 21:22 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Kevin Kofler Account Info
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The following _should_ work (_not_ tested, USE THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK!):
Open the 89u file in a hexeditor, search for the hex string 0000000162, and in the _first_ occurrence (and the first _only_), replace 62 with 60.
Then send the file using the _TIB_Receiver_ (!!!).

     6 December 2003, 00:03 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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I need a hew editor. Any suggestions?

     6 December 2003, 02:21 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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read "hex editor"

     6 December 2003, 03:57 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Chivo  Account Info

How about xxd? Redirect its output to a text file, change that file, then patch the original using xxd again with its patching feature.

This works unless you use some incompetent OS like MS Windows (I feel sorry if you do).

     6 December 2003, 21:39 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Michael McElroy Account Info
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If you have Windows, use WinHex or UltraEdit.
They're far better than some command line crap like what he mentioned ;-)

     6 December 2003, 22:39 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Cool, thanks.

And if anybody is too lazy to find one of these, then use the following links...

http://www. x-ways.net/ winhex/index-m.html
http://www. ultraedit.com/ downloads/index.html
(remove spaces)

and I also found a few more, while I was searching...

http://www. hexworkshop.com/ screen_shots.html
http://www. softcircuits.com/ cygnus/
http://www. hhdsoftware.com/ hexeditor.html

wow, there are a lot of hex editors out there...

     7 December 2003, 16:30 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Oh, you know what? I think I do have 2.09 on there, now that I think about it. Either way, I should probably go back to 2.05.

     6 December 2003, 16:58 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Michael McElroy Account Info
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Yes. Without a doubt. Do it. You'll thank yourself.

     6 December 2003, 22:39 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Michael McElroy Account Info
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I'm not sure about the whole '64K being eaten' thing, but when I went from 2.05 (the BEST one so far) to 2.08 (the most BLOATED one so far) I lost 100K of archive memory. Not to mention that I had to go through a tedious backup and restore process for over 550 files.

Stick with 2.05 . I've been using it since I got my 89 and I've never complained about it once.

     6 December 2003, 22:38 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Drantin  Account Info

Hehe... I complained about it... when I got 2.05 there wasn't an on-calc hw2patch for it, and I upgraded before checking on that... (it came with 2.03...)

     7 December 2003, 20:19 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Dust_Storm Account Info

Where do you get 2.05 since it is old?

     9 December 2003, 02:05 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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Most of us keep a copy laying around on our HDD.

     9 December 2003, 04:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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The Flash ROM is sectioned off in 64KB chunks. What happened is when the new OS got just a tad bit larger it spilled over into the next chunk. Although it happened with one or two OSs, 'everyone' now believes that a new OS means 64KB less archive. I quoted myth because it does not happen unless the size is so much larger, but has happened.

"Not to mention that I had to go through a tedious backup and restore process for over 550 files. "

That should not be much of a problem if you send everything from a group file. I have backups that are >2MB, that takes longer to transfer than an OS. I also have to sit by to confirm garbage collections.

     9 December 2003, 05:00 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Michael McElroy Account Info
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It was a problem because it sends everything to RAM. I had my entire archive and nearly my entire RAM full, originally, so a) I couldn't get everything on there, and b) I had to split the group up into chunks, send a chunk, archive it, send the next chunk... etc. Plus, I had to remember which files were in archive and which were in RAM.

     10 December 2003, 17:54 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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It can send stuff directly to archive. There are at leat three different methods to initiate transfer.

     10 December 2003, 21:58 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
W Hibdon  Account Info

Also, if you use backup with ticonnect, everything in archive will return to archive.

-W-

     10 December 2003, 22:40 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Michael McElroy Account Info
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Oddly enough, that didn't work for me. In fact, more often than not, TI-Connect fails partway through the backup process.

     11 December 2003, 11:44 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Michael McElroy Account Info
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... I've never gotten any TI linking program to send directly to archive... TEACH ME! oh great teacher of things.

     11 December 2003, 11:43 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Michael McElroy Account Info
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You didn't quote myth.
"There's bugs in their that are fixed with 2.09 without that myth of 64KB of archive being eaten every time."
No quotes.

     18 December 2003, 10:27 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
killerB  Account Info
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I was on 2.08 with my HW1 TI-89. I heard it was pulled by TI and that they later replaced it with AMS 2.09. After lots of procrastination, I finally upgraded to 2.09 because it got to be nearly impossible to send stuff between my computer and calc, even with a USB link.

At first, I couldn't even start the upgrade. Finally, I got it working, and was up to about 5%, but it stopped suddenly, and wasn't able to connect again.

You know what happens when you upgrade to a new OS? It deletes the old one before completely receiving the new one. So, my calculator was stuck in receive OS mode, and was unable to receive an OS.

I gave up and sent it to TI. They couldn't fix it either, but they replaced my calc with a new HW2 TI-89. I went ahead and upgraded to 2.09, and I like it just fine.

TI support people are some of the best folks in the world; I don't think anyone can do much better than them.

     8 December 2003, 01:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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"You know what happens when you upgrade to a new OS? It deletes the old one before completely receiving the new one. So, my calculator was stuck in receive OS mode, and was unable to receive an OS."

Yeah, that happens to a lot of people. Its called the boot screen. You can still put an OS onto the calc if that happens btw. I've had to do it myself a many a time. Sorry to here about your plight, but glad you got everything fixed

     9 December 2003, 05:03 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
W Hibdon  Account Info

Okay, about that return polocy. Say a bit inside fried, and I took it apart. Also say that is does not have any of the screws in the case. Would TI give me another one for it?

If the answer is yes, i think I will piss my pants.

-W-

     9 December 2003, 17:34 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Michael McElroy Account Info
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You took it apart? Whoops, there goes your warranty! No replacement for you!

     10 December 2003, 17:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
W Hibdon  Account Info

well, my hopes were not high. I will try it anyway. What have I to lose other than 7 or 8 bucks?

-W-

     10 December 2003, 22:43 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
killerB  Account Info
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yeah, you definitely should try. i e-mailed them first, and they asked that i send my calc in to them. pretty nice folks--mine's warranty had actually expired, but they still offered to service mine free of charge, and then replaced it for free. heck, they even sent it 2d day air, so i'd have it in time for an exam.

     11 December 2003, 01:19 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
ti_is_good_++  Account Info

Speaking of calculators getting fried, my Voyage 200 was assembled incorrectly and someone left a screw inside, resulting in the scratching of the traces between the batteries and the power buses :(.

They replaced it, though.

     29 December 2003, 06:32 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
killerB  Account Info
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yeah, i know about the boot screen.

>You can still put an OS onto the calc if that happens btw.
yes, that is sometimes right. on a *normal* calculator, if a break in communication occurs, you can still send a new (or old) OS to the calculator (i think u just press 'I' or '|' or something). Anyway, like I said, I tried continuing the communication, I used that key, I tried both my black serial port cable and my USB link, but the calculator was unable to receive data. I even tried using new batteries, since old ones sometimes prevent an OS upgrade. btw, the only way to turn off the calc from boot mode is to remove the batteries. I sent my calc to TI (w/ batteries, jic), and they couldn't transfer data either.

Thanks, though, i'm glad it's over, too.

     11 December 2003, 01:10 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Michael McElroy Account Info
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"it's".
"hear".

     18 December 2003, 10:28 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Michael McElroy Account Info
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"there are"
"desktop"
ID?

     18 December 2003, 10:26 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
ti_is_good_++  Account Info

ID=Integrated Desktop. It provides shortcuts on the desktop to executables.

     31 December 2003, 06:44 GMT

Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
benryves  Account Info
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Yeah, I saw it too, clicked --- and there's an article on it.
Shame I don't have an 89.

     5 December 2003, 14:11 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
KermMartian Account Info
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I too noticed that, saw it was an incredible-looking program, and wondered if there would be a news article about it. Too bad that it's for 68k :(

     5 December 2003, 15:39 GMT

Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Brian Gordon Account Info
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you get up early when school's cancelled?! School is cancelled here (maryland USA), but I just get up when i'm woken up. Thank God for the snow! Today I missed a spanish quiz, Biology homework due, a Computer test, and tons more.
BTW have you noticed that the birds havent migrated yet? I am looking out the window and there are tons of birds just swerving around in the snow.

     5 December 2003, 14:41 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Well, if you really want to know (as embarrassing as it is), we didn't know that school was canceled until it was too late. I trudged down to the bus stop through the snow and waited and waited until this old guy came outside and told us that he heard on the radio that it was canceled. Oh well. And it's really not even snowing that much. Just a few inches, probably 4-6. I didn't even get to sleep in. Oh well.

YAY! I finally beat the computer! I think it is weird how the goalies can come completely out of the box, like that. That makes the game a little harder (for you) because if you bring your goalie out my accident (which isn't hard to do), then it can end up really bad for you. Also, how does the timer work on the HW1 calcs? They don't have a timer, right? Anyway, my timer is messed up. Probably the 2.08 AMS. It's always like this- the cursor blinks really fast and the APD also turns the calc off a lot sooner then it should. After a reset, it's fine, but it always goes back to that fast blinking state after a while. Maybe I should put AMS 2.05 back on.

</ramble>

     5 December 2003, 21:12 GMT

~
Ti-89_Coder Account Info

Actually, I have found it helpful to be able to move the goalie out and about. After many terrible defeats, I have improved and can now send the goalie across the rink and score sometimes. In shootouts, the ability of the goalie to come out is the key to victory. If he charges the opposing player, he can swipe the puck, take it away, and actually score! In fact, it is possible to win a shootout in 2 rounds with four back-to-back scores, two from the wingman, two from the goalie. I've done it!

     5 December 2003, 21:28 GMT


Re: ~
Kevin Kofler Account Info
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Well, you shouldn't have enough time to do that... Is this on HW1 or on HW2?

     6 December 2003, 00:06 GMT

Here's what I'm using...
Ti-89_Coder Account Info

Ti-89 HW1 w/ AMS2.05 and MaxMem

     6 December 2003, 14:42 GMT


Re: Re: ~
Fisch2  Account Info

Yes, with the speed increase of about 3-4 fps in this newest version, players have enough time to easily swipe the puck with their goalie and then score on the opposite side.

     7 December 2003, 04:30 GMT


Re: Ice Hockey
killerB  Account Info
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hey!

that's a great game, u did an awesome job w/ it.

     8 December 2003, 00:33 GMT

Fisch! There's a bug!
Ti-89_Coder Account Info

I found this bug in Ice Hockey 68k v0.62, but judging from your history file it is probably still present in the latest version. When playing a tournament, there is a problem: a victory advance you to the next round and a loss kicks you out, but shootouts do not work correctly. Even a win in a shootout ends the tournament without any sort of explanatory message.

     8 December 2003, 11:23 GMT


Re: Fisch! There's a bug!
Fisch2  Account Info

Thank you for the report. I have found and fixed the problem.

     9 December 2003, 02:16 GMT


Re: Re: Ice Hockey!!!
killerB  Account Info
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On the subject of hockey...

Check out my link!

Cool stuff!

btw, how about casting a vote for Keith Sales?

     11 December 2003, 03:43 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Kevin Kofler Account Info
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There are other, less accurate, but good enough for a game methods of time-keeping.
The timer is hooked on AI5, same as TI-Chess.

     6 December 2003, 00:07 GMT

Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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Fisch wanted the game to be as close to the NES original as possible. I love beta testing, I got to play that thing for a while! Oh, almost forgot I help fix bugs too ;)

     5 December 2003, 18:47 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
angelboy Account Info
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Yes, beta testing is awesome. I helped another kid test linkplay, which has been greatly improved in this version. Good job!!

     5 December 2003, 21:19 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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I also glad he took advantage of the V200's screen size. It kind of gives us big screen users a cheating advantage ;).

     5 December 2003, 21:24 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Michael McElroy Account Info
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"I'm"

     18 December 2003, 10:29 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Michael McElroy Account Info
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At this point in the thread, there USED to be a thread about how to become a Sony beta tester, but it was deleted without any notification and no way to know it was ever there.

     11 December 2003, 23:31 GMT

Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
jrock7286  Account Info

Snow...hehe...It's in the 70's here in Arizona... :)

     5 December 2003, 20:59 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
TheGreatOne  Account Info

Yup, gotta love AZ. Nice and only 35-40 degrees in the early morning too, except Flagstaff. Too bad most arizonans have probably never seen real snow and would be fascinated by it. The closest thing to snow I see is that little mound of ice they send to elementry schools sometimes, except their budgets are pretty low now so none this year.

     6 December 2003, 22:02 GMT


Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
Konrad Meyer  Account Info
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lol... our school was cancelled too, but because of power outages from gusty winds... luckily we didnt lose power :)

     6 December 2003, 03:30 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Ice Hockey 68k Released
killerB  Account Info
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I'm probably farther south, but I don't think our school's ever gonna cancel until it's too late.
There's no way we'd cancel for "snow showers."

We roughed it out even during Hurricane Isabel not so long ago. We had power problems with all the winds, too, but that didn't stop them from holding classes.

     8 December 2003, 01:13 GMT

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