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Command Post Released
Posted by Michael on 17 February 2003, 04:34 GMT

Command PostGreg Dietsche has released his utility Command Post for the 89, 92+, and Voyage 200. This flash application provides advanced facilities for 68k developers to debug and test their programs on the calculator. It has anti-crash protection, leak watching, an extensive hex editor, and many other tools. Developers will soon love this program, and everyone now has the ability to examine and learn from the calculator's structure.

 


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Re: Command Post Released
DHC015 Account Info
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That looks awesome! Thanks!

     17 February 2003, 04:38 GMT

Re: Re: Command Post Released
Merlijn den Boer  Account Info
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Does ticalc upload files by date or by coolness? I've uploaded my file months ago but it has still not appeared yet. This command post file has been made and added to the pending list on February 15th, 2003 and is added to the archive the same day! Why?

     17 February 2003, 12:47 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
nyall Account Info
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Because there is a news item about it.

     17 February 2003, 14:02 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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They really need to get working on the archives... I've had files in there for months. What's the queue up to now?

     17 February 2003, 16:01 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Chickendude  Account Info
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Has anybody heard anything about the new filearchivers?

     17 February 2003, 19:36 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Magnus Hagander  Account Info
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We're working on summing up our impressions of the applications (there were a *lot* of them), and expect to be contacting people about interviews sometime this week. Hopefully.

     17 February 2003, 20:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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How are the interviews conducted wiht those that applied that do not have an instant messanger?

     17 February 2003, 20:40 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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E-mail, perhaps?

I don't know, but I do remember them saying that not haiving IM wouldn't disqualify you.

     17 February 2003, 21:46 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Magnus Hagander  Account Info
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IRC is our secondary choice there.

     18 February 2003, 18:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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I don't have any chatting programs... if I were to apply for something here that required an interview, then what would you use for interviews?

     18 February 2003, 21:48 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Chickendude  Account Info
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I have pretty much everything :) But I'm sure you could just talk via E-mail.

     19 February 2003, 19:50 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Theycallmeyams  Account Info

I signed up for the position, but still havent heard from them yet. I probally won't get the job because of an inappropriate file I uploaded.

     18 February 2003, 00:16 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Morgan Davies  Account Info
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Your Author Profile Page is rather empty right now. It is kind of odd that you have 0 files but you still have some downloads. Looks like there ae still a few bugs in the sites system.

     18 February 2003, 01:38 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Theycallmeyams  Account Info

Hey, I have the game Lights Out pending, And the game Weed4 was the Inappropriate file.

     18 February 2003, 18:21 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Bad games, lol :) They did do a lot of work, taking all those files out... remember that long wait?

     18 February 2003, 21:50 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Don't remind them! ;-)

I don't know if they'd disqualify you for that or not. I guess it would depend on how bad it was, but another drug game really isn't that bad. After all, that game Drug Wars was probably the most popular BASIC game ever made. (and I never tried it while I had the chance lol)

     18 February 2003, 21:53 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Theycallmeyams  Account Info

well, too late now. I just want the job, so I'm going the honesty route.

BTW, I have a copy of drugwars, if you would like a copy of it, and I'll even through in a copy of Weed4. (It was a big hit at my school.)

     19 February 2003, 00:56 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Chickendude  Account Info
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I used to have that, a kid at my school made a couple versions (they were HUGE levels). I used those programs to learn BASIC :) And I wouldn't mind a copy, just for old-times sake. Does calc.org allow those kind of files? They used to even when ticalc.org didn't...

     19 February 2003, 19:54 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
JcN  Account Info

No_one, how do you get your files pending queue to display? Whenever I click on Manage Author Information I get a page telling me to attach an author profile. I've already started uploading the 60 files I have created over the past few years that are worth publishing, and I am not receiving any sort of queue like you and others described. What am I doing wrong?

     18 February 2003, 03:30 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
benryves  Account Info
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Try re-attaching your profile...

     18 February 2003, 09:11 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Magnus Hagander  Account Info
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You need to first have an author profile. Which is created when your first file gets approved in the archives.

I thought it showed the queue even when you didn't have one. Perhaps it doesn't. I should probably check that out.

     18 February 2003, 18:57 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
JcN  Account Info

Thanks, Magnus. I don't have any files approved yet, but I've uploaded a few, and I'm still uploading them. I guess I'll have to wait for at least one out of 63 to be approved.

     19 February 2003, 04:09 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Chickendude  Account Info
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Maybe one of the new archivers will upload it!

     19 February 2003, 19:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
JcN  Account Info

Hopefully sometime before next year, though (lol).

Actually, I'd like to thank the archivers for all of their hard, stressful work that they need to do every day to reduce the pending queue. *applause*

     20 February 2003, 04:09 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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It could be because none of them were actually uploaded yet. Are they all still in the archives? If you wait long enough, they'll come in and most likely your author profile should come up. I started mine a long time ago, so I really don't remember too well.

     18 February 2003, 21:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
JcN  Account Info

Thanks, no_one. None of my files have been approved (due to the oversized queue), but I've started uploading all 63, and I hope that in a few months at least one will be approved.

     19 February 2003, 04:10 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Nathan Crank  Account Info
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you know what, they dont HAVE to, they run the place, they can do whatever they want. And since we arent paying them, we don't really have an say.

     18 February 2003, 15:33 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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I realize that and I wasn't trying to be demanding...

     18 February 2003, 21:57 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Nathan Crank  Account Info
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its not even like they make money of advertising, they can do whatever they like, and at what ever pace they want to.

That is, unless of course, they want to keep their userbase.

     18 February 2003, 15:34 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
angelboy Account Info
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It's because our programs aren't good enough, no offence or anything

     17 February 2003, 16:55 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Merlijn (did I spell your name right?) has made some very good programs. It's not because of the quality, it's about if they have a news item or not. Somebody e-mails them saying "Yo, I got a cool file, bla bla bla...." and they check it out, and if they think it's good enough they make a news item about it.

     17 February 2003, 21:47 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Nathan Crank  Account Info
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quit changing what you go by. Choose angelboy (gay sounding) or your name. Stick with it.

And yes, ther are archived by a little bias, but that is ok by me, cuz it seems like the good programs get updated first. So I dont care.

I havent found this program useful yet, but I did have fun screwin around with it. Great Job.

     18 February 2003, 16:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
scott_shortonideas Account Info
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I'm replying to Merlijn den Boer's comment, put it this way, let's say MirageOS II was released. Would you want to wait until everything else before it was added to the archives, or just have it now?

     18 February 2003, 22:13 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Chickendude  Account Info
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But by the time that that ever happens (if it does) the file queue should be down anyways :p

     19 February 2003, 19:58 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Nathan Crank  Account Info
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I think you missed scotts point

     19 February 2003, 21:31 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
lalu

In fairness, I would wait for it to be uploaded, prioritized by date.

     20 February 2003, 01:11 GMT

Re: Re: Command Post Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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This is great, but there's only one problem, C programmers probably won't find this as useful as ASM programmers will.

     17 February 2003, 15:56 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
ac  Account Info

Oh, well. Learn ASM.

     17 February 2003, 16:42 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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lol, I should learn 68k sometime, but C is too nice to get away from. :) I do like z80, though.

     17 February 2003, 21:48 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Nathan Crank  Account Info
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Well, he didnt make it for C programmeers now did he.

     17 February 2003, 17:50 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
swtaarrs  Account Info
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He made it for Flash App programmers. And since the ti flash sdk uses a c compiler, he did make it for c programmers.

     17 February 2003, 18:28 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Nathan Crank  Account Info
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blah blah blah
jk
whatever, I cant program ever, I was just commenting on No_one complaining...

     17 February 2003, 20:34 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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I wasn't complaining! *cry* I think this is a great piece of software (though the payment thing is a bit odd).

     17 February 2003, 21:49 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Nathan Crank  Account Info
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that was supposed to read, I cant program either of them (being C or asm)

     17 February 2003, 23:01 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Theycallmeyams  Account Info

Woah, now. You are telling me that if I know C, then I can program an app with no problems? I have been looking for an app tutorial for some time, and now you tell me that C will do it?

     18 February 2003, 00:19 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
swtaarrs  Account Info
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Well, there's a difference between knowing C and knowing how to program an app. The ti flash sdk uses a c compiler, but you have to learn the specifics of app programming. Knowing c will be a HUGE help, but it certainly won't make it an easy ride.

     18 February 2003, 05:39 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Theycallmeyams  Account Info

so what else do I neede to know? Where Can I find this information? Like I said, I've been trying to find info on this particular topic for quite some time.

     18 February 2003, 18:26 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
swtaarrs  Account Info
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If you download the Flash SDK from TI you can also download the documentation for it. You can also ask people who have made apps like Greg. Unless you absolutely need to make an app, I suggest using tigcc for programming.

     18 February 2003, 20:34 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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And all of you probably know this already, but just in case, there's a great C tutorial at technoplaza.net

     18 February 2003, 22:05 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Theycallmeyams  Account Info

See, I wanted to make an app similar to MirageOS for the 83+. While I could do it as a program, I'd rather do it as an app, for personal reasons.

     19 February 2003, 00:58 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
JcN  Account Info

swtaarrs, how does one make an app with the Flash SDK? Is it raw HEX code, or is it in z80 or A68K assembly?

     19 February 2003, 04:12 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
swtaarrs  Account Info
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The sdk for the 68k calcs is in C. I'm not sure about the z80 calcs, I think that one might be assembly.

     19 February 2003, 20:27 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
JcN  Account Info

Is the Flash SDK for 68K calcs different from TIGCC? If so, where can I get it?

     20 February 2003, 04:11 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
swtaarrs  Account Info
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It is different from tigcc. It's somewhere at education.ti.com. However, I HIGHLY recommend tigcc over the sdk. It has a better (imho) library, more people willing to help you with it, and it's open source :-).

     20 February 2003, 07:21 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
JcN  Account Info

Is there a way to develop Flash Apps with TIGCC?

     23 February 2003, 03:10 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Kevin Kofler
(Web Page)

No.

     24 February 2003, 23:54 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
JcN  Account Info

p00p.

When one writes a Flash App for a z80 calc, is it written in Assembly or HEX? (I was so confused when I tried to run the debugger, that I didn't even know which was which). Also, when one writes Flash Apps for MC68000 calcs, can they be written in C and compiled via their flash developers?

     25 February 2003, 05:50 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Kevin Kofler
(Web Page)

>When one writes a Flash App for a z80 calc, is it written in Assembly or HEX?

Assembly (Z80 assembly of course).


>Also, when one writes Flash Apps for MC68000 calcs, can they be written in C and compiled via their flash developers?

Their 68k Flash SDK is for C compiling, so of course they can be written in C. It's even your only practical choice.

     26 February 2003, 00:10 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
Theycallmeyams  Account Info

Could I write the App in assembly, if i were so inclined?

     19 February 2003, 01:26 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Command Post Released
swtaarrs  Account Info
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I think the sdk might support inline assembly, but I'm not sure. You'd have to ask Greg or someone else who knows more about app programming for definitive answers.

     20 February 2003, 16:16 GMT


Re: Re: Command Post Released
Lithium  Account Info
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You know what would be really nice? Something like this for the TI-83+. I've seen smaller programs but something that puts it all in one app.

     19 February 2003, 03:30 GMT

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