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KerNO Released
Posted by Eric on 4 November 2001, 04:57 GMT

Believe it or not, stuff is getting released nowadays, even with our archives down. Greg Dietsche has released KerNO, a kernel for the TI-89 designed expressly for nostub programs. It's an extremely small kernel that provides many of the features included in other shells such as DoorsOS. Check out his webpage for more information.

 


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Re: KerNO Released
Nitrocloud  Account Info
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Interesting...

     4 November 2001, 21:15 GMT

Re: KerNO Released
David Phillips  Account Info
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Doesn't that defeat the purpose of nostub programs?

     5 November 2001, 09:21 GMT

Re: Re: KerNO Released
DWedit  Account Info
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you DO get crash protection though...

     5 November 2001, 09:56 GMT

Re: Re: KerNO Released
crackertd14 Account Info

yea, exactly. nostub games are for people who dont use kernels, and are made to NOT use kernals. I dont see why you would ever need this, just uses time and space.

     5 November 2001, 13:12 GMT


Re: Re: Re: KerNO Released
dietsche Account Info
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You need to make sure that you know what you are talking about before posting.

     28 November 2001, 01:22 GMT

Re: Re: KerNO Released
Michael Vincent  Account Info
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I find it rather funny...A kernel for no-kernel programs!

     5 November 2001, 14:25 GMT


Re: Re: Re: KerNO Released
dietsche Account Info
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Actually, i prefer to call it a kerno... emphasis on the no.

     5 November 2001, 15:13 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: KerNO Released
lord_nightrose Account Info
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I see.

     6 November 2001, 18:18 GMT

Re: Re: KerNO Released
dietsche Account Info
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Or, does it enhance the 'purpose' of nostub programs?
It is not required that Kerno be installed for a nostub program to be run on a calculator, and there are no patches or anything that needs to be done to the programs to make them work with kerno. Kerno simply makes the calculator more stable and user friendly.

p.s. What is the purpose of nostub programs? I always thought that they have no stub where as DoorsOS programs do...

     5 November 2001, 15:11 GMT

Re: Re: Re: KerNO Released
lord_nightrose Account Info
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They can be run without a DoorsOS-style kernel. In other words, you can put one on a completely empty calculator and it'll run perfectly.

     6 November 2001, 18:19 GMT

Re: Re: Re: KerNO Released
lord_nightrose Account Info
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Or at least as perfectly as it was programmed...

     6 November 2001, 18:19 GMT


Re: Re: Re: KerNO Released
dietsche Account Info
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I guess I shouldn't have used the word purpose... I should have said The fundamental difference between nostub and doors os programs is the "stub" or the lack of a "stub"
technically, doors os programs could be more accurately called stub programs.

     28 November 2001, 01:20 GMT


Re: Re: KerNO Released
Samuel Stearley
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Kerno is simply anti-crash protection and some other stuff. It does no fancy library relocation that other kernels do

     5 November 2001, 16:26 GMT


Re: Re: Re: KerNO Released
timagus  Account Info

The feature that allows returned expressions from asm programs is especially usefull. Several nostub programs return values but you need a shell for them to be of much use. Good job (and once i fanally liberate myself from kernal progs, I'll certanly use it. (I wish PCT was nostub...)

     5 November 2001, 21:27 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: KerNO Released
Kevin Kofler
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There is also a program called IPR by Cyril Pascal (Paxal) which does just that at http://sirryl.multimania.com .

     6 November 2001, 02:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: KerNO Released
Nitrocloud  Account Info
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BELIEVE ME... my first C program could have been called a virus, because it has unterminated strings... infinate loops, and other VERY bad errors. Now I program better. (Still can't do anything significant, just a little grey scale and some minor gaming.)

     8 November 2001, 01:13 GMT

Re: KerNO Released
Calan Account Info
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"Believe it or not, stuff is getting released nowadays, even with our archives down."

WHAT? Something was ACTUALLY RELEASED? WITHOUT TICALC? But, but, but, but HOW? Granted this is not only a great TI Calculator site, it is *THE* TI Calculator site. But believe it or not, I can easily imagine people still writing code even when the archives are down. :) I had to say something, I thought it was funny.

     7 November 2001, 22:02 GMT

HEEEELLLLP, (I feel left out) :(
t d  Account Info
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-->>I can't get doorsos working.
I need v101.9xu(not *.rom or v2.05.9xu) of ti92+.
email me. stdnum1@yahoo.com
Pleeeeeaaassssseeeeeeeeee

     28 November 2001, 18:08 GMT

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